Re: [OpenAFS] Kindle Editions of OpenAFS documentation

2011-06-08 Thread Chas Williams (CONTRACTOR)
i spent a little time this week trying to get the conversions to 'look good' using the latest git doc xml sources. the pdf's are there for comparison so if you see something odd you can check to see if it is a conversion artifact. someone other than me should examine these things closely to deter

Re: [OpenAFS] Kindle Editions of OpenAFS documentation

2011-06-02 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 13:51, Russ Allbery wrote: > always generated from other stuff.  The approach of using Docbook tools to > generate ePub is probably best for the manuals.  For the man pages, I bet I hope that tool has improved from when I last tried it. > http://search.cpan.org/dist/App-Po

Re: [OpenAFS] Kindle Editions of OpenAFS documentation

2011-06-02 Thread chas williams - CONTRACTOR
On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 10:51:48 -0700 Russ Allbery wrote: > Starting with the HTML docs is probably not a great idea, since those are > always generated from other stuff. The approach of using Docbook tools to > generate ePub is probably best for the manuals. For the man pages, I bet > someone has

Re: [OpenAFS] Kindle Editions of OpenAFS documentation

2011-06-02 Thread Russ Allbery
Brandon Allbery writes: > On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 13:40, David Boyes wrote: >> To do that, you have to use a non-Kindle format, and ePub (a superset >> of PDF) is the most widely accepted. > ePub is a subset of XHTML, not a superset of PDF (which is related to > PostScript). > (FWIW I've been p

Re: [OpenAFS] Kindle Editions of OpenAFS documentation

2011-06-02 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 13:40, David Boyes wrote: > To do that, you have to use a non-Kindle format, and ePub (a superset of PDF) > is the most widely accepted. ePub is a subset of XHTML, not a superset of PDF (which is related to PostScript). (FWIW I've been playing with translating the HTML do

Re: [OpenAFS] Kindle Editions of OpenAFS documentation

2011-06-02 Thread chas williams - CONTRACTOR
On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 00:21:40 -0500 David Boyes wrote: > The .epub looks great on my Nook, iPad, and iPhone. Thanks. That's way > useful. i had a little time this morning so i tried calibre instead of mobipocket reader to do the epub conversion. i also started with the git version of the usergu

RE: [OpenAFS] Kindle Editions of OpenAFS documentation

2011-06-01 Thread David Boyes
> so docbook provides an alpha/beta util for going from docbook to epub, > dbtoepub. i ran this on an older copy of the .xml of the useruide > to get an .epub and then converted with mobipocketreader to .prc. > > i copied this over to my kindle and it looks pretty good, fonts looke > right and th

Re: [OpenAFS] Kindle Editions of OpenAFS documentation

2011-06-01 Thread Chas Williams (CONTRACTOR)
after looking at it, the epub looks good. the conversion to mobi/proc lost a little bit with the command (fixed font) examples. it appears that the line breaks were ignord. the index doesnt work either. that might be broken in the original xml sources though. the toc does work and that makes m

Re: [OpenAFS] Kindle Editions of OpenAFS documentation

2011-06-01 Thread Patty O'Reilly
Nice! Works great. On 6/1/11 3:12 PM, Chas Williams (CONTRACTOR) wrote: In message<87oc2hmo4d@windlord.stanford.edu>,Russ Allbery writes: I'm not sure about the most recent, but older Kindles absolutely will not handle ePub. Also, if the goal is to get it into the Amazon store, I'm pretty

Re: [OpenAFS] Kindle Editions of OpenAFS documentation

2011-06-01 Thread Chas Williams (CONTRACTOR)
In message <87oc2hmo4d@windlord.stanford.edu>,Russ Allbery writes: >I'm not sure about the most recent, but older Kindles absolutely will not >handle ePub. Also, if the goal is to get it into the Amazon store, I'm >pretty sure it's going to have to be in MOBI format. they saw they dont. but.

Re: [OpenAFS] Kindle Editions of OpenAFS documentation

2011-06-01 Thread Derrick Brashear
> I'm not sure about the most recent, but older Kindles absolutely will not > handle ePub.  Also, if the goal is to get it into the Amazon store, I'm > pretty sure it's going to have to be in MOBI format. > > Like I said, though, it doesn't have to be an either/or thing.  Plus, I'll > point out tha

Re: [OpenAFS] Kindle Editions of OpenAFS documentation

2011-06-01 Thread David Boyes
> > How recent? I got mine literally a month ago, and I don't see any sign of > ePub support. Although maybe it just doesn't advertise; I suppose I > should actually try it. 6 months or so. They don't advertise it because guess what: you might buy books from somewhere else (horrors..) > >>

Re: [OpenAFS] Kindle Editions of OpenAFS documentation

2011-06-01 Thread Russ Allbery
David Boyes writes: > Yes, the point was for the files to work on all the readers, instead of > just the Kindle. To do that, you have to use a non-Kindle format, and > ePub (a superset of PDF) is the most widely accepted. That gets you the > kindle, Sony reader, Nook, iPad/iPhone, most Symbian de

