SV: ACTIONs, OBSERVATIONs and procedures

2015-09-03 Thread Vebjørn Arntzen
clinical discussions Emne: Re: ACTIONs, OBSERVATIONs and procedures Hi Vebjørn, I agree with Sam. You could certainly use an action archetype for this purpose. The consent archetype developed by Heather for NEHTA actually does this yo track the consenting process. Sorry I can't provide a

Re: ACTIONs, OBSERVATIONs and procedures

2015-09-03 Thread Ian McNicoll
gt; an arbitrary way specific to a particular software. > Cheers Sam > -- > From: Vebjørn Arntzen > Sent: ‎3/‎09/‎2015 4:47 PM > To: 'For openEHR clinical discussions' > > Subject: SV: ACTIONs, OBSERVATIONs and procedures > > Hi everyone

RE: ACTIONs, OBSERVATIONs and procedures

2015-09-03 Thread Dr Sam Heard
Message- From: "Vebjørn Arntzen" Sent: ‎3/‎09/‎2015 4:47 PM To: "'For openEHR clinical discussions'" Subject: SV: ACTIONs, OBSERVATIONs and procedures Hi everyone What about the need to track a workflow of a kind – e.g. something we are dealing with ri

SV: ACTIONs, OBSERVATIONs and procedures

2015-09-03 Thread Vebjørn Arntzen
[mailto:openehr-clinical-boun...@lists.openehr.org] På vegne av pazospa...@hotmail.com Sendt: 3. september 2015 00:45 Til: etie...@saliez.be; openehr-clinical@lists.openehr.org Emne: Re: ACTIONs, OBSERVATIONs and procedures That is not 100% correct, actions can be recorded without any related

Re: ACTIONs, OBSERVATIONs and procedures

2015-09-02 Thread pazospablo
That is not 100% correct, actions can be recorded without any related instruction/activity. I agree with Ian, action recording makes sense when there is some tracking going on, if just the measures are needed (from the clinical point of view) no actions will be recorded, just obs. Sent

Re: ACTIONs, OBSERVATIONs and procedures

2015-09-02 Thread Etienne Saliez
In my view when you get any Observation about the patient, just take it and store in the record. The concept of action is only necessary when some activity is planned and ordered to be done in the next future. Etienne Saliez On Wednesday 02 Sep 2015 10:56:17 Ian McNicoll wrote: > Hi David,

Re: ACTIONs, OBSERVATIONs and procedures

2015-09-02 Thread Ian McNicoll
Hi David, In theory you are correct but in many clinical records the date of the observation acts as a sufficient proxy for activity being performed. Where we do use actions is where we need to track the workflow of the procedure though there is not always a direct correlation between the procedu

ACTIONs, OBSERVATIONs and procedures

2015-09-02 Thread David Moner
Hello, I have just had an interesting conversation with Diego during a coffee break, and several doubts arose around the representation of procedures. At the CKM we have an ACTION archetype to represent any type of procedures. It is described as "A clinical activity carried out for screening, inv