[OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2011-11-18 Thread Andy Lubel
Dell R510 with 10 2TB SAS drives and 2 146GB 2.5" SAS mirrored via PERC H200 for OS. The 2.5" drives function fine either when a RAID is created or not, however the 2TB drives are only usable if a RAID volume is created.. this has proven very tricky for us. I am not sure what to do next, have tried

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2011-11-18 Thread Jason J. W. Williams
Have you tried using the LSI initiator target firmware for the 2008? -J Sent via iPhone Is your email Premiere? On Nov 18, 2011, at 9:41, Andy Lubel wrote: > Dell R510 with 10 2TB SAS drives and 2 146GB 2.5" SAS mirrored via PERC > H200 for OS. The 2.5" drives function fine either when a RAID

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2011-11-18 Thread Andy Lubel
Let me give that a try and ill get back to you. I will follow the instructions from: http://kb.lsi.com/KnowledgebaseArticle16266.aspx I wouldn't mind at all making this a dumb HBA, I did similar with a 1068 a few years ago, but I was so focused on a backplane issue with this one, it hadn't occurr

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2011-11-18 Thread Andy Lubel
IT firmware didn't work, same issue. I am really leaning towards some sort of enclosure problem (backplane) - any ideas how to troubleshoot that? Thanks, Andy Lubel On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Andy Lubel wrote: > Let me give that a try and ill get back to you. I will follow the > instru

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2011-11-18 Thread Jason J. W. Williams
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Andy Lubel wrote: > IT firmware didn't work, same issue. I am really leaning towards some sort > of enclosure problem (backplane) - any ideas how to troubleshoot that? > Do the 2TB 2.5" drives work in other systems? Have you tried other drives you might have lyi

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2011-11-18 Thread Andy Lubel
I'm betting there is an expander, it looks fancy and some enclosure device shows up in the lsi firmware as well as cfgadm output.. Its also dual ported (and I have tried unplugging one cable with no different behavior). I may or may not be able to test these drives in another system.. let me try

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2011-11-18 Thread Jason J. W. Williams
If you've only got 2 ports on the LSI card for 12 drives, then an expander has to be in play. -J On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Andy Lubel wrote: > I'm betting there is an expander, it looks fancy and some enclosure device > shows up in the lsi firmware as well as cfgadm output.. Its also du

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2011-11-21 Thread Andy Lubel
So yeah an expander aka backplane in play here. What next? I really don't want to abandon the effort to hopefully use the best distribution available for our needs. On Nov 18, 2011, at 16:22, "Jason J. W. Williams" wrote: > If you've only got 2 ports on the LSI card for 12 drives, then an e

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2011-11-22 Thread Andy Lubel
FYI solaris 10 works great but I really need dedup. Going to go crazy and try to copy the kernel drivers from solaris 10 over to b151 and see what happens. Saw a great article stating that expanders were not supported in solaris 11.. so i wonder how they work the j series and HBA cards that are o

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2011-11-22 Thread Rich
Dell Rx10 works fine for me on S11. This is just the drives on the front, not an external MD1200 or similar, right? - Rich On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Andy Lubel wrote: > FYI solaris 10 works great but I really need dedup.  Going to go crazy and > try to copy the kernel drivers from solaris

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2011-11-22 Thread Andy Lubel
Yep just an r510 with an h200 and 10x 2tb unraided/ 2x raided internal 146gb drives. What drives are you using in the front? Pure jbod with Zfs? On Nov 22, 2011, at 17:03, Rich wrote: > Dell Rx10 works fine for me on S11. This is just the drives on the > front, not an external MD1200 or simila

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2011-11-30 Thread Andy Lubel
I have a feeling that my culprit here could be the disks: ST2000NM0001. But its strange because again, everything works just fine in Solaris 10, but in OI/Sol11 I get the errors. I have tried muddling with stmsboot -d /kernel/drv/scsi_vhci.conf /kernel/drv/mpt.conf /kernel/drv/mpt_sas.conf To no

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2011-11-30 Thread Rich
I'm on a Dell R710 and haven't seen any such issues. Then again, I'm using a different controller than you are (PERC 6/i, please don't ask me why). - Rich On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Andy Lubel wrote: > I have a feeling that my culprit here could be the disks: ST2000NM0001. >  But its stra

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2011-11-30 Thread Andy Lubel
Yeah, and you are probably exporting each disk as a raid 0, pseudo jbod with some BBC.. I suppose that's an option for us but it really shouldn't be that way. The H200 can only create 2 raid disks anyways. Is there any other lists that may be of help? On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Rich wrote

