Re: [OpenAFS] Windows Client, quota and filemanager - no warning!

2006-01-12 Thread Jeffrey Altman
Lars Schimmer wrote: > I assumed the filemanagers are using the standard tools windows holds > for them. > I contacted the authors of totalcommander and asked for some help. It > seems they calculate the "disk full" message from available space :-( Ignoring the errors returned from a WriteFile()

Re: [OpenAFS] Windows Client, quota and filemanager - no warning!

2006-01-12 Thread Horst Birthelmer
On Jan 12, 2006, at 2:13 PM, Lars Schimmer wrote: ... I assumed the filemanagers are using the standard tools windows holds for them. I contacted the authors of totalcommander and asked for some help. It seems they calculate the "disk full" message from available space :-( Now that one's OK,

Re: [OpenAFS] Windows Client, quota and filemanager - no warning!

2006-01-12 Thread Lars Schimmer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Todd M. Lewis wrote: > > > Jeffrey Altman wrote: > >> I have tested the functionality on Windows 2003 SP1 and everything >> behaves exactly as it should. It doesn't matter whether I copy or >> move from the command line or whether I drag/drop 1000

Re: [OpenAFS] Windows Client, quota and filemanager - no warning!

2006-01-12 Thread Todd M. Lewis
Jeffrey Altman wrote: I have tested the functionality on Windows 2003 SP1 and everything behaves exactly as it should. It doesn't matter whether I copy or move from the command line or whether I drag/drop 1000 files or whether I copy/paste files. It all works just fine. So as far as I am co

Re: [OpenAFS] Windows Client, quota and filemanager - no warning!

2006-01-11 Thread ted creedon
Its 1.4.0 OAFS for win for sure. Sorry guys, I'm in the middle of shutting a major hospital computer room down. Only 300 servers. If you screw up, the MIS department bars you permanently from the facility. If I get time later on I'll work on it. AFS that is. Tedc Derrick J Brashear wrote:

Re: [OpenAFS] Windows Client, quota and filemanager - no warning!

2006-01-11 Thread Derrick J Brashear
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006, ted creedon wrote: I'm a tester and a user, not a debugger. I can live with the bug. Perhaps someone else with spare time can do this. That's not debugging. That's telling us how to reproduce your bug. If you can't or won't, calling yourself a tester is like me calling m

Re: [OpenAFS] Windows Client, quota and filemanager - no warning!

2006-01-11 Thread Jeffrey Altman
I have tested the functionality on Windows 2003 SP1 and everything behaves exactly as it should. It doesn't matter whether I copy or move from the command line or whether I drag/drop 1000 files or whether I copy/paste files. It all works just fine. So as far as I am concerned there is no bug un

Re: [OpenAFS] Windows Client, quota and filemanager - no warning!

2006-01-11 Thread ted creedon
I'm a tester and a user, not a debugger. I can live with the bug. Perhaps someone else with spare time can do this. Sorry. tedc Jeffrey Altman wrote: I copied in one Explorer window and Pasted to another. Jeffrey Altman ted creedon wrote: PS - Did you drag'drop or cut & paste? ted Jef

Re: [OpenAFS] Windows Client, quota and filemanager - no warning!

2006-01-11 Thread Jeffrey Altman
I copied in one Explorer window and Pasted to another. Jeffrey Altman ted creedon wrote: > PS - Did you drag'drop or cut & paste? > > ted > > Jeffrey Altman wrote: >> ted creedon wrote: >> >>> OpenAFS 1.4.0 on all servers and clients: >>> >>> With XP SP2 - with all hotfixes - error box state

Re: [OpenAFS] Windows Client, quota and filemanager - no warning!

2006-01-11 Thread Jeffrey Altman
Ted: Don't make assumptions based on your personal biases. Run the SysInternal File Monitor and you will have all the data you require. Jeffrey Altman ted creedon wrote: > Give me a detailed technical explanation and a link. I don't think they > care about AFS. > > ted > > Jeffrey Altman wr

Re: [OpenAFS] Windows Client, quota and filemanager - no warning!

2006-01-11 Thread ted creedon
PS - Did you drag'drop or cut & paste? ted Jeffrey Altman wrote: ted creedon wrote: OpenAFS 1.4.0 on all servers and clients: With XP SP2 - with all hotfixes - error box states "Error in copying file or folder->Cannot copy latexdebug" (file at which the volume filled). WIth Win 2003 SP1 -

Re: [OpenAFS] Windows Client, quota and filemanager - no warning!

2006-01-11 Thread ted creedon
Give me a detailed technical explanation and a link. I don't think they care about AFS. ted Jeffrey Altman wrote: ted creedon wrote: OpenAFS 1.4.0 on all servers and clients: With XP SP2 - with all hotfixes - error box states "Error in copying file or folder->Cannot copy latexdebug" (file

Re: [OpenAFS] Windows Client, quota and filemanager - no warning!

2006-01-11 Thread Jeffrey Altman
ted creedon wrote: > OpenAFS 1.4.0 on all servers and clients: > > With XP SP2 - with all hotfixes - error box states "Error in copying > file or folder->Cannot copy latexdebug" (file at which the volume filled). > > WIth Win 2003 SP1 - with all hotfixes- server the copy %complete box > just ran

Re: [OpenAFS] Windows Client, quota and filemanager - no warning!

