[OpenIndiana-discuss] Powerloss protected SSDs for ...Re: Low low end server

2014-02-10 Thread Hans J. Albertsson
I've been trying to find what powerloss protected SSDs are available in sweden. The only ones I can find that are generally available are Samsung 843 and Intel S3500. The Intel S3500 costs about 1300 SEK (145 €??) each at 120GB. The Seagates are NOT available anywhere that I can see. Samsung

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Powerloss protected SSDs for ...Re: Low low end server

2014-02-10 Thread Schweiss, Chip
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:22 AM, Hans J. Albertsson < hans.j.alberts...@branneriet.se> wrote: > Samsung 843 The 843 while called and enterprise SSD, does not have capacitors for power loss protection. http://www.thessdreview.com/our-reviews/samsung-843/2/ _

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Powerloss protected SSDs for ...Re: Low low end server

2014-02-10 Thread Doug Hughes
Why not Intel 320 series? Also 710 series work fine for this, for a bit more $$ and a bit more speed. The 320 are not as fast as the S3700 or S3500 but they are a LOT less expensive. On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Schweiss, Chip wrote: > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:22 AM, Hans J. Albertsson <

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Powerloss protected SSDs for ...Re: Low low end server

2014-02-10 Thread Jim Klimov
On 2014-02-10 22:50, Doug Hughes wrote: Why not Intel 320 series? Also 710 series work fine for this, for a bit more $$ and a bit more speed. The 320 are not as fast as the S3700 or S3500 but they are a LOT less expensive. Also, read at least the official specs - the S3500 seems a lot less rel

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Powerloss protected SSDs for ...Re: Low low end server

2014-02-10 Thread Volker A. Brandt
> Why not Intel 320 series? Also 710 series work fine for this, for a > bit more $$ and a bit more speed. The 320 are not as fast as the > S3700 or S3500 but they are a LOT less expensive. This thread started out as a discussion of the merits of the HP N54L microserver for home use. I am not real

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Powerloss protected SSDs for ...Re: Low low end server

2014-02-10 Thread Schweiss, Chip
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 3:58 PM, Volker A. Brandt wrote: > > This thread started out as a discussion of the merits of the HP N54L > microserver for home use. I am not really sure if a home server needs > mirrored battery-protected SSDs. :-) > I tend to agree with this. My approach is to slic

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Powerloss protected SSDs for ...Re: Low low end server

2014-02-10 Thread Doug Hughes
true, Volker.. Just to note though, the 320s have no battery, but they do have enough capacitor to flush anything from the small ram into flash on power outage. On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Volker A. Brandt wrote: > > Why not Intel 320 series? Also 710 series work fine for this, for a > >

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Powerloss protected SSDs for ...Re: Low low end server

2014-02-10 Thread Ben Taylor
Surprised someone hasn't developed a SATA power cable with small battery Passthrough for this exact application. On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Doug Hughes wrote: > true, Volker.. > > Just to note though, the 320s have no battery, but they do have enough > capacitor to flush anything from the

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Powerloss protected SSDs for ...Re: Low low end server

2014-02-10 Thread Doug Hughes
capacitors are better. Batteries wear out and are difficult to have the correct monitoring for replacement. On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:51 PM, Ben Taylor wrote: > Surprised someone hasn't developed a SATA power cable with small battery > Passthrough for this exact application. > > > On Mon, Feb 10

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Powerloss protected SSDs for ...Re: Low low end server

2014-02-10 Thread Ben Taylor
While I agree that monitoring is good, and batteries wear out, and this is a problem in production environments. For a hobbyist, where I can take down my system without permission from my boss or business unit, it is really that bad of an idea? On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Doug Hughes wrote

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Powerloss protected SSDs for ...Re: Low low end server

2014-02-10 Thread Alex Smith (K4RNT)
Wouldn't a UPS with monitoring be a better alternative? Allow the server to power down safely on UPS when it detects a power lost state. Most UPSes I know have either serial or USB monitoring, sometimes even Ethernet on higher-end models (although I've never looked at the monitoring systems in dept

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Powerloss protected SSDs for ...Re: Low low end server

2014-02-10 Thread Hans J. Albertsson
Is that really true: The press reslease from Samsung in the US said explicitly: "The integrated Power loss function includes tantalum capacitors, thus ensuring the data is written while power failure. " On 2014-02-10 22:32, Schweiss, Chip wrote: On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:22 AM, Hans J. Alber

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Powerloss protected SSDs for ...Re: Low low end server

2014-02-10 Thread Hans J. Albertsson
The SSD I'm looking at is a Samsung 843T, note the "T". Maybe there's a non - "T" variety w/o the powerloss protection?? On 2014-02-11 08:28, Hans J. Albertsson wrote: Is that really true: The press reslease from Samsung in the US said explicitly: "The integrated Power loss function includes

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Powerloss protected SSDs for ...Re: Low low end server

2014-02-10 Thread Hans J. Albertsson
That was it. The 843 has no powerloss protection short-term backup power supply, the 843T does have tantalum powerloss backup caps. On 2014-02-11 08:42, Hans J. Albertsson wrote: The SSD I'm looking at is a Samsung 843T, note the "T". Maybe there's a non - "T" variety w/o the powerloss protec

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Powerloss protected SSDs for ...Re: Low low end server

2014-02-11 Thread Jim Klimov
On 2014-02-11 01:08, Alex Smith (K4RNT) wrote: Wouldn't a UPS with monitoring be a better alternative? Allow the server to power down safely on UPS when it detects a power lost state. Most UPSes I know have either serial or USB monitoring, sometimes even Ethernet on higher-end models (although I'