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2011-11-30 Thread Rich
I'm not, the disks are being exposed as a single logical RAID-10. I dunno boss. - Rich On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Andy Lubel wrote: > Yeah, and you are probably exporting each disk as a raid 0, pseudo jbod > with some BBC.. I suppose that's an option for us but it > really shouldn't be th

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2011-11-30 Thread Geoff Flarity
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Andy Lubel wrote: > Yeah, and you are probably exporting each disk as a raid 0, pseudo jbod > with some BBC.. I suppose that's an option for us but it > really shouldn't be that way.  The H200 can only create 2 raid disks > anyways. > > Is there any other lists tha

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2011-11-30 Thread Andy Lubel
I dont think its the controller card so much as I think its something to do with the disks/backplane/power management even. It works fine if I create raid volumes. if you wanted to be similar to Rich, you could just do a bunch of raid 0's with a perc 600. Using any type of raid with ZFS creates

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2011-11-30 Thread James C. McPherson
On 1/12/11 08:57 AM, Andy Lubel wrote: I dont think its the controller card so much as I think its something to do with the disks/backplane/power management even. It works fine if I create raid volumes. if you wanted to be similar to Rich, you could just do a bunch of raid 0's with a perc 600.

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2011-11-30 Thread Andy Lubel
Im sorry you got that idea, I totally agree with you.. But I came across this oracle Solaris 11 document that stated that expanders were not supported although I have used them in both the 7000 series (with the j series expanders) and using commodity expander shelves with commodity lsi based sas

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2011-11-30 Thread Gary
I've found the ZFS discuss list a good source for people with a wide variety of HBA knowledge. It is true that if your aren't using a breakout cable that you'll need drivers that work with whatever backplane you're using instead. -Gary ___ OpenIndiana-di

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2011-11-30 Thread Andy Lubel
Backplane drivers should be irrelevant. The expander should speak a common language. Not sure how to tap into things to confirm. I have tried lsi latest IR and IT firmwares with same results under OI and sol11. On Nov 30, 2011, at 23:25, Gary wrote: > I've found the ZFS discuss list a good so

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2011-11-30 Thread Rich
I'm guessing it has to be the drives, because A) I don't think the SAS expander portions of the SAS protocol are optional B) I have tried some extremely convoluted SAS expander configurations with OI and had them run "fine"*. I'd finger LSI as making any SAS things for Dell by default, as I know

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2011-12-01 Thread Andy Lubel
Yeah, its the drives.. whipped out a Hitachi 2TB SATA 3gbps drive and plugged it in and it looks good. looks like my problem is the ST2000NM001 - 6gbps SAS2 2TB. Problem is that I have 20 of these. I wonder what I should do now.. On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Rich wrote: > I'm guessing it ha

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2011-12-01 Thread Rich
If you got them from Dell, talk to Dell about them misbehaving. If you didn't, then I have even fewer constructive ideas. - Rich On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Andy Lubel wrote: > Yeah, its the drives.. whipped out a Hitachi 2TB SATA 3gbps drive and > plugged it in and it looks good. > > looks

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008(PERC H200)

2011-12-01 Thread Jason Matthews
: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008(PERC H200) If you got them from Dell, talk to Dell about them misbehaving. If you didn't, then I have even fewer constructive ideas. - Rich On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Andy Lubel

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2011-12-01 Thread David Brodbeck
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Rich wrote: > If you got them from Dell, talk to Dell about them misbehaving. > > If you didn't, then I have even fewer constructive ideas. > If you didn't that may be the problem. Dell got tired of people loading their servers up with 3rd party drives and then c

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2011-12-01 Thread Andy Lubel
It's 100% Dell at this point. I haven't called them because I'm guessing they don't speak Solaris and I can't reproduce the behavior on any of the supported OS'. I'll try nonetheless and see what happens. Rather than return the drives/system I was thinking of getting the h700i and just doing j

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2011-12-01 Thread James C. McPherson
On 2/12/11 09:52 AM, Andy Lubel wrote: It's 100% Dell at this point. I haven't called them because I'm guessing they don't speak Solaris and I can't reproduce the behavior on any of the supported OS'. I'll try nonetheless and see what happens. Rather than return the drives/system I was thinking

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2011-12-02 Thread Rich
1) Last I heard, Dell EoL'd Solaris support for any but custom support contracts. 2) Dell reverted the non-Dell lockout on their card firmwares after there was an enormous backlash. - Rich On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 10:27 PM, James C. McPherson wrote: > On  2/12/11 09:52 AM, Andy Lubel wrote: >> >>

