Re: [OpenAFS] Re: [OpenAFS-devel] An open letter from the OpenAFS Council of Elders

2008-05-19 Thread Todd T. Fries
Penned by Troy Benjegerdes on 20080508 16:11.40, we have: [..] | Finally, from a developer point of view, I believe it is quite important | that the first project of the new foundation be to migrate from the | existing CVS source code repository to a distributed open-source based | version control

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: [OpenAFS-devel] An open letter from the OpenAFS Council of Elders

2008-05-13 Thread Steve Simmons
On May 13, 2008, at 9:31 AM, Jeffrey Altman wrote: Steve Simmons wrote: We're a state-funded institution as well, so 501c(3) for OpenAFS doesn't mean that much to us. But it can make a big, big difference for corporations or individuals donating funds or equipment. If I had enough bucks

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: [OpenAFS-devel] An open letter from the OpenAFS Council of Elders

2008-05-13 Thread Jeffrey Altman
Steve Simmons wrote: We're a state-funded institution as well, so 501c(3) for OpenAFS doesn't mean that much to us. But it can make a big, big difference for corporations or individuals donating funds or equipment. If I had enough bucks in my pocket to pay for, say, the native windows client

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: [OpenAFS-devel] An open letter from the OpenAFS Council of Elders

2008-05-12 Thread Steve Simmons
On May 11, 2008, at 2:54 PM, Troy Benjegerdes wrote: I think the politics of funding a foundation might be better served by continuing the relatively closed-access CVS repo. I think the two issues are pretty much independent. ___ OpenAFS-info mailin

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: [OpenAFS-devel] An open letter from the OpenAFS Council of Elders

2008-05-12 Thread Marcus Watts
Steve Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ... > We're a state-funded institution as well, so 501c(3) for OpenAFS > doesn't mean that much to us. ... 501c3 doesn't mean anything directly to us. We're certainly not going to see a tax break. However, in the funny world of grants and donations, it

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: [OpenAFS-devel] An open letter from the OpenAFS Council of Elders

2008-05-12 Thread Steve Simmons
On May 11, 2008, at 1:37 PM, Rodney M. Dyer wrote: At 11:42 AM 5/11/2008, Esther Filderman wrote: As it's own 501c3 corporation OpenAFS would be able to accept donations without a third party, something that would probably make it easier -- and more comfortable -- for many sites to do. A

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: [OpenAFS-devel] An open letter from the OpenAFS Council of Elders

2008-05-11 Thread Jeffrey Altman
Troy Benjegerdes wrote: We don't need to re-invent a better source control system.. Bitkeeper, Git, darcs, monotone, mercurial have all already tried that. I would just like openafs to pick one and go with it. Troy: The OpenAFS gatekeepers use a set of development tools for managing DELTAs a

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: [OpenAFS-devel] An open letter from the OpenAFS Council of Elders

2008-05-11 Thread Matt Benjamin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Troy, Your wish is granted. Derrick is working on migration of the CVS repository to git. Matt Troy Benjegerdes wrote: | | We don't need to re-invent a better source control system.. Bitkeeper, | Git, darcs, monotone, mercurial have all already

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: [OpenAFS-devel] An open letter from the OpenAFS Council of Elders

2008-05-11 Thread Troy Benjegerdes
On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 11:58:53PM -0400, Dale Ghent wrote: > On May 8, 2008, at 5:11 PM, Troy Benjegerdes wrote: > > >Finally, from a developer point of view, I believe it is quite > >important > >that the first project of the new foundation be to migrate from the > >existing CVS source code re

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: [OpenAFS-devel] An open letter from the OpenAFS Council of Elders

2008-05-11 Thread Troy Benjegerdes
On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 11:46:00AM -0500, Todd T. Fries wrote: > Penned by Troy Benjegerdes on 20080508 16:11.40, we have: > [..] > | Finally, from a developer point of view, I believe it is quite important > | that the first project of the new foundation be to migrate from the > | existing CVS so

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: [OpenAFS-devel] An open letter from the OpenAFS Council of Elders

2008-05-11 Thread Jason Edgecombe
Rodney M. Dyer wrote: At 11:42 AM 5/11/2008, Esther Filderman wrote: There have been mechanisms in the past to directly fund OpenAFS; the AFS & Kerberos Best Practices Workshop raises money for OpenAFS, and there is a fund through Usenix, to take advantage of it being a 501c3. As it's own 501c3

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: [OpenAFS-devel] An open letter from the OpenAFS Council of Elders

2008-05-11 Thread Rodney M. Dyer
At 11:42 AM 5/11/2008, Esther Filderman wrote: There have been mechanisms in the past to directly fund OpenAFS; the AFS & Kerberos Best Practices Workshop raises money for OpenAFS, and there is a fund through Usenix, to take advantage of it being a 501c3. As it's own 501c3 corporation OpenAFS wo

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: [OpenAFS-devel] An open letter from the OpenAFS Council of Elders

2008-05-11 Thread Esther Filderman
On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Rodney M. Dyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Your "benefit back" is the continual improvement and debugging of OpenAFS. > You should have already contracted with either "Secure Endpoints" > http://www.secure-endpoints.com, or "Sine Nomine" > http://www.sinenomine.

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: [OpenAFS-devel] An open letter from the OpenAFS Council of Elders

2008-05-10 Thread Rodney M. Dyer
At 06:50 PM 5/9/2008, Brian Sebby wrote: I think it would be a great idea to have some sort of membership option in an OpenAFS non-profit organization. OpenAFS has been asking for donations, but unfortunately, Argonne and a number of other organizations (mostly government and academic) simply c

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: [OpenAFS-devel] An open letter from the OpenAFS Council of Elders

2008-05-09 Thread Brian Sebby
On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 04:11:40PM -0500, Troy Benjegerdes wrote: > Membership should be open to both individuals, as well as corporations > and organizations. I would be happy to individually pay between $5 and > $25 a year membership dues to support OpenAFS. I also think that anyone > contribut

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: [OpenAFS-devel] An open letter from the OpenAFS Council of Elders

2008-05-08 Thread Dale Ghent
On May 8, 2008, at 5:11 PM, Troy Benjegerdes wrote: Finally, from a developer point of view, I believe it is quite important that the first project of the new foundation be to migrate from the existing CVS source code repository to a distributed open-source based version control system. I be

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: [OpenAFS-devel] An open letter from the OpenAFS Council of Elders

2008-05-08 Thread Derrick Brashear
> > Finally, from a developer point of view, I believe it is quite important > that the first project of the new foundation be to migrate from the > existing CVS source code repository to a distributed open-source based > version control system. (This would mostly likely be either Git or > Mer

[OpenAFS] Re: [OpenAFS-devel] An open letter from the OpenAFS Council of Elders

2008-05-08 Thread Troy Benjegerdes
[snip] > To that end, the OpenAFS Council of Elders has proposed the incorporation > of a not-for-profit foundation to perform tasks necessary to sustain and > further the development of the OpenAFS product and user community. > > We would like your feedback on this proposal, and suggest commun