Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-11-06 Thread nooalf
ble click the font file in your drive, and Google docs will preview the font characters for you. > > The correct spelling for that iz KoKSUKR. can’t believe i missed that -Original Message- From: vernon adams To: Open Font Library Sent: Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:58 pm Subject:

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-11-05 Thread Vernon Adams
The criticism is usually based on around 2 things; ‘quality' and ‘money’. The argument allways goes along the lines of; ‘all these free fonts are lowering type design standards’, and, ‘all these free fonts are reducing the traditional economic value of fonts’. I’m sure there’s some videos or 2 f

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-11-05 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 11:09 PM, vernon adams wrote: >> HAHAHA! Who iz Bruno Maag? > > He runs a well known type design agency. He’s a loud critic of Free fonts. Just to feed my curiosity... How does one design free fonts and then criticize free fonts? Any URLs to share? Alexandre

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-11-05 Thread vernon adams
On 5 Nov 2013, at 10:52, noo...@aol.com wrote: > HAHAHA! Who iz Bruno Maag? He runs a well known type design agency. He’s a loud critic of Free fonts. But don’t get the wrong idea, i like him and admire the work he & his agency does. Just thought it would make a good specimen for JRUG_PUNK.

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-11-02 Thread nooalf
Thanks! The fonts are free for use by everybody, including commercial use. -Original Message- From: vernon adams To: Open Font Library Sent: Sat, Nov 2, 2013 6:59 pm Subject: Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting i like “oRMR_MK3” a LOT :) On 1 Nov 2013, at 17:59, Raphaël

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-11-01 Thread Vernon Adams
My specimen references some famous Gilbert & George art pieces. It’s good to see people making fonts like this. Type should be made from these sort of marks too. I see them as liberational, and equally as beautiful as the marks on the Trajan column. Seriously. -v On 1 Nov 2013, at 18:28, Dave

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-11-01 Thread Dave Crossland
Please keep it polite, vern.

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-11-01 Thread vernon adams
i like “oRMR_MK3” a LOT :) On 1 Nov 2013, at 17:59, Raphaël Bastide wrote: > Ok noo...@aol.com I just discovered your website and it’s amazing. > What are the licences of your fonts ? > > -- > Raphaël Bastide > raphaelbastide.com > > > On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 11:40 PM, Dave Crossland wrote:

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-11-01 Thread Raphaël Bastide
Ok noo...@aol.com I just discovered your website and it’s amazing. What are the licences of your fonts ? -- Raphaël Bastide raphaelbastide.com On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 11:40 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > On 1 November 2013 18:24, wrote: > > Turnz out pretty good

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-11-01 Thread Dave Crossland
On 1 November 2013 18:24, wrote: > Turnz out pretty good doing it this way Sick

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-11-01 Thread nooalf
- From: Dave Crossland To: Open Font Library Sent: Fri, Nov 1, 2013 12:32 pm Subject: Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting On 30 October 2013 17:35, wrote: > I coudnt get the webfont thing to work, so just went with gif and jpg piks > uv the text. Kind uv a hassle, but it e

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-10-30 Thread Dave Crossland
On 30 October 2013 17:35, wrote: > I coudnt get the webfont thing to work, so just went with gif and jpg piks > uv the text. Kind uv a hassle, but it ensurez that everybody will see it > correctly. If youre worried that the pik text iz not searchable, just put > the text in a mouse over note or a

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-10-30 Thread nooalf
Message- From: Garrick van Buren To: Open Font Library Sent: Tue, Oct 29, 2013 7:50 pm Subject: Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting Quinn - what do you mean by "so I don't have to use @font-face"? Vernon - thanks for calling out the Fontue project. I stopped devel

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-10-29 Thread Dave Crossland
On 29 October 2013 17:58, Garrick van Buren wrote: > treating one kind of web-delivered asset differently than others introduces > an unnecessary level of complexity Serving fonts isn't as simple as your CSS though; its useful to have a web font serve that parses the UA string and does eg serve

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-10-29 Thread vernon adams
Sure, i think we are nearly already there. When i say ‘webfont server’ i just mean anything (e.g. just a bit of php) that allows a user in one part of the word to create a webpage that pulls a font from another part of the world, without the need for too much css coding. I don’t see any reason w

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-10-29 Thread Garrick van Buren
Vernon, I think we're already there. Modern web servers do a great job of serving font files just as they do a great job of serving image files, javascript files, html files, and css files. From my perspective, treating one kind of web-delivered asset differently than others introduces an unne

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-10-29 Thread vernon adams
I think you are right. Imo the web would be much more robust and fertile if type was even more ‘democratised’ and ‘autonomous’. The big web companies would be much better served by a few big font servers amid swarms of small font servers. Repeating myself, i know, :) but if webfont servers could

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-10-29 Thread Garrick van Buren
On Oct 29, 2013, at 1:19 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > > This is why Google Fonts is better than self hosting. Its likely > you've already cached the most popular Google Fonts. Sure, that's the argument for linking to any of Google-hosted resources (jQuery, etc). Personally, I feel this approac

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-10-29 Thread vernon adams
I think we could assume that someone self hosting a handfull of fonts isn’t likely to be pushing to billions of font calls, per font, every week. Though it would be interesting to run an experiment and see what figures are possible :) On 29 Oct 2013, at 11:19, Dave Crossland wrote: > On 29

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-10-29 Thread Dave Crossland
On 29 October 2013 14:11, Garrick van Buren wrote: > Yes, cache headers can eliminate this issue for subsequent loads - assuming > your site is someplace people will visit repeatedly within the cache > lifetime. This is why Google Fonts is better than self hosting. Its likely you've already cache

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-10-29 Thread Garrick van Buren
Something to note: From a performance perspective, most lag is caused by setting up the HTTP connection. Essentially, anything other than Apache/Nginx/etc serving a static file (just like js/jpg/png/etc) on the same files system as the webpage itself will degrade delivery performance. Yes, cach

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-10-29 Thread vernon adams
I’m not sure Quinn is after what you think he is :) Quinn… do you mean you want to serve fonts like the example i am serving from http://newtypography.net/testing/ ? A.k.a you want your fonts to be served to remote web pages by simply adding a 'link href’ line to the head of the source html doc

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-10-29 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Quinn! On 29 October 2013 13:05, Quinn Keaveney wrote: > By saying I don't want to use @ff I just mean that I want to use an @ff that > obfuscates the link/src file so you can not just click and download the > woff. This is impossible. You may find http://craphound.com/msftdrm.txt helpful in

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-10-29 Thread Garrick van Buren
Quinn - what do you mean by "so I don't have to use @font-face"? Vernon - thanks for calling out the Fontue project. I stopped developing it for 2 reasons: - browser support stabilized to the point where TFF & EOT provide sufficient coverage - my opinion that @font-face works

Re: [OpenFontLibrary] Setting up self hosting

2013-10-28 Thread Vernon Adams
Hi Quinn! I keep wanting to find this out too. IMO it’s the missing key to a typographic revolution :) You might want to look at https://github.com/garrickvanburen/Fontue It is a few years old now. Have you searched on github for ‘font server’ and ‘webfont server’ ?? Brings up a few potential