Issues around UI technologies and bindings to back end (gjb)

2009-07-29 Thread Thomas Beale
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Issues around UI technologies and bindings to back end (gjb)

2009-07-29 Thread Thomas Beale
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Issues around UI technologies and bindings to back end (gjb)

2009-07-29 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Tim, Two questions regarding your comments: I want to speak on (what **I** think) is this underlying REAL problem. I could not understand what the real problem you describe is. Could you please define it once more? But the reality is that we have been battling this for more than 45 years

Issues around UI technologies and bindings to back end

2009-07-28 Thread gjb
Thomas Beale wrote: To clarify one thing: UI structures have to be based on templates, which are essentially specific 'data set' definitions, not archetypes, which standardise all content irrespective of any particular use. But I agree with the point that any such artefact cannot be

Issues around UI technologies and bindings to back end

2009-07-26 Thread Diego Boscá
This reminds me a thing. Would be useful to have at ADL level something like postconditions? (In your example, something stating how to obtain or validate MBP from available values). I think this falls into knowledge level. 2009/7/25 Thomas Beale thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com: Bert

Issues around UI technologies and bindings to back end

2009-07-26 Thread Bert Verhees
hope this clarifies Thanks, Thomas, it clarifies why archetypes do not suffice in application-context for data entry/presentation. For the moment, we can live without templates (leave it to form-developers to define where to use a specific archetype-item), or fabricate template-definition for

Issues around UI technologies and bindings to back end

2009-07-26 Thread Thomas Beale
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Issues around UI technologies and bindings to back end

2009-07-26 Thread Thomas Beale
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Issues around UI technologies and bindings to back end

2009-07-25 Thread Heath Frankel
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Issues around UI technologies and bindings to back end

2009-07-25 Thread Greg Caulton
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Issues around UI technologies and bindings to back end

2009-07-25 Thread Thomas Beale
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Issues around UI technologies and bindings to back end

2009-07-25 Thread Bert Verhees
yes - but to do this, they need to be working with templates. Archetypes on their own don't make sense as direct data-capture models. Thomas, I wonder why this is, maybe you can explain this or point to an explanation. Thanks Bert

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2009-07-25 Thread Thomas Beale
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Issues around UI technologies and bindings to back end

2009-07-24 Thread Sebastian Garde
Heath Frankel wrote: I am not sure if CKM supports XML output of archetypes as yet but if it is felt that not having archetypes available in XML is holding back openEHR adoption then I am sure this can be put on the change request list for prioritisation. No, it doesn't yet, but

Issues around UI technologies and bindings to back end

2009-07-23 Thread Greg Caulton
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Issues around UI technologies and bindings to back end

2009-07-23 Thread Seref Arikan
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2009-07-23 Thread Diego Boscá
or plan to support different models, but the tools that support those models are still unknown to a lot of potential users 2009/7/23 Greg Caulton caultonpos at gmail.com: Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:16:20 +0200 From: hepabolu hepabolu at gmail.com Subject: Re: Issues around UI technologies

Issues around UI technologies and bindings to back end

2009-07-23 Thread Thomas Beale
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2009-07-22 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Gavin, Thanks for the input, Now, to see a little bit more, please visit http://www.mscui.net/PatientJourneyDemonstrator/ Omer Hotomaroglu notified me of this some time ago, and I guess everyting here is not in CUI specs yet, but this is a much better demonstration of how GUI specialization can

Issues around UI technologies and bindings to back end

2009-07-22 Thread hepabolu
Seref Arikan said the following on 22/7/09 11:39: Now about UI - model relationship, my view is the GUI layer is way too complex and diverse to include in openEHR specifications, even a subset of the UI related stuff would be enough to introduce more problems than it solves. IF there

Issues around UI technologies and bindings to back end

2009-07-22 Thread Seref Arikan
Thanks Helma, Very interesting feedback. Considering one of the authors, Tony Austin, is in the next room, and here I am hearing about this work from you :) Kind regards Seref On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:16 PM, hepabolu hepabolu at gmail.com wrote: Seref Arikan said the following on 22/7/09

Issues around UI technologies and bindings to back end

2009-07-21 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi, Even if it feels a little bit too implementation related I'd like to get your opinions about the various UI implementation ideas/practices you may have, especially about web based applications. I've written an initial set of things here :

Issues around UI technologies and bindings to back end

2009-07-21 Thread gjb
Hi Seref, Seref Arikan wrote: I've written an initial set of things here : http://www.openehr.org/wiki/display/projects/Technology+and+architecture+challenges+in+UI+implementation. based on Opereffa, but I'd really like to hear how others are tackling UI layer. I'm a little bit worried since