RE: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again. Numbers

2007-12-04 Thread Jerry Normandin
: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again. Numbers On Friday 30 November 2007 02:52:06 pm Jerry Normandin wrote: AFS on EXT3? No there are Metadata issues. EXT3 was intended for this. I inherited a mess here that I am fixing. My predecessor built is using Ext3 for the /vicepa filesystems. It takes

Re: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again.

2007-12-04 Thread Steve Simmons
On Dec 3, 2007, at 9:53 AM, John Lockard wrote: I'm curious about those using ext3... Are you running ext3 with or without journaling? With. ___ OpenAFS-info mailing list OpenAFS-info@openafs.org

Re: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again.

2007-12-04 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Montag, 3. Dezember 2007 schrieb ext John Lockard: I'm curious about those using ext3...  Are you running ext3 with or without journaling? w/o journaling it's called ext2 :-) Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49

Re: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again.

2007-12-03 Thread John Lockard
@openafs.org Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again. On Nov 30, 2007, at 2:17 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: Jerry Normandin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AFS on EXT3? No there are Metadata issues. EXT3 was intended for this. I inherited a mess here that I am fixing. My

Re: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again.

2007-12-03 Thread Derrick Brashear
To: openafs-info@openafs.org Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again. On Nov 30, 2007, at 2:17 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: Jerry Normandin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AFS on EXT3? No there are Metadata issues. EXT3 was intended for this. I inherited a mess here that I

RE: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again.

2007-12-03 Thread Jerry Normandin
] On Behalf Of John Lockard Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 9:54 AM To: openafs-info@openafs.org Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again. I'm curious about those using ext3... Are you running ext3 with or without journaling? -John On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 06:59:29PM -0800, Jerry

RE: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again.

2007-12-03 Thread Jerry Normandin
AM To: Jerry Normandin Cc: John Lockard; openafs-info@openafs.org Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again. the spec file is fixed in CVS and will be in thenext version also. On Dec 3, 2007 10:02 AM, Jerry Normandin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: with. I was asked to upgrade to 1.4.5

Re: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again.

2007-12-03 Thread Derrick Brashear
On Dec 3, 2007 1:52 PM, Jerry Normandin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone tried to build the openafs userspace code on Redhat ver 3? the rpm build scripts fail. This is sort of news, in the sense that the RPMs on the web site were built by me on RHEL3. Get the RHEL3 srpm from the web

Re: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again.

2007-12-03 Thread Derrick Brashear
] *On Behalf Of *Derrick Brashear *Sent:* Monday, December 03, 2007 1:54 PM *To:* openafs-info@openafs.org *Subject:* Re: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again. On Dec 3, 2007 1:52 PM, Jerry Normandin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone tried to build the openafs userspace code on Redhat

Re: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again.

2007-12-03 Thread Derrick Brashear
Redirected to the list. On Dec 3, 2007 2:34 PM, Jerry Normandin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm my beginning of my email should of read OK I am running: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SOURCES]# more /etc/issue Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 3 (Taroon Update 8) Kernel \r on an \m I'm not

RE: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again.

2007-12-03 Thread Jerry Normandin
built openafs 1.4.5 on redhat enterprise 3 with? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derrick Brashear Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 2:32 PM To: OpenAFS-Info Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again. Keep it on the list. Anyway, this is really

Re: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again.

2007-12-03 Thread Derrick Brashear
On Dec 3, 2007 2:50 PM, Jerry Normandin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ah.. sorry about that I intended to post to the group. I thought I hit reply-all. Here's where I got the SRPM: http://www.openafs.org/dl/openafs/1.4.5/rhel3/SRPMS/openafs-1.4.5-rhel3.1.src.rpm openafs-buildall.sh

RE: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again.

2007-12-03 Thread Jerry Normandin
It appears that there's a problem with the openafs.spec file From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derrick Brashear Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 2:55 PM To: OpenAFS-Info Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again. On Dec 3, 2007 2:50 PM, Jerry

RE: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again.

2007-12-03 Thread Jerry Normandin
systems on Linux, again. On Dec 3, 2007 2:50 PM, Jerry Normandin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ah.. sorry about that I intended to post to the group. I thought I hit reply-all. Here's where I got the SRPM: http://www.openafs.org/dl/openafs/1.4.5/rhel3/SRPMS/openafs-1.4.5-rhel3. 1.src.rpm

Re: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again. Numbers

2007-12-03 Thread Martin Ginkel
On Friday 30 November 2007 02:52:06 pm Jerry Normandin wrote: AFS on EXT3? No there are Metadata issues. EXT3 was intended for this. I inherited a mess here that I am fixing. My predecessor built is using Ext3 for the /vicepa filesystems. It takes a hell of a long time to create, Delete,

Re: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again.

