[OpenAFS] PAG issues with ssh

2005-09-21 Thread slushpupie
Im having some issues with PAG's and ssh on the systems I manage. They are all Linux (Debian Sarge) with OpenAFS 1.3.81. We must use the kerberos with SecurID, which puts many kinks in the way authentication works, but those have all been worked out. sshd only allows authentication via kerberos, a

Re: [OpenAFS] PAG issues with ssh

2005-09-21 Thread Douglas E. Engert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Im having some issues with PAG's and ssh on the systems I manage. They are all Linux (Debian Sarge) with OpenAFS 1.3.81. We must use the kerberos with SecurID, which puts many kinks in the way authentication works, but those have all been worked out. sshd only allows

Re: [OpenAFS] PAG issues with ssh

2005-09-21 Thread slushpupie
On 9/21/05, Douglas E. Engert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another solution is to use PAM to get the PAG and token. See other > posts on this list on how this can be done, for both gssapi and > when ssh calls kerberos. Unfortunately we cant do that with our version of kerberos and ssh. Also, I sh

Re: [OpenAFS] PAG issues with ssh

2005-09-21 Thread Jim Rees
It seems the most universal and safe way to deal with it would be to have some utility to drop the PAG, if that is at all possible. Why not acquire a new pag with no tokens when you start a service? That's what I do. ___ OpenAFS-info mailing list

Re: [OpenAFS] PAG issues with ssh

2005-09-21 Thread Russ Allbery
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > When sshd starts up from boot time, it has no PAG, so when aklog runs > the user gets tokens for the whole system. Whlie this is not the ideal > case, it is sufficent for most things at this time. > Sometimes, we need to restart sshd (config changes, or whatever). If t

Re: [OpenAFS] PAG issues with ssh

2005-09-21 Thread Russ Allbery
Jim Rees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Why not acquire a new pag with no tokens when you start a service? > That's what I do. That's what I do too, but the PAG is still inherited by all processes started by that service. So, in the case of cron, if you have users who obtain AFS tokens in cron jo

Re: [OpenAFS] PAG issues with ssh

2005-09-21 Thread slushpupie
On 9/21/05, Jim Rees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It seems the most > universal and safe way to deal with it would be to have some utility > to drop the PAG, if that is at all possible. > > Why not acquire a new pag with no tokens when you start a service? That's > what I do. Because as soo

Re: [OpenAFS] PAG issues with ssh

2005-09-22 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 9:24 AM -0500 9/21/05, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The problem is this: When sshd starts up from boot time, it has no PAG, so when aklog runs the user gets tokens for the whole system. Whlie this is not the ideal case, it is sufficent for most things at this time. Sometimes, we need to resta