Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sending our zpool offsite using encrypted USB HDDs

2012-08-30 Thread Günther Alka
You may - create encrypted devices from files with lofiadm with any size, even 2 GB to backup the files on any filesystem - create an encrypted ZFS pool from these devices (works with OI and ZFS 28) backup such a pool: copy the files to any backup device (cloud, other NAS, even USB disks, sti

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sending our zpool offsite using encrypted USB HDDs

2012-08-30 Thread Nikola M.
On 08/28/12 06:42 AM, Julius Roberts wrote: Is there a better way to be doing this? Ours seems a little resource intensive and I'm not sure if it's reliable for large > 500gb datasets. lofiadm is used on Opensolaris so you can use it in Openindiana. Would like to know what performance you are

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sending our zpool offsite using encrypted USB HDDs

2012-08-30 Thread Sašo Kiselkov
On 08/30/2012 01:37 PM, Edward Ned Harvey (openindiana) wrote: >> From: Jan Owoc [mailto:jso...@gmail.com] >> >> My personal opinion is that a variant on the way you described it in >> your original mail is the best: >> zfs send your_data | your_favourite_compression | >> your_favourite_encryption

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sending our zpool offsite using encrypted USB HDDs

2012-08-30 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (openindiana)
> From: Jan Owoc [mailto:jso...@gmail.com] > > My personal opinion is that a variant on the way you described it in > your original mail is the best: > zfs send your_data | your_favourite_compression | > your_favourite_encryption > /usb_fs/backup.gz.gpg I still say, don't receive into a file. Th

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sending our zpool offsite using encrypted USB HDDs

2012-08-30 Thread Jim Klimov
2012-08-29 16:08, Thorsten Heit wrote: I'm using bzip2 because it has better compression rates than gzip and because our company only uses fast ethernet although every PC has Gigabit NICs built in :-o If you don't like bzip2, then use something else such as gzip, xz, ... If your modern PCs al

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sending our zpool offsite using encrypted USB HDDs

2012-08-29 Thread Jan Owoc
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Julius Roberts wrote: > On 29 August 2012 21:37, Edward Ned Harvey (openindiana) < > openindi...@nedharvey.com> wrote: > >> I'm not sure when encryption was added to zfs, but you might have to get >> solaris 11 from oracle. >> > > As far as i know, OI was forked fr

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sending our zpool offsite using encrypted USB HDDs

2012-08-29 Thread Julius Roberts
On 29 August 2012 21:37, Edward Ned Harvey (openindiana) < openindi...@nedharvey.com> wrote: > I'm not sure when encryption was added to zfs, but you might have to get > solaris 11 from oracle. > As far as i know, OI was forked from open solaris before encryption was added to zfs, and clearly tha

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sending our zpool offsite using encrypted USB HDDs

2012-08-29 Thread Thorsten Heit
Hi, > > # zfs send fs@snapshot | bzip2 -z -c | gpg -c --cipher-algo AES > > --digest-algo SHA512 > /media/usb/stream.gpg > > Based on performance characteristics, I would never recommend bzip2 > for anything. For most situations like this, fast compression would > be more desirable (lzop is fas

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sending our zpool offsite using encrypted USB HDDs

2012-08-29 Thread Nick Tan
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Edward Ned Harvey (openindiana) wrote: >> From: Gary [mailto:gdri...@gmail.com] >> >> Have you priced out self-encrypting aka hardware-based encrpytion drives? >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware-based_full_disk_encryption > > To my knowledge, all hard-ware ba

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sending our zpool offsite using encrypted USB HDDs

2012-08-29 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (openindiana)
> From: Thorsten Heit [mailto:thorsten.h...@vkb.de] > > # zfs send fs@snapshot | bzip2 -z -c | gpg -c --cipher-algo AES > --digest-algo SHA512 > /media/usb/stream.gpg Based on performance characteristics, I would never recommend bzip2 for anything. For most situations like this, fast compressio

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sending our zpool offsite using encrypted USB HDDs

2012-08-29 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (openindiana)
> From: Gary [mailto:gdri...@gmail.com] > > Have you priced out self-encrypting aka hardware-based encrpytion drives? > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware-based_full_disk_encryption To my knowledge, all hard-ware based self-encrypting drives require a BIOS / UEFI password be typed in when the

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sending our zpool offsite using encrypted USB HDDs

2012-08-29 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (openindiana)
> From: Julius Roberts [mailto:hooliowobb...@gmail.com] > > /sbin/zfs send -R Backups/natoffice@offsite | /usr/bin/encrypt -a aes -k > ~/encryption.key -o /Offsite/encrypted_zfs_send_blob > > Is there a better way to be doing this? Ours seems a > little resource intensive and I'm not sure if it'

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sending our zpool offsite using encrypted USB HDDs

2012-08-29 Thread Thorsten Heit
Hi, > Reliability is assured, so you can sleep peacefully. Send streams are > AFAIK checksummed too, so no need to worry about your bits getting > corrupted on the way. Anyway, you can always just use something like GPG > which hashes the encrypted output by default and checks integrity on > decry

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sending our zpool offsite using encrypted USB HDDs

2012-08-28 Thread Sašo Kiselkov
On 08/29/2012 01:27 AM, Julius Roberts wrote: > anyone? Hi Julius, Seems like nobody picked up the question, so I'm going to. > On 28 August 2012 14:42, Julius Roberts wrote: > >> Hi guys, >> >> due to a lack of high-speed networking, we're unable to replicate our ZFS >> pool offsite, so we're

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sending our zpool offsite using encrypted USB HDDs

2012-08-28 Thread Gary
Julius Roberts wrote: > Is there a better way to be doing this? Ours seems a > little resource intensive and I'm not sure if it's reliable for large > 500gb datasets. > Have you priced out self-encrypting aka hardware-based encrpytion drives? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware-based_full_disk

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sending our zpool offsite using encrypted USB HDDs

2012-08-28 Thread Julius Roberts
anyone? On 28 August 2012 14:42, Julius Roberts wrote: > Hi guys, > > due to a lack of high-speed networking, we're unable to replicate our ZFS > pool offsite, so we're relying on a zfs send to a USB disk. We'd like that > encrypted. > > Currently i have an automated process which creates a zpo

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Sending our zpool offsite using encrypted USB HDDs

2012-08-27 Thread Julius Roberts
Hi guys, due to a lack of high-speed networking, we're unable to replicate our ZFS pool offsite, so we're relying on a zfs send to a USB disk. We'd like that encrypted. Currently i have an automated process which creates a zpool Offsite on a big USB HDD, and then runs something like this, then e