Re: [OpenAFS] Re: coreutils-6.11 released

2008-04-24 Thread Jim Meyering
Didi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> If by "unknown" you mean nameless, that's not what the patch does. >> Such a patch would not even have been considered. > > I agree that hiding this information in some cases might not be > optimal, but the main problem is that through this the 'groups' > comman

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: coreutils-6.11 released

2008-04-24 Thread Didi
> If by "unknown" you mean nameless, that's not what the patch does. > Such a patch would not even have been considered. I agree that hiding this information in some cases might not be optimal, but the main problem is that through this the 'groups' command becomes utterly useless and confused qu

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: coreutils-6.11 released

2008-04-24 Thread Jim Meyering
"Christopher D. Clausen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Jim Meyering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> Knowing that, I expect to revert that patch -- unless someone >>> can come up with a very good argument for the new behavior. >>> >>> Out of curiosity, how

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: coreutils-6.11 released

2008-04-24 Thread Jim Meyering
"Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > Putting on my sysadmin hat, I am somewhat baffled by this discussion. > Completely hiding unknown groups? If by "unknown" you mean nameless, that's not what the patch does. Such a patch would not even have been considered. ___

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: coreutils-6.11 released

2008-04-24 Thread Davor Ocelic
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 11:37:44 -0700 Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jim Meyering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > You can tell I don't use AFS and didn't do my homework. > > I wish you'd noticed and spoken up a month or so ago. > > Unfortunately, I only follow the announcement list. :

[OpenAFS] Re: coreutils-6.11 released

2008-04-24 Thread Jim Meyering
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jim Meyering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Coreutils version 6.11 has been released. This is a stable release. >> ** Improvements >> >> id and groups work around an AFS-related bug whereby those programs >> would print an invalid group number, when gi

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: coreutils-6.11 released

2008-04-21 Thread Adam Megacz
Didi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > the main problem is that through this the 'groups' > command becomes utterly useless and confused quite a lot of users. > $ groups > users id: cannot find name for group ID 1091323188 If you would like that numeric groupid to resolve to some alphanumeric group n

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: coreutils-6.11 released

2008-04-21 Thread Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
On Apr 21, 2008, at 4:23 , Didi wrote: If by "unknown" you mean nameless, that's not what the patch does. Such a patch would not even have been considered. I agree that hiding this information in some cases might not be optimal, but the main problem is that through this the 'groups' command

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: coreutils-6.11 released

2008-04-20 Thread Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
On Apr 20, 2008, at 14:37 , Russ Allbery wrote: Jim Meyering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Knowing that, I expect to revert that patch -- unless someone can come up with a very good argument for the new behavior. Out of curiosity, how have you used it? Usually to tell whether two shells are i

[OpenAFS] Re: coreutils-6.11 released

2008-04-20 Thread Russ Allbery
Jim Meyering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You can tell I don't use AFS and didn't do my homework. > I wish you'd noticed and spoken up a month or so ago. Unfortunately, I only follow the announcement list. :/ > Knowing that, I expect to revert that patch -- unless someone > can come up with a

[OpenAFS] Re: coreutils-6.11 released

2008-04-19 Thread Russ Allbery
Jim Meyering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Coreutils version 6.11 has been released. This is a stable release. [...] > ** Improvements > > id and groups work around an AFS-related bug whereby those programs > would print an invalid group number, when given no user-name argument. I'm hoping