[OpenAFS] Heimdal & OpenAFS 1.7.4: Difficult user experience

2012-01-26 Thread John Tang Boyland
As readers to this list know; I teach a class with 40-50 students every semester which uses AFS and I have 30+ people trying to install OpenAFS on their laptops. This exposes many usability problems with the installation process. I'm pleased with the quality of the software once it starts working

Re: [OpenAFS] Heimdal & OpenAFS 1.7.4: Difficult user experience

2012-01-26 Thread Dave Botsch
I don't know if there's a way to make a "meta-msi" that would wrap up and install all the sub packages. But, you can certainly use transforms to customize each of the MSIs with the default options needed, including a correct krb5.conf, so that users just double click, install, reboot, done. On Th

Re: [OpenAFS] Heimdal & OpenAFS 1.7.4: Difficult user experience

2012-01-26 Thread Jeffrey Altman
On 1/26/2012 2:37 PM, Dave Botsch wrote: > I don't know if there's a way to make a "meta-msi" that would wrap up > and install all the sub packages. > > But, you can certainly use transforms to customize each of the MSIs with > the default options needed, including a correct krb5.conf, so that use

Re: [OpenAFS] Heimdal & OpenAFS 1.7.4: Difficult user experience

2012-01-26 Thread Lars Schimmer
Hi! First: We did make a wiki page with all the needed software (links), screenshots, values to enter, path,... for our users. In case they want the software, we give them th elink to the wiki page and 99% of users could do it as we has written it down. But we do use OpenAFS 1.7.4 and still MI

Re: [OpenAFS] Heimdal & OpenAFS 1.7.4: Difficult user experience

2012-01-27 Thread Harald Barth
> (2) Instead, could we have the Heimdal installer default > "allow_weak_crypto = true" ? Strange, didn't Heimdals original code include special treatment of ticket enctypes for AFS tokens so that you don't need this to get AFS tokens (but you would need it for for example telnet). Has this c

Re: [OpenAFS] Heimdal & OpenAFS 1.7.4: Difficult user experience

2012-01-27 Thread Brandon Allbery
> Strange, didn't Heimdals original code include special treatment of > ticket enctypes for AFS tokens so that you don't need this to get AFS > tokens (but you would need it for for example telnet). Has this > changed or is this different in the Windows version? Only for its own afslog, not for ex

Re: [OpenAFS] Heimdal & OpenAFS 1.7.4: Difficult user experience

2012-01-27 Thread Jeffrey Altman
On 1/27/2012 7:09 AM, Harald Barth wrote: > >> (2) Instead, could we have the Heimdal installer default >> "allow_weak_crypto = true" ? > > Strange, didn't Heimdals original code include special treatment of > ticket enctypes for AFS tokens so that you don't need this to get AFS > tokens (but

Re: [OpenAFS] Heimdal & OpenAFS 1.7.4: Difficult user experience

2012-01-27 Thread Jeffrey Altman
On 1/26/2012 2:26 PM, John Tang Boyland wrote: > I had several students dutifully download OpenAFS 1.7.4 and Heimdal KfW > (as recommended) and then NetworkIdentityManager v2 (three separate > downloads and installs) only to have NIM say that it can't get AFS > tokens. Currently shipping versions

Re: [OpenAFS] Heimdal & OpenAFS 1.7.4: Difficult user experience

2012-01-27 Thread Arthur Prokosch
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 11:35:30AM -0500, Jeffrey Altman wrote: > You mean update > > http://wiki.openafs.org/AFSLore/WindowsEndUserQuickStartGuide/ > > and > > http://wiki.openafs.org/AFSLore/WindowsConfigurationReferenceGuide/ > > and > > http://wiki.openafs.org/AFSLore/WindowsTroubles

Re: [OpenAFS] Heimdal & OpenAFS 1.7.4: Difficult user experience

2012-01-27 Thread Jeffrey Altman
As far as I am aware those pages have not been updated in more than four years and Tommie is no longer participating in the community. If someone wants to adopt those pages, they should use their best judgement. Sent from my iPad On Jan 27, 2012, at 9:00 AM, Arthur Prokosch wrote: > On Fri,

Re: [OpenAFS] Heimdal & OpenAFS 1.7.4: Difficult user experience

2012-02-02 Thread Dvorkin, Asya
Hello, We have many users running Windows 7 64bit and 32bit. I would like to understand which OpenAFS and Kerberos versions are the stables ones and should be installed? I've installed Heimdal 1.5 and OpenAFS 1.7.4, but having many issues with getting it to work. I've made the changes ("allo