Re: [Openerp-community] How will price per user really work?

2014-05-18 Thread Enapps :: Vadim Chobanu
Precisely, thank you Marcello! I would struggle here in the UK to charge more than 20k GBP for a 20 users ERP implementation. And then if they are to pay 20*12EUR*5 apps*12months = 14.400 per year! Not far from the initial implementation costs. But wait - on top of that the service provider must

Re: [Openerp-community] How will price per user really work?

2014-05-18 Thread Enapps :: Vadim Chobanu
Exact same thing here for Enapps except the language bit. Its impossible to use the out the box for our customers without heavy customisation and there is no chance S.A could support/maintain our implementations without the extensive knowledge of local requirement/lingua/fiscal and business speci

Re: [Openerp-community] Landed Cost in OpenERP 7.0

2014-05-18 Thread Andres Calle
Thanks Eric, For a quick view of the v8 for landing costs this video by Abhishek was useful to me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4lxe-VKl4w. I will be atento to see your iimproved module. BR Andres Calle TRESCLOUD 2014-05-18 21:38 GMT-05:00 Eric Caudal : > Hi, > We have extended (purchase_

Re: [Openerp-community] Landed Cost in OpenERP 7.0

2014-05-18 Thread Carlos Vásquez
Hi Eric and Andrés, We have a module that modifies the product cost with the shipping and nationalization costs. We just updated it to 7 for an ongoing project. I will send you the info tomorrow. Regards, -- Carlos Vásquez CTO · Director de Ingeniería CLEARCORP S.A. carlos.vasq...@clearcorp.co.

Re: [Openerp-community] Landed Cost in OpenERP 7.0

2014-05-18 Thread Eric Caudal
Hi, We have extended (purchase_landed_cost_extended) the c2c module with currency management and other cosmetic developments. We will publish it today (hopefully). It works fine on standard costing but do not take care yet of the landing cost posted after incoming shipment validation for avera

[Openerp-community] Landed Cost in OpenERP 7.0

2014-05-18 Thread Andres Calle
Hello Everyone, We are about to develop a module for registering imports (like importing stocks from other countries), I would appreciate your advice on one of the following aproaches: - Option1: Maybe the best way is to have something similar (maybe a backport) of the "stock_landed_costs"

Re: [Openerp-community] How will price per user really work?

2014-05-18 Thread Marcelo Bello
Fabien, let's please be intellectually honest here. Your argument: *"The part of the commission on Odoo Enterprise is usually lower than 4% of the revenue a partner take on a project. So, their motivation is noton the commission."* Basic math for a client with 20 users and 5 apps for 24 months:

Re: [Openerp-community] How will price per user really work?

2014-05-18 Thread Eric Caudal
+1 Eric CAUDAL Eric Caudal /CEO/ -- *Elico Corporation, Shanghai branch /OpenERP Premium Certified Training Partner/ * Cell: + 86 186 2136 1670 Office: + 86 21 6211 8017/27/37 Skype: elico.corp eric.cau...@elico-corp.com http://www.elico-corp.com Elico Corp

Re: [Openerp-community] How will price per user really work?

2014-05-18 Thread Carlos Vásquez
Fabien, About the 2 year limit and the direct billing, the problem is that we do not sell Enterprise contracts as a reseller. We use Enterprise contracts as the base to a more complete support contract. This is due to the following reasons at least: 1. Almost none of our projects has only officia

Re: [Openerp-community] How will price per user really work?

2014-05-18 Thread Kevin . McMenamin
With Odoo wanting to bill our customer, how do you see this working where the price we have agreed with our customer is for a bundle of services, not just licence fees. For example, we have a client that we have developed some very specific functionality for - their annual fee will include supp

Re: [Openerp-community] How will price per user really work?

2014-05-18 Thread Eva Pinter
Hello, It is quite difficult to compare the prices of different systems as every company offers slightly different services especially when it comes to support. Due to the fact that the support is only a community support, then the basic proposal can be considered as hosting only. In the compa

Re: [Openerp-community] How will price per user really work?

2014-05-18 Thread Robin Bahadur
+1 Raphael. I completely agreed. Pricing should very with respect to country. There is huge difference between developed and developing countries. Thanks & Regards Robin Bahadur On May 18, 2014 10:58 PM, "Raphael Valyi" wrote: > Hello Fabien and Marcelo and the others, > > Some inline comments

Re: [Openerp-community] How will price per user really work?

2014-05-18 Thread Raphael Valyi
Hello Fabien and Marcelo and the others, Some inline comments and I just want to clarify a point at the end; On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Fabien Pinckaers wrote: > Hi, > > [...] > > 2/ Why don't we charge according to real usage? (e.g.: 5 users on CRM, 3 > on accounting, 7 on projects?) >

Re: [Openerp-community] How will price per user really work?

2014-05-18 Thread Fabien Pinckaers
On 05/18/2014 06:06 PM, Sebastien Beau wrote: > Hi Fabien > Just a quick question regarding your anwser. > If I apply the discount 50/60% to my customer because I do not care > about commision and I want to sell an OPW. > What happen after the two year? The customer have to paid 12€/per > apps/pe

Re: [Openerp-community] How will price per user really work?

2014-05-18 Thread Sebastien Beau
Hi Fabien Just a quick question regarding your anwser. If I apply the discount 50/60% to my customer because I do not care about commision and I want to sell an OPW. What happen after the two year? The customer have to paid 12€/per apps/per user? Or you still make him a discount? Thanks 2014-05-

Re: [Openerp-community] How will price per user really work?

2014-05-18 Thread Davide Corio
On 18 May 2014, at 16:47, Fabien Pinckaers wrote: > Absolutly not. It's 2x to 3x cheaper than the market average. Check this > comparison of software vendors: > https://www.odoo.com/website/image/ir.attachment/537400/datas Thanks Fabien for the explanation. I just hope Odoo will be open to dis

Re: [Openerp-community] How will price per user really work?

2014-05-18 Thread Fabien Pinckaers
Hi, I just wrote a blog to explain the new pricing: https://www.odoo.com/blog/1/post/158 Please read it before going further in this email. I'll try to answer most questions here: 1/ How to compute the price? The price is: # total of users X # of apps bundle X 12€ 2/ Why don't we charge