Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What is the recommended way to back up root pool?

2015-11-10 Thread Ian Collins
Alexander Pyhalov wrote: Ian Collins писал 11.11.2015 07:43: 2) Make /etc a mercurial repository and push it to another host. This allows me to track file changes and quickly recover if I stuff something up. Have you looked at fsvs? It also tries to preserve permissions. We have backup/fsvs

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What is the recommended way to back up root pool?

2015-11-10 Thread Ian Collins
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: OP == "Original Poster"? If I am the OP, then my interest is in the best way to preserve and restore root pool configuration (and some user data) in case the OS needs to be installed with the same or a very similar OS from scratch. In this case it is not normally

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What is the recommended way to back up root pool?

2015-11-10 Thread Alexander Pyhalov
Ian Collins писал 11.11.2015 07:43: 2) Make /etc a mercurial repository and push it to another host. This allows me to track file changes and quickly recover if I stuff something up. Have you looked at fsvs? It also tries to preserve permissions. We have backup/fsvs in OI Hipster repository.

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What is the recommended way to back up root pool?

2015-11-09 Thread John D Groenveld
In message , Bob Friesenhahn writes: >It seems easy enough to back up the root pool (via filesystem or zfs >send) but restoring the desired parts on top of a freshly installed >root pool (perhaps based on a fresher OS release) is not

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What is the recommended way to back up root pool?

2015-11-09 Thread David Brodbeck
I hadn't heard of tarsnap before, but I've been using one of the other cloud-based backup services and have been pretty happy with the convenience. I actually have occasionally used it while traveling just as a way to retrieve files I needed off computers that were back home and inaccessible.

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What is the recommended way to back up root pool?

2015-11-09 Thread John D Groenveld
In message , David Brodbeck writes: >I hadn't heard of tarsnap before, but I've been using one of the other >cloud-based backup services and have been pretty happy with the >convenience. I actually have occasionally used it

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What is the recommended way to back up root pool?

2015-11-09 Thread David Brodbeck
On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 11:59 AM, John D Groenveld wrote: > The OP might appreciate more details. > Eh, I didn't want to seem like I was shilling, especially shilling a service that was in direct competition with an OSS system you already mentioned. Anyway, based on

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What is the recommended way to back up root pool?

2015-11-09 Thread John D Groenveld
In message , Bob Friesenhahn writes: >Are people who are backing up their root pools backing it up as a >full replica image, or are they only capturing configuration data? Something like Oracle's zonep2vchk -c would be useful for

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What is the recommended way to back up root pool?

2015-11-09 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 9 Nov 2015, John D Groenveld wrote: Something like Oracle's zonep2vchk -c would be useful for dumping your GZ's configs if you're not capturing that info some other way. Interesting. It would be nice to have a

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What is the recommended way to back up root pool?

2015-11-09 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 9 Nov 2015, David Brodbeck wrote: Anyway, based on earlier comments I'm pretty sure the OP isn't interested in, or in a position to, pay for a subscription service. OP == "Original Poster"? If I am the OP, then my interest is in the best way to preserve and restore root pool

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What is the recommended way to back up root pool?

2015-11-09 Thread David Brodbeck
On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Bob Friesenhahn < bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us> wrote: > On Mon, 9 Nov 2015, David Brodbeck wrote: > >> >> Anyway, based on earlier comments I'm pretty sure the OP isn't interested >> in, or in a position to, pay for a subscription service. >> > > OP == "Original

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What is the recommended way to back up root pool?

2015-11-07 Thread John D Groenveld
In message , David Brodbeck writes: >set up and maintain a puppet server just for a home fileserver. ;) Any tarsnap success or fail stories on this M/L? I recently heard their plug on the BSD Now podcasts with Illumos' Brown

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What is the recommended way to back up root pool?

2015-11-06 Thread Jerry Kemp
On 11/ 6/15 03:27 PM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: Probably the subject line should have been "What is the recommended way to restore configuration from the root pool"? It seems easy enough to back up the root pool (via filesystem or zfs send) but restoring the desired parts on top of a freshly

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What is the recommended way to back up root pool?

2015-11-06 Thread Tim Mooney
In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What is the recommended way to back...: The last thing I ever thought I would do was to speak highly of AIX, the Unix with the equivalent of the Windows registry (ODM database), but AIX has a way to back up and restore an existing (configured) system to

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What is the recommended way to back up root pool?