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2011-12-06 Thread Andy Lubel
Yeah dell support was great, they twiddled their thumbs then put me on the phone with a sales guy and at that point I just decided to order a h700i. All this fear and uncertainty regarding hard drive shortages puts my delivery date at risk (I would have rather switched to Sata). If it doesn't wo

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2012-01-10 Thread cryptz
how did you make out with this? i have the same configuration but my system came with 2tb WD drives. Otherwise our configuration and symptoms were the same. Did the h700 resolve this? Woudl an LSI 8 port I card be prefered so that we can skip the raid 0 setup? _

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2012-01-10 Thread cryptz
How did you make out with this? i just recieved the same configuration, except it is using 2tb western digital drives. I have the same exact errors though. Did the h710 resolve your issues? ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@open

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2012-01-10 Thread Andy Lubel
Hat to go with h700. Works flawlessly. Had to make single drive raid 0 then create pool. I tried lsi and dell IT firmware to no avail so I assume it's the drives also since hooking any sata drive up did indeed work, just something about the sas drives (not really sas but they are called that).

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2012-01-11 Thread Grant Albitz
ls and was multipathing. From: Andy Lubel [alu...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 1:00 AM To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Cc: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2012-01-11 Thread Grant Albitz
...@albitz.biz] Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:43 AM To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane withSAS2008 (PERC H200) i purchased an lsi controller card last night. if that does not work i have a h700 i can pull. I am curious about

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2012-01-12 Thread Andy Lubel
> > From: Grant Albitz [galb...@albitz.biz] > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:43 AM > To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana > Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with > SAS2008 (PERC H200) > > i

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2012-01-12 Thread Grant Albitz
- From: Andy Lubel [mailto:alu...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 6:35 PM To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Cc: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200) I would stick with single drive raid 0. I tried what you

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2012-01-13 Thread Rich
2, 2012 6:35 PM > To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana > Cc: Discussion list for OpenIndiana > Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 > (PERC H200) > > I would stick with single drive raid 0. I tried what you are talking about in > the dis

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2012-01-13 Thread Grant Albitz
riday, January 13, 2012 10:00 AM To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200) Should do SATA 3 - I didn't think that SATA 3 speed for STP was an optional part of the SAS 2.0 spec. - Rich On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 a

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2012-04-04 Thread Sergei
Firmware modifications made by Dell to WD and may be Seagate drives is what makes opensolaris not being able to power up those disks. Easiest way to make it work is to modify /kernel/drv/sd.conf and add an entry for your specific drive similar to this sd-config-list= "WD WD2000FYYG","power-

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2012-04-04 Thread Rich
...what FW modifications did they make? - Rich On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Sergei wrote: > > Firmware modifications made by Dell to WD and may be Seagate drives is what > makes opensolaris not being able to power up those disks. > > Easiest way to make it work is to modify /kernel/drv/sd.con

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2012-04-07 Thread Sergei
Rich acm.jhu.edu> writes: > > ...what FW modifications did they make? > > - Rich They definitely made some as you can't flash Dell drive with Seagate/WD firmware. Or get support from Seagate/WD for Dell-branded drive. Specifically in this case drive reports support for this power management

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2012-04-07 Thread Mark
On 8/04/2012 3:26 p.m., Sergei wrote: Rich acm.jhu.edu> writes: ...what FW modifications did they make? - Rich They definitely made some as you can't flash Dell drive with Seagate/WD firmware. Or get support from Seagate/WD for Dell-branded drive. That is specific to the firmware prote

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2012-04-08 Thread Albert Lee
On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 12:21 AM, Mark wrote: > On 8/04/2012 3:26 p.m., Sergei wrote: > >> Rich acm.jhu.edu> writes: >> >> >>> ...what FW modifications did they make? >>> >>> - Rich >>> >> >> >> >> They definitely made some as you can't flash Dell drive with Seagate/WD >> firmware. Or get suppor

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2012-04-18 Thread Magnus Bergman
Sergei wrote: Firmware modifications made by Dell to WD and may be Seagate drives is what makes opensolaris not being able to power up those disks. Easiest way to make it work is to modify /kernel/drv/sd.conf and add an entry for your specific drive similar to this sd-config-list= "WD WD20

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Dell R510 SAS2 Backplane with SAS2008 (PERC H200)

2012-04-18 Thread Sergei
Magnus Bergman trisec.net> writes: > > Do you have any details on the mdb method? > > I just received a replacement disk of a different type than the broken > one that I don't have specified in sd.conf so it won't power up and I'd > prefer not to reboot. > > //Magnus > Try this http://past