2007-11-30 Thread Jeffrey Altman
Jerry Normandin wrote: AFS on EXT3? No there are Metadata issues. EXT3 was intended for this. I inherited a mess here that I am fixing. My predecessor built is using Ext3 for the /vicepa filesystems. It takes a hell of a long time to create, Delete, or rename files. I tested with

Re: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again.

2007-11-30 Thread Dj Merrill
Russ Allbery wrote: Jerry Normandin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AFS on EXT3? No there are Metadata issues. EXT3 was intended for this. I inherited a mess here that I am fixing. My predecessor built is using Ext3 for the /vicepa filesystems. It takes a hell of a long time to create,

Re: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again.

2007-11-30 Thread Steve Devine
Mike Garrison wrote: On Nov 30, 2007, at 2:17 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: Jerry Normandin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AFS on EXT3? No there are Metadata issues. EXT3 was intended for this. I inherited a mess here that I am fixing. My predecessor built is using Ext3 for the /vicepa

RE: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again.

2007-11-30 Thread Jerry Normandin
. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Mike Garrison Sent: Fri 11/30/2007 4:41 PM To: openafs-info@openafs.org Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again. On Nov 30, 2007, at 2:17 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: Jerry Normandin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AFS on EXT3

RE: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again.

2007-11-30 Thread Jerry Normandin
] File systems on Linux, again. Mike Garrison wrote: On Nov 30, 2007, at 2:17 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: Jerry Normandin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AFS on EXT3? No there are Metadata issues. EXT3 was intended for this. I inherited a mess here that I am fixing. My predecessor built is using

Re: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again.

2007-11-30 Thread chas williams - CONTRACTOR
no i dont think rx locking is the problem. the rx locking is actually pretty good. i had tracked this down with fstrace at one point but i seem to have lost the trace at the moment. i will dig around and see if i can find it. In message [EMAIL PROTECTED],Matt Benjamin writes: -BEGIN PGP

Re: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again.

2007-11-30 Thread Matt Benjamin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hey, Chas, Sorry to bug. I've been looking at this, tangentially, because I've been working with bypassing dcache/memcache, writing direct into page cache. Pretty far along on that side of things. Is rx locking so coarse that in general only one

Re: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again.

2007-11-30 Thread chas williams - CONTRACTOR
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] ia.net,Jerry Normandin writes: write performance is actually impressive. file creation and deletion are very slow on afs. because writing is easier than reading. the afs cache manager can group the outgoing writes together and send them in a single message. while

Re: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again.

2007-11-30 Thread Russ Allbery
Jerry Normandin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AFS on EXT3? No there are Metadata issues. EXT3 was intended for this. I inherited a mess here that I am fixing. My predecessor built is using Ext3 for the /vicepa filesystems. It takes a hell of a long time to create, Delete, or rename files.

Re: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again.

2007-11-30 Thread Matt Benjamin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 woot, chas :) chas williams - CONTRACTOR wrote: no i dont think rx locking is the problem. the rx locking is actually pretty good. i had tracked this down with fstrace at one point but i seem to have lost the trace at the moment. i will dig

RE: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again.

2007-11-30 Thread Stephen Joyce
, November 29, 2007 2:36 PM To: openafs-info@openafs.org Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again. Smith, Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After the recent thread openafs upgrade from 1.4.1 to 1.5.7, and a review of a thread[1] from July, I'm wondering if there is a definitive recommendation

RE: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again.

2007-11-30 Thread Jerry Normandin
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Russ Allbery Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:36 PM To: openafs-info@openafs.org Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again. Smith, Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After the recent thread openafs upgrade from 1.4.1

Re: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again.

2007-11-30 Thread Mike Garrison
On Nov 30, 2007, at 2:17 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: Jerry Normandin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AFS on EXT3? No there are Metadata issues. EXT3 was intended for this. I inherited a mess here that I am fixing. My predecessor built is using Ext3 for the /vicepa filesystems. It takes a hell

[OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again.

2007-11-29 Thread Smith, Matt
After the recent thread openafs upgrade from 1.4.1 to 1.5.7, and a review of a thread[1] from July, I'm wondering if there is a definitive recommendation for which file system to use on Linux AFS file servers. Ext3, XFS, JFS, something else? Thanks all, -Matt [1]

Re: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again.

2007-11-29 Thread Russ Allbery
Smith, Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After the recent thread openafs upgrade from 1.4.1 to 1.5.7, and a review of a thread[1] from July, I'm wondering if there is a definitive recommendation for which file system to use on Linux AFS file servers. Ext3, XFS, JFS, something else? It shouldn't

Re: [OpenAFS] File systems on Linux, again.

2007-11-29 Thread Hartmut Reuter
Smith, Matt wrote: After the recent thread openafs upgrade from 1.4.1 to 1.5.7, and a review of a thread[1] from July, I'm wondering if there is a definitive recommendation for which file system to use on Linux AFS file servers. Ext3, XFS, JFS, something else? Thanks all, -Matt [1]