Re: [OpenBabel-Devel] Square planar stereo centers

2010-09-22 Thread Andrew Dalke
On Sep 22, 2010, at 2:21 PM, Craig A. James wrote: > Is there any harm in printing SP (and the other point groups) by default? > Are we worried that it will break other SMILES parsers? My viewpoint is that the SMILES spec describes those and implementors should feel free to ignore those fields i

Re: [OpenBabel-Devel] Square planar stereo centers

2010-09-22 Thread Craig A. James
On 9/22/10 1:33 PM, Geoffrey Hutchison wrote: >> Is there any harm in printing SP (and the other point groups) by default? >> Are >> we worried that it will break other SMILES parsers? > > That would be my worry. That we'd print SP or TB or whatever, and users would > come back and complain it'

Re: [OpenBabel-Devel] Square planar stereo centers

2010-09-22 Thread Geoffrey Hutchison
> Is there any harm in printing SP (and the other point groups) by default? > Are we worried that it will break other SMILES parsers? That would be my worry. That we'd print SP or TB or whatever, and users would come back and complain it's not valid SMILES using Open Eye or ChemDraw or somesuc

Re: [OpenBabel-Devel] Square planar stereo centers

2010-09-22 Thread Craig A. James
On 9/22/10 8:27 AM, Geoffrey Hutchison wrote: > IMHO, since very little software handles SP stereo information, it should > be enabled as an option to output with SMILES or canonical SMILES. Is there any harm in printing SP (and the other point groups) by default? Are we worried that it will br

Re: [OpenBabel-Devel] Square planar stereo centers

2010-09-22 Thread Geoffrey Hutchison
> atom should be tetrahedral or square planar. I currently have a short > list of atoms that are sp AFAIK: Rh, Ir, Pd, Pt, Au. There are also > metals like Ni that can be both it seems. Can anyone give some advise I think the main question should be "when do we output SP stereo?" Certainly, if we

[OpenBabel-Devel] Square planar stereo centers

2010-09-22 Thread Tim Vandermeersch
Hi, FindStereogenicUnits doesn't detect square planar centers yet. It would not be hard to add this but I'm not sure how to decide when an atom should be tetrahedral or square planar. I currently have a short list of atoms that are sp AFAIK: Rh, Ir, Pd, Pt, Au. There are also metals like Ni that c