Re: [OpenAFS] Kindle Editions of OpenAFS documentation

2011-06-01 Thread Patty O'Reilly
Go here to see what kindle supports. On 6/1/11 10:20 AM, Jake Thebault-Spieker wrote: I can confirm that the Kindle cannot read ePub, but .mobi files work just fine. the Adobe Editions ePub f

Re: [OpenAFS] Kindle Editions of OpenAFS documentation

2011-06-01 Thread David Boyes
Yes, the point was for the files to work on all the readers, instead of just the Kindle. To do that, you have to use a non-Kindle format, and ePub (a superset of PDF) is the most widely accepted. That gets you the kindle, Sony reader, Nook, iPad/iPhone, most Symbian devices, Android, and Blackbe

Re: [OpenAFS] Kindle Editions of OpenAFS documentation

2011-06-01 Thread Jeffrey Altman
On 6/1/2011 1:22 PM, Lee Damon wrote: Would the community find it useful if I were to create Amazon Kindle Editions of the OpenAFS Documentation? >> >>> Adobe ePub versions would be helpful. That way all the common electronic >>> readers can use them, rather than use a restricted format.

Re: [OpenAFS] Kindle Editions of OpenAFS documentation

2011-06-01 Thread Russ Allbery
Lee Damon writes: > Recent kindles can read PDF and ePub. How recent? I got mine literally a month ago, and I don't see any sign of ePub support. Although maybe it just doesn't advertise; I suppose I should actually try it. I know it supports PDF, but PDF is kind of useless for portable devic

Re: [OpenAFS] Kindle Editions of OpenAFS documentation

2011-06-01 Thread Lee Damon
>>> Would the community find it useful if I were to create Amazon Kindle >>> Editions of the OpenAFS Documentation? > >> Adobe ePub versions would be helpful. That way all the common electronic >> readers can use them, rather than use a restricted format. > > Except for the Kindle, which I don't

Re: [OpenAFS] Kindle Editions of OpenAFS documentation

2011-06-01 Thread Jake Thebault-Spieker
I can confirm that the Kindle cannot read ePub, but .mobi files work just fine. the Adobe Editions ePub files tend to be DRM'd, although also don't require DRM to be used. If we're talking about kindle-specific options, .mobi is probably best. If we're looking for an "ereader format" that'll span

Re: [OpenAFS] Kindle Editions of OpenAFS documentation

2011-06-01 Thread Russ Allbery
David Boyes writes: >> Would the community find it useful if I were to create Amazon Kindle >> Editions of the OpenAFS Documentation? > Adobe ePub versions would be helpful. That way all the common electronic > readers can use them, rather than use a restricted format. Except for the Kindle, wh

Re: [OpenAFS] Kindle Editions of OpenAFS documentation

2011-06-01 Thread Patty O'Reilly
The newer Kindles allow many more file types then the old ones. PDF is fine as long as it isn't drm protected. On 6/1/11 7:31 AM, David Boyes wrote: Would the community find it useful if I were to create Amazon Kindle Editions of the OpenAFS Documentation? Adobe ePub versions would be helpf

RE: [OpenAFS] Kindle Editions of OpenAFS documentation

2011-06-01 Thread David Boyes
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Re: [OpenAFS] Kindle Editions of OpenAFS documentation

2011-05-30 Thread Russ Allbery
Lee Eric writes: > Hey mates, where can download the OpenAFS PDF documents? I just find > the HTML multi-pages docs at the official website. This isn't the greatest answer, but I automatically build the PDF files for the Debian packages, so you can get them from: http://packages.debian.org/

RE: [OpenAFS] Kindle Editions of OpenAFS documentation

2011-05-30 Thread Roberto Gomezel
Hi Jeffrey, it sounds a really good idea to me :-) Thanks Roberto -Original Message- From: openafs-info-ad...@openafs.org [mailto:openafs-info-ad...@openafs.org] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Altman Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 3:55 PM To: OpenAFS Subject: [OpenAFS] Kindle Editions o

Re: [OpenAFS] Kindle Editions of OpenAFS documentation

2011-05-30 Thread Lee Eric
Hey mates, where can download the OpenAFS PDF documents? I just find the HTML multi-pages docs at the official website. Eric On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Erik Dalén wrote: > On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 15:54, Jeffrey Altman > wrote: >> Would the community find it useful if I were to create Ama

Re: [OpenAFS] Kindle Editions of OpenAFS documentation

2011-05-30 Thread Erik Dalén
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 15:54, Jeffrey Altman wrote: > Would the community find it useful if I were to create Amazon Kindle > Editions of the OpenAFS Documentation? I like the kindle reader, especially on mobile devices. So I would find it useful. But are they easy to update? Or do you essentiall