Re: [OpenAFS] failover 1.6.0pre2 dafs

2011-02-27 Thread Derrick Brashear
2011/2/27 Gémes Géza g...@kzsdabas.hu: Hi, I plan to run my two (1.6.0) openafs servers (both are vl pt vol and dafs servers) in a failover configuration (the failover supervised by a redhat-cluster installation). The data is on a SAN which is attached to both servers. I plan to define a

Re: [OpenAFS] failover 1.6.0pre2 dafs

2011-02-27 Thread Gémes Géza
2011-02-27 20:15 keltezéssel, Derrick Brashear írta: 2011/2/27 Gémes Géza g...@kzsdabas.hu: Hi, I plan to run my two (1.6.0) openafs servers (both are vl pt vol and dafs servers) in a failover configuration (the failover supervised by a redhat-cluster installation). The data is on a SAN

Re: [OpenAFS] Openafs failover

2009-09-02 Thread Tom Keiser
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Harald Barthh...@kth.se wrote: In the case of server1 would went down server2: 1. would mount vicepa ... 2. would take over address 10.0.0.1 3. finally would restart the vlserver volserver and fs processes. You have missed what to do with the outstanding

Re: [OpenAFS] Openafs failover

2009-09-02 Thread Matt W. Benjamin
Hi Tom, I recall mentioning in Ohio, XCB doesn't have a private view of client callback state. I'm unsure it's a good tradeoff to serialize XCB messages for reliable delivery. You would be changing the goal from consistency is preserved to clients don't need to update their cache on

Re: [OpenAFS] Openafs failover

2009-06-14 Thread Harald Barth
The net result is 2-node active/passive failover clusters can be equivalent to standalone fileservers in terms of cache coherence (assuming proper Net{Info,Restrict} and rxbind configuration). I'm sorry, I just see the situation with X clients that have cached data with registered callbacks.

[OpenAFS] Openafs failover

2009-06-08 Thread Gémes Géza
Hi, In principle my question is about the feasibility of the following setup: There is a SAN (Coraid), all the partitions vicepa, vicepb, ... are in fact lvm volumes on top of it. Two boxes are connected to it, the boxes run a xenified debian distro. On each of them there is one xen guest being

Re: [OpenAFS] Openafs failover

2009-06-08 Thread Harald Barth
In the case of server1 would went down server2: 1. would mount vicepa ... 2. would take over address 10.0.0.1 3. finally would restart the vlserver volserver and fs processes. You have missed what to do with the outstanding callbacks that server1 is holding (in memory). When server1 does

[OpenAFS] Re: Openafs Failover Problem

2007-01-03 Thread Stefan Heimers
Chris Huebsch wrote: On Thu, 7 Dec 2006, Stefan Heimers wrote: But if I don't do a graceful shutdown, but rather turn off the power on one machine, the afs server won't work on the other. Filesystems are mounted, processes are started, but the clients cannot access afs directories. Are

[OpenAFS] Openafs Failover Problem

2006-12-12 Thread Stefan Heimers
I am experiencing a problem with our failover setup. We have two Openafs servers which share external storage. I can mount /vicep* and /var/lib/openafs on one machine and start the server processes. Works fine. Both machines have a common IP address which is activated on the main machine and

Re: [OpenAFS] Openafs Failover Problem

2006-12-12 Thread Chris Huebsch
On Thu, 7 Dec 2006, Stefan Heimers wrote: But if I don't do a graceful shutdown, but rather turn off the power on one machine, the afs server won't work on the other. Filesystems are mounted, processes are started, but the clients cannot access afs directories. Are you sure, that your

Re: [OpenAFS] Failover

2005-12-31 Thread ed
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 23:35:42 +0100 Horst Birthelmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's why the replication has to be triggered by the administrator. Can this not be automated via cron for all volumes every 5min for example? -- Regards, Ed http://www.usenix.org.uk - http://irc.is-cool.net

Re: [OpenAFS] Failover

2005-12-31 Thread Horst Birthelmer
On Dec 31, 2005, at 4:12 PM, ed wrote: On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 23:35:42 +0100 Horst Birthelmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's why the replication has to be triggered by the administrator. Can this not be automated via cron for all volumes every 5min for example? It can, of course, but that's

Re: [OpenAFS] Failover

2005-12-31 Thread ed
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 16:43:38 +0100 Horst Birthelmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 31, 2005, at 4:12 PM, ed wrote: Can this not be automated via cron for all volumes every 5min for example? It can, of course, but that's still no failover, since you have just one RW copy. If that

Re: [OpenAFS] Failover

2005-12-31 Thread Horst Birthelmer
On Dec 31, 2005, at 4:53 PM, ed wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 16:43:38 +0100 Horst Birthelmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 31, 2005, at 4:12 PM, ed wrote: Can this not be automated via cron for all volumes every 5min for example? It can, of course, but that's still no failover, since you

