Re: [Troll] Terminology bindings ... again

I'm sorry but "...no cancer was, is, or will be present." doesn't even make sense. No system can record what can or can't happen in the future, and that concept is not part of any terminology AFAIK. On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 7:35 PM, GF wrote: > Thomas, > > OpenEHR and 13606 deal

Re: [Troll] Terminology bindings ... again

In a so-called closed-world system, everything that is stated constitutes the totality of the truths about the world it relates to. In particular, /absence/ of an assertion (such as 'patient X has cancer') means negation, i.e. that patient X doesn't have cancer. But openEHR and 13606 don't

Re: [Troll] Terminology bindings ... again

Thomas, OpenEHR and 13606 deal with Closed World Assumption systems. And therefor both mean in the case of 'No Cancer' that Cancer was not found in the database or that No Cancer was the documented result of an evaluation. Both statements are documented things in a Template that according to the

Re: [Troll] Terminology bindings ... again

On 01/04/2018 13:16, GF wrote: Pre-coordinated SNOMED codes are like classifications, in that they are used at the user level, the User Interface, The Ontology behind SNOMED allows the pre-ordinated codes to be decomposed in its constituents. These decomposed primitive codes can be used in

Re: SV: [Troll] Terminology bindings ... again

One thing I have noticed in recent systems in Brazil I looked at is that the codes are locally defined (e.g. SIGTAP, a Brazilian vocabulary for procedures) and almost all pre-coordinations of the most unscientific kind (with terms of the form 'cholecystectomy performed at private or military

Re: [Troll] Terminology bindings ... again

In system interfaces we must not use pre-coordinted SNOMED terms. In User Interfaces we can to use them. In extremo one pre-co-ordinated code can describe the whole oeuvre of Shakespeare which makes sense in very specific circumstances for very specific purposes Gerard Freriks +31 620347088

Re: [Troll] Terminology bindings ... again

Pre-coordinated SNOMED codes are like classifications, in that they are used at the user level, the User Interface, The Ontology behind SNOMED allows the pre-ordinated codes to be decomposed in its constituents. These decomposed primitive codes can be used in structures like archetypes at the

Re: SV: [Troll] Terminology bindings ... again

On 31/03/2018 10:38, Philippe Ameline wrote: ... When I try to explain all this to lesser tech-savvy people (means, who don't belong to this list ;-) ), I usually explain that: - usual systems (with an information schema tied to a database schema) are like a printed form. The day after you