Re: [OpenAFS] Funding the formation of an OpenAFS Foundation (fwd)

2012-09-27 Thread stephen
Hi, It is with surprise, humor, and alarm that I've been reading the various messages within this thread. I have to admit that I have been frustrated at various times in the past at the seemingly-glacial pace of releases and new features. But I'm also alternatively amazed at the quality of O

Re: [OpenAFS] Funding the formation of an OpenAFS Foundation (fwd)

2012-09-27 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 3:06 PM, wrote: > head at the moment), maybe we should think about this what about > asking IBM about their current feelings? It's not clear below whether IBM's > professed desire for backwards compatibility is 12-years old, or current. > It sounded like active discus

Re: [OpenAFS] Funding the formation of an OpenAFS Foundation (fwd)

2012-09-27 Thread Jeffrey Altman
On 9/27/2012 3:06 PM, step...@physics.unc.edu wrote: > The point of this email is that I hope the Elders and Gatekeepers *do* > know that they're appreciated, even if it's not voiced often. The fact > that OpenAFS is still "alive and kickin'" is proof to your skill and > tenacity. Well done. Thank

Re: [OpenAFS] Funding the formation of an OpenAFS Foundation (fwd)

2012-09-27 Thread Troy Benjegerdes
> Backward compatibility is a requirement for the entire community. The > only criteria that is specific to IBM is that we cannot turn off older > RPCs for which there already are replacements and we cannot completely > get rid of rxkad or kaserver from the code base. There are also some > implic

Re: [OpenAFS] Funding the formation of an OpenAFS Foundation (fwd)

2012-09-27 Thread Russ Allbery
Troy Benjegerdes writes: >> Backward compatibility is a requirement for the entire community. The >> only criteria that is specific to IBM is that we cannot turn off older >> RPCs for which there already are replacements and we cannot completely >> get rid of rxkad or kaserver from the code base

Re: [OpenAFS] Funding the formation of an OpenAFS Foundation (fwd)

2012-09-27 Thread Derrick Brashear
>> The primary impediment to moving forward is a lack of community funded >> development resources. There are very few tasks left which can be >> accomplished in just a week or two and the on-going maintenance expenses >> are substantial. > > And we are in a circular dependency.. we can't move for