EHRcom/openEHR the new exciting paradigm

2006-09-15 Thread Grahame Grieve
> But. > -1- > The HL7 RIM is a reference model for any sentence. > The EHRcom reference model defines any document. > The former will be more difficult to implement generally by writing generic > software, because sentences can express very many nuances of trillions of > things. > The latter is

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2006-09-15 Thread Gerard Freriks
Dear Graham, This round no next move from me. I call for a time out. This gives time for some reflections: -1- HL7 as an organisation is extremely valuable. We really must preserve this precious resource of healthcare providers, their organisations and Software vendors. -2- This is not to say

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2006-09-15 Thread Thomas Beale
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2006-09-16 Thread Grahame Grieve
> I call for a time out. time out is good. I'm about to hit the road for a while I agree with #1 - #6 > When the world starts to experience the multitude of difficuties with > the HL7v3 RIM and message development method what will we do? keep watching, we will find out next meeting. Grahame

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2006-09-16 Thread Grahame Grieve
Last email for a little while > This actually isn't as big a difference as you might think. The heavy use of > codes in the HL7 model is a way of getting out of statically typing things. > The > various mood codes for example (originally 6, now 15 I think) are in lieu of > using further typing

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2006-09-15 Thread Thomas Beale
Grahame Grieve wrote: > >> this is true. What is there now: >> * CEN HISA >> * emerging openEHR service models for EHR, demographics, terminology access >> and >> archetype access >> * state-based process management for Instructions, i.e. medications, orders, >> procedures. >> * high-level HL

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2006-09-18 Thread Dr LONJON Roger
Hello, I am completely okay with T Baele. We have in France a comparable debate with the DMP project (Personal Medical record). The physician needs information under shape of documents.He/it wants them quickly and sure being that the content is reliable to be able to take a decision or to prescribe

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2006-09-19 Thread Grahame Grieve
>>> this is true. What is there now: >>> * CEN HISA >>> * emerging openEHR service models for EHR, demographics, terminology access >>> and >>> archetype access >>> * state-based process management for Instructions, i.e. medications, >>> orders, >>> procedures. >>> * high-level HL7 HSSP specif

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2006-09-15 Thread williamtfgoos...@cs.com
In een bericht met de datum 15-9-2006 18:56:19 West-Europa (zomertijd), schrijft gfrer at luna.nl: > -7- > Then the question arises: > When the world starts to experience the multitude of difficuties with the > HL7v3 RIM and message development method what will we do? > Will we start to patch u

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2006-09-15 Thread Gerard Freriks
Dear William, Either the brave Dutch are stupid or very clever to become almost the only nations on this earth to vote negative on: the CEN/tc251 EN13606 EHRcom and HISA standards. I know one thing for certain. Based on the openEHR specification in TNO project we have one working implementati

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2006-09-15 Thread Randolph Neall
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 16:07 Subject: Re: Antw: Re: EHRcom/openEHR the new exciting paradigm Dear William, Either the brave Dutch are stupid or very clever to become almost the only nations on this earth to vote negative on: the CEN/tc251 EN13606 EHRcom and HISA stand

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2006-09-16 Thread Gerard Freriks
Dear William, One very important point I forgot to make: You wrote: Any discussion in favour of one and against another approach is going back to the trenches of WW1 where we would like to work towards the future. What you write is that any discussion pro or contra a point of view will lea

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2006-09-16 Thread William E Hammond
Please respond to For openEHR technical discussions To: "For openEHR technical discussions" cc: Subject: Re: Antw: Re: EHRcom/openEHR the new exciting paradigm I'm a .Net developer in the U.S. researching development of EHR. I've been absolutely f

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2006-09-17 Thread Gavin Brelstaff
As an unqualified lurker in these groups I must say I was v. impressed by the breadth and depth of knowledge of HL7 that Thomas Beale has shown in these recent discussions - it gives me even more confidence in the principled basis behind openEHR and the openess of the openEHR people in their respon

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2006-09-17 Thread williamtfgoos...@cs.com
In een bericht met de datum 15-9-2006 22:21:23 West-Europa (zomertijd), schrijft gfrer at luna.nl: snip snip: > > > I agree. > There is only one patient, with one problem that needs our unified > attention and devotion. > So we have to co-operate. > But we have to continue to discuss and pr

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2006-09-17 Thread williamtfgoos...@cs.com
In een bericht met de datum 15-9-2006 23:15:45 West-Europa (zomertijd), schrijft randy.neall at veriquant.com: > > Since I'm not sufficiently acquainted with all the details of either system > I could not follow each nuance of the argument. But among the things I'm > taking away from this is

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2006-09-18 Thread Thomas Beale
Williamtfgoossen at cs.com wrote: > > > So the 'standard' approach is: > > one patient with > one or more diseases > and none to many associated problems / complaints > and none to many associated nursing diagnoses / allied health problems > and one to many activities for the disease (s) > and one

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2006-09-18 Thread williamtfgoos...@cs.com
In een bericht met de datum 18-9-2006 10:45:04 West-Europa (zomertijd), schrijft Thomas.Beale at OceanInformatics.biz: > There are guideline and > workflow languages (not provided by HL7 or openEHR), and the beginnings > of models for choreography coming from WfMC and other places. I have lo

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2006-09-19 Thread Heath Frankel
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2006-09-26 Thread Sam Heard
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