2006-01-11 Thread ted creedon
OpenAFS 1.4.0 on all servers and clients: With XP SP2 - with all hotfixes - error box states "Error in copying file or folder->Cannot copy latexdebug" (file at which the volume filled). WIth Win 2003 SP1 - with all hotfixes- server the copy %complete box just ran for 5 min after the volume w

Re: [OpenAFS] Windows Client, quota and filemanager - no warning!

2006-01-11 Thread Jeffrey Altman
Todd and Ted: As a test I decided to copy a 1.9 GB file by drag drop using XP SP2 Explorer to my home volume on athena.mit.edu. The volume is not large enough to hold the file at all. File h:\ (537235559.1.1) contained in cell athena.mit.edu Owner jaltman (28180) Group 0 Volume status for vid =

Re: [OpenAFS] Windows Client, quota and filemanager - no warning!

2006-01-11 Thread ted creedon
ubject: Re: [OpenAFS] Windows Client, quota and filemanager - no warning! ted creedon wrote: If the windows AFS client listened to the message, at least there would be some kind of warning. tedc I don't know what this is supposed to mean? What

Re: [OpenAFS] Windows Client, quota and filemanager - no warning!

2006-01-11 Thread Todd M. Lewis
Jeffrey, Your explanation of the error flows through the various levels is informative, and I believe you are 100% right on the level you are talking about. From the user's perspective, however, all he sees is that he goes to move/copy a file with the standard tools the Desktop provides, and

Re: [OpenAFS] Windows Client, quota and filemanager - no warning!

2006-01-11 Thread Jeffrey Altman
;>> >>>> >>>> ted creedon wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Complaints from the server that are otherwise ignored. >>>>> >>>>> tedc >>>>> >>>>> -O

Re: [OpenAFS] Windows Client, quota and filemanager - no warning!

2006-01-11 Thread ted creedon
, quota and filemanager - no warning! ted creedon wrote: If the windows AFS client listened to the message, at least there would be some kind of warning. tedc I don't know what this is supposed to mean? What is the AFS Windows client supposed to listen to? Je

Re: [OpenAFS] Windows Client, quota and filemanager - no warning!

2006-01-11 Thread Jeffrey Altman
t; >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> On Behalf Of Jeffrey Altman >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 12:00 PM >>> To: ted creedon >>> Cc: OpenAFS-info@openafs.org >>>

Re: [OpenAFS] Windows Client, quota and filemanager - no warning!

2006-01-11 Thread ted creedon
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Altman Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 12:00 PM To: ted creedon Cc: OpenAFS-info@openafs.org Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] Windows Client, quota and filemanager - no warning! ted creedon wrote: If the windows AFS client

Re: [OpenAFS] Windows Client, quota and filemanager - no warning!

2006-01-10 Thread Jeffrey Altman
alf Of Jeffrey Altman > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 12:00 PM > To: ted creedon > Cc: OpenAFS-info@openafs.org > Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] Windows Client, quota and filemanager - no warning! > > ted creedon wrote: >> If the windows AFS client listened to the message, at

RE: [OpenAFS] Windows Client, quota and filemanager - no warning!

2006-01-10 Thread ted creedon
Complaints from the server that are otherwise ignored. tedc -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Altman Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 12:00 PM To: ted creedon Cc: OpenAFS-info@openafs.org Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] Windows Client, quota

Re: [OpenAFS] Windows Client, quota and filemanager - no warning!

2006-01-10 Thread Jeffrey Altman
ted creedon wrote: > If the windows AFS client listened to the message, at least there would > be some kind of warning. > > tedc I don't know what this is supposed to mean? What is the AFS Windows client supposed to listen to? Jeffrey Altman smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signatu

Re: [OpenAFS] Windows Client, quota and filemanager - no warning!

2006-01-10 Thread ted creedon
If the windows AFS client listened to the message, at least there would be some kind of warning. tedc Jeffrey Altman wrote: I should point out that the error that the OpenAFS 1.4.0 client reports in this case is STATUS_DISK_FULL ((NTSTATUS)0xC07FL). The reason the application is most like

Re: [OpenAFS] Windows Client, quota and filemanager - no warning!

2006-01-09 Thread Jeffrey Altman
I should point out that the error that the OpenAFS 1.4.0 client reports in this case is STATUS_DISK_FULL ((NTSTATUS)0xC07FL). The reason the application is most likely hanging is that it either does not check the error code on the write() operation or it does not believe it. If the application

Re: [OpenAFS] Windows Client, quota and filemanager - no warning!

2006-01-09 Thread ted creedon
That doen't help with the copy command. Perhaps MS should be contacted? This is an aggravating problem, particularly with large filesystems. If there was an RxError message from the server the client could pop up a message box eventualy. tedc Jeffrey Altman wrote: AFS is made up of volumes.

Re: [OpenAFS] Windows Client, quota and filemanager - no warning!

2006-01-09 Thread Jeffrey Altman
AFS is made up of volumes. CIFS file shares are contiguous disks. It is not possible to report to Windows a different quantity of disk space, free space, etc. on a per directory basis. JPSoftware is the only vendor I am aware of that has added OpenAFS support to their tools: 4NT and TakeCommand.

[OpenAFS] Windows Client, quota and filemanager - no warning!

2006-01-09 Thread Lars Schimmer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi! One annoying problem with the windows client: It seems not to pass the quota to the filemamagers. E.G.: user a tries to write a 1 GB file to a volume with 400 MB quota. User tries to use totalcommander or xplorer2. After it has copied 400 MB the s