RE: [FORGED] Re: Strange use of 'offset' as a settable RM attribute

2016-02-16 Thread Koray Atalag
Hi Diego, That sounds like a sensible solution – does that mean it will need to be represented with a different statement/grammar? What changes are necessary to accommodate these kind of assertions? Sorry I’m not familiar with this. Cheers, -koray From: openEHR-technical

Aw: Re: Archetype relational mapping - a practical openEHR persistence solution

2016-02-16 Thread Karsten Hilbert
> If a database has a field-type XML, then I expect it does something special > with > that field that justifies the fieldtypename. Oh, it does, it offers validation of the XML, AFAICT. Karsten Hilbert ___ openEHR-technical mailing list

Re: Archetype relational mapping - a practical openEHR persistence solution

2016-02-16 Thread Bert Verhees
If a database has a field-type XML, then I expect it does something special with that field that justifies the fieldtypename. Especially I expect that from Postgres, because they mostly do good things. Bert On 16-02-16 11:47, Thomas Beale wrote: On 14/02/2016 23:25, Bert Verhees wrote:

Re: Archetype relational mapping - a practical openEHR persistence solution

2016-02-16 Thread Thomas Beale
On 16/02/2016 11:26, Seref Arikan wrote: The document oriented view of the domain has no problem with storing XML text in the DB, because the implementations are built against that view. The clinical care focused use cases require developers to focus on reading & writing documents, so there

Re: Archetype relational mapping - a practical openEHR persistence solution

2016-02-16 Thread Seref Arikan
You're right, it does not read in the way I wanted it to. Let me try to clarify: Clinical care is strongly single patient centric, and in most cases this puts a limit on the amount of data that does not push the limits of computational power too much. Developers can afford to fetch multiple

Re: Archetype relational mapping - a practical openEHR persistence solution

2016-02-16 Thread Ian McNicoll
Hi Seref, "so there is rarely a requirement to read across documents, because clinicians would not be able to consume all that information at once (except averages or other aggregate values they're interested in)" I don't think that is true in any other than the most trivial implementations. The

Re: Archetype relational mapping - a practical openEHR persistence solution

2016-02-16 Thread Seref Arikan
The document oriented view of the domain has no problem with storing XML text in the DB, because the implementations are built against that view. The clinical care focused use cases require developers to focus on reading & writing documents, so there is rarely a requirement to read across

Re: Strange use of 'offset' as a settable RM attribute

2016-02-16 Thread Thomas Beale
On 15/02/2016 10:25, Sebastian Garde wrote: We have been through this a long time ago I think, with Koray having the exact question and opinion I had. The downside if you don't allow this kind of constraint(!) on functional attributes in archetypes, here you cannot constrain the other

Re: Archetype relational mapping - a practical openEHR persistence solution

2016-02-16 Thread Thomas Beale
On 14/02/2016 23:25, Bert Verhees wrote: One doesn't know what software really does. One must distinguish what software seems to do and what it really does. Storing XML really as XML means, storing a lot of redundant information. I don't know, but I cannot believe postgress really stores