Re: [OpenAFS] Failover

2005-12-31 Thread ed
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 17:19:35 +0100 Horst Birthelmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Replication has nothing to do with AFS backups and volume database backup is an entirely separate topic. I'm not sure where exactly the confusion is... ;-) Those are three completely different things. If you can

Re: [OpenAFS] Failover

2005-12-31 Thread Jeffrey Hutzelman
On Saturday, December 31, 2005 12:36:40 AM -0600 Troy Benjegerdes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The advantage of AFS over a single system is you can have as many incoming MTA machines, and imap servers as you want. Yes, you can. But as the volume gets large, especially for any given mailbox,

Re: [OpenAFS] Failover

2005-12-31 Thread Troy Benjegerdes
On Sat, Dec 31, 2005 at 08:03:40PM -0500, Jeffrey Hutzelman wrote: On Saturday, December 31, 2005 12:36:40 AM -0600 Troy Benjegerdes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The advantage of AFS over a single system is you can have as many incoming MTA machines, and imap servers as you want. Yes,

Re: [OpenAFS] Failover

2005-12-31 Thread Dave Broudy
Jeffrey Hutzelman wrote: I very much recommend against trying to store mail in AFS. There is no gain to be had in reliability, scalability, or performance, and there are any number of potential problems. If what you're trying to accomplish is to get those features in a distributed mail

Re: [OpenAFS] Failover

2005-12-30 Thread Troy Benjegerdes
On Wed, Dec 28, 2005 at 11:12:53AM -0500, Derek Atkins wrote: Pierre Ancelot [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ok, then, what i am looking for is a distributed filesystem (free of charge and license (GNU or so)) replication over all nodes since i am preparing a virtual mail server using

Re: [OpenAFS] Failover

2005-12-29 Thread Robert Banz
Stephan Wiesand wrote: On Wed, 28 Dec 2005, Derek Atkins wrote: You don't want AFS for an imap or maildir backend. You should just Since it's void of any locks, what would be wrong with maildir in AFS? There's a bunch of things wrong with stock maildir; I've done a lot of work with it.

Re: [OpenAFS] Failover

2005-12-28 Thread Andrew Bacchi
AFS does not provide a method for failover, in the strictest meaning of the word. A replicated volume residing on a different file server than the original volume, would be the closest to what I think you mean. Although replicating every volume in a cell is not recommended. So I doubt that

Re: [OpenAFS] Failover

2005-12-28 Thread Pierre Ancelot
Ok, then, what i am looking for is a distributed filesystem (free of charge and license (GNU or so)) replication over all nodes since i am preparing a virtual mail server using keepalived and maildir system. The thing is users use imap and imaps in a load balanced environnement so every node

Re: [OpenAFS] Failover

2005-12-28 Thread Derek Atkins
Pierre Ancelot [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ok, then, what i am looking for is a distributed filesystem (free of charge and license (GNU or so)) replication over all nodes since i am preparing a virtual mail server using keepalived and maildir system. The thing is users use imap and imaps in a

Re: [OpenAFS] Failover

2005-12-28 Thread Pierre Ancelot
Well, thanks for the link to drdb, it's certainly what i'll use, this or lustre. About the shared raid drive, if the server that runs it dies, i' out anyways, so this is not failover. Thanks. Pierre. PS: Can you please stop to send to me cc to the mailing list ? it's really annoying. Thanks.

Re: [OpenAFS] Failover

2005-12-28 Thread Stephan Wiesand
On Wed, 28 Dec 2005, Derek Atkins wrote: You don't want AFS for an imap or maildir backend. You should just Since it's void of any locks, what would be wrong with maildir in AFS? use a RAID system, or perhaps DRBD (www.drbd.org) if you really want network redundancy. But if it were me I'd

Re: [OpenAFS] Failover

2005-12-28 Thread Russ Allbery
Stephan Wiesand [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 28 Dec 2005, Derek Atkins wrote: You don't want AFS for an imap or maildir backend. You should just Since it's void of any locks, what would be wrong with maildir in AFS? AFS is optimized for read (or pessimized for write, depending on which

[OpenAFS] Failover

2005-12-27 Thread Pierre Ancelot
Hi everyone :) I wanted to know how afs is reacting in the case of a failover cluster... i use keepalived on linux and i wish to have a failover distributed filesystem, like what happens if a replica dies or if the first server dies ? ... And when it will get back up, what should i know about

Re: [OpenAFS] Failover

2005-12-27 Thread Horst Birthelmer
On Dec 27, 2005, at 8:15 PM, Pierre Ancelot wrote: Hi everyone :) I wanted to know how afs is reacting in the case of a failover cluster... i use keepalived on linux and i wish to have a failover distributed filesystem, like what happens if a replica dies or if the first server dies ? ... And