2015-11-06 Thread David Brodbeck
On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Jerry Kemp wrote: > (Scope) creeping out further, can any of the *BSD's or Lunux distro's do a > full system restore to blank disk? I've usually done it by booting from a LiveCD, and doing the restore from there. I think this is

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What is the recommended way to back up root pool?

2015-11-06 Thread David Brodbeck
On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 5:59 PM, Bob Friesenhahn < bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us> wrote: > Assume that this is for a network server with advanced network > configuration settings, ssh config, zones, etc. > > If was the same as a standard OS install without subsequent configuration, > then backing

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What is the recommended way to back up root pool?

2015-11-06 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Fri, 6 Nov 2015, David Brodbeck wrote: In ye olden days, or on FreeBSD, I'd probably back up /etc (and, on BSD, /usr/local/etc) with rsync and assume that would capture the configuration. With SMF, which is opaque about its config file locations, I suspect that wouldn't do it. I think the

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What is the recommended way to back up root pool?

2015-10-29 Thread Ian Collins
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: What is the recommended approach to back up a zfs root pool? For other pools I use zfs send/receive and/or rsync-based methods. The zfs root pool is different since it contains multiple filesystems, with the filesystem for one one BE being mounted at a time: This

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What is the recommended way to back up root pool?

2015-10-28 Thread Doug Hughes
[OpenIndiana-discuss] What is the recommended way to back up root pool? On Wed, 28 Oct 2015, Doug Hughes wrote: > for home or for office? > for office, I don't back up root pool. it's considered disposible and > reproducible via reinstall. (that plus config management) > for home, you c

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What is the recommended way to back up root pool?

2015-10-28 Thread Doug Hughes
for home or for office? for office, I don't back up root pool. it's considered disposible and reproducible via reinstall. (that plus config management) for home, you can zfs send it somewhere to a file if you want, or you can tar it up since that's probably easier to restore individual files after

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What is the recommended way to back up root pool?

2015-10-28 Thread jason matthews
At home, I do nothing for rpools. I dont even mirror them and I havent even written out a process for recovery. I assume I can just reinstall and re-import any custom xml files for smf that i have archived. for work, i have automation to rebuild rpools but i dont back them up. Here is one

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What is the recommended way to back up root pool?

2015-10-28 Thread jason matthews
never mind, zfs split doesnt work on rpools. j. On 10/28/15 5:08 PM, jason matthews wrote: zfs split may also be undocumented depending on your distribution. j. On 10/28/15 5:08 PM, jason matthews wrote: At home, I do nothing for rpools. I dont even mirror them and I havent even

[OpenIndiana-discuss] What is the recommended way to back up root pool?

2015-10-28 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
What is the recommended approach to back up a zfs root pool? For other pools I use zfs send/receive and/or rsync-based methods. The zfs root pool is different since it contains multiple filesystems, with the filesystem for one one BE being mounted at a time: % zfs list -r -t filesystem rpool

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What is the recommended way to back up root pool?

2015-10-28 Thread jason matthews
zfs split may also be undocumented depending on your distribution. j. On 10/28/15 5:08 PM, jason matthews wrote: At home, I do nothing for rpools. I dont even mirror them and I havent even written out a process for recovery. I assume I can just reinstall and re-import any custom xml

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What is the recommended way to back up root pool?

2015-10-28 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 28 Oct 2015, Doug Hughes wrote: for home or for office? for office, I don't back up root pool. it's considered disposible and reproducible via reinstall. (that plus config management) for home, you can zfs send it somewhere to a file if you want, or you can tar it up since that's

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What is the recommended way to back up root pool?

2015-10-28 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 28 Oct 2015, jason matthews wrote: never mind, zfs split doesnt work on rpools. 'zpool offline -t pool device', 'dd' device image, 'zpool online pool device' would work but it would be a stupid backup and extremely slow if the disk is large. If the other disk failed during this

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What is the recommended way to back up root pool?

2015-10-28 Thread Jason Matthews
Go old school. Use dd to manually mirror two or more identical drives. Apply boot blocks. Nail the boot device in Lsi or bios. J. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 28, 2015, at 5:59 PM, Bob Friesenhahn > wrote: > >> On Wed, 28 Oct 2015, Doug Hughes wrote: >> >>