Re: [OpenAFS] Current OpenAFS Backup Recommendations

2010-01-04 Thread Dan Pritts
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 11:41:34AM +0100, Holger Rauch wrote: Thanks for elaborating. What would then be the best solution to write backuppc4afs's backup store to tape (taking into account that I have a HP StorageWorks 1/8 G2 autoloader equipped with two Ultrium 920/960 tape drives for LTO3

Re: [OpenAFS] Current OpenAFS Backup Recommendations

2009-12-28 Thread Holger Rauch
Hi Dan! Thanks a lot for your reply. On Mon, 28 Dec 2009, Dan Pritts wrote: [...] It is disk-based, no tape support at all. You could use a standard tape backup program to back up backuppc4afs's backup store. You may see mention elsewhere that using tape to backup a backuppc data store

Re: [OpenAFS] Current OpenAFS Backup Recommendations

2009-12-27 Thread Dan Pritts
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 08:41:17PM +0100, Holger Rauch wrote: What's the current status regarding OpenAFS backup solutions? I don't think anyone else has mentioned backuppc4afs. We've been running it for a bit now in parallel to our older system and it seems to work reasonably well. It is

Re: [OpenAFS] Current OpenAFS Backup Recommendations

2009-12-18 Thread Holger Rauch
Hi Simon, thanks a lot for your recommendation. Any estimates on the costs of Teradactyl's software? Would it be an alternative to just use the entire contents of either the underlying ext3 filesystem and backup that via Bacula or create snapshots of the LVs on which the /vicep* partitions

Re: [OpenAFS] Current OpenAFS Backup Recommendations

2009-12-18 Thread Harald Barth
What open source commercial backup solutions are a) aware of OpenAFS b) can handle autoloaders well I don't think that solution exists out of the box. The only commercial product I know of is from teradactyl and that fell for our needs because of prize and tape library support (I don't

Re: [OpenAFS] Current OpenAFS Backup Recommendations

2009-12-18 Thread Anders Magnusson
Harald Barth wrote: What open source commercial backup solutions are a) aware of OpenAFS b) can handle autoloaders well I don't think that solution exists out of the box. The only commercial product I know of is from teradactyl and that fell for our needs because of prize and tape

Re: [OpenAFS] Current OpenAFS Backup Recommendations

2009-12-18 Thread Harald Barth
Any estimates on the costs of Teradactyl's software? Much more ( double) than TSM last time I bothered to ask. But that was for _our_ setting. Prices for any backup systems can be based on any measure that some pointed hair boss has figured out (petabytes, tapeslots, cores, clients, moonphases,

Re: [OpenAFS] Current OpenAFS Backup Recommendations

2009-12-18 Thread Holger Rauch
Hi Harald, thanks for your feedback (also to everyone else who's responded so far). On Fri, 18 Dec 2009, Harald Barth wrote: [...] The only commercial product I know of is from teradactyl and that fell for our needs because of prize and tape library support (I don't know if they can share

Re: [OpenAFS] Current OpenAFS Backup Recommendations

2009-12-18 Thread Russ Allbery
Harald Barth h...@kth.se writes: The only commercial product I know of is from teradactyl and that fell for our needs because of prize and tape library support (I don't know if they can share IBM tape libraries with TSM nowadays, their supported libraries web page is thin). So we did our own

Re: [OpenAFS] Current OpenAFS Backup Recommendations

2009-12-18 Thread Kristen J. Webb
Harald Barth wrote: Any estimates on the costs of Teradactyl's software? Much more ( double) than TSM last time I bothered to ask. But that was for _our_ setting. Prices for any backup systems can be based on any measure that some pointed hair boss has figured out (petabytes, tapeslots,

Re: [OpenAFS] Current OpenAFS Backup Recommendations

2009-12-18 Thread Mattias Pantzare
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 10:34, Anders Magnusson ra...@ltu.se wrote: Harald Barth wrote: What open source commercial backup solutions are a) aware of OpenAFS b) can handle autoloaders well I don't think that solution exists out of the box. The only commercial product I know of is from

[OpenAFS] Current OpenAFS Backup Recommendations

2009-12-17 Thread Holger Rauch
Hi, I've got a HP StorageWorks auto loader with LTO3 tape drives connected to a HP ProLiant server running Debian Lenny with OpenAFS 1.4.11 (obtained via backports.org). What open source commercial backup solutions are a) aware of OpenAFS b) can handle autoloaders well ? I should perhaps

Re: [OpenAFS] Current OpenAFS Backup Recommendations

2009-12-17 Thread Simon Wilkinson
On 17 Dec 2009, at 19:41, Holger Rauch wrote: a) aware of OpenAFS b) can handle autoloaders well We're using Teradactyl's TiBS with an autoloader for our production backup service. I should perhaps clarify that by solutions I don't mean just wrapper scripts around tar/rsync, etc. but