Re: Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

2016-06-10 Thread Felix Bembrick
I am sorry if this is a question you would prefer not to answer but I believe the answer is significant. I am sure the entire JavaFX community would love to know if Oracle "eats their own dog food" so to speak. Felix On 9 June 2016 at 10:02, Felix Bembrick wrote: > So, if I'm not correct, does

Full speed animation - shouldn't the default value be true?

2016-06-10 Thread Felix Bembrick
I am just curious, why is the system property to enable "full speed animations" in JavaFX applications NOT set to "true" by default? Thanks, Felix

Re: Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

2016-06-10 Thread dalibor topic
I suspect that particular plugin is extremely rarely used, judging by https://github.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=%22javafx-mx.jar%22&type=Code&ref=searchresults showing 0 results. cheers, dalibor topic On 09.06.2016 00:31, Kevin Rushforth wrote: As some of you may be aware, JavaFX has shipped

Re: Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

2016-06-10 Thread Felix Bembrick
I am taking that as a "yes" answer to my original question. On a completely unrelated topic, do Microsoft employees all have Macs on their desktops and carry iPhones and iPads around? No? Well I bet Apple employees do! > On 10 Jun 2016, at 20:01, dalibor topic wrote: > > I suspect that parti

Re: Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

2016-06-10 Thread Tom Schindl
What has the removal of JMX for JavaFX todo with Oracle using JavaFX themselves? There are projects at Oracle who for sure do use JavaFX and one of them is installed in your JDK! It's Java-Mission-Control. Tom On 10.06.16 12:46, Felix Bembrick wrote: > I am taking that as a "yes" answer to my or

Re: Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

2016-06-10 Thread Scott Palmer
I never heard of this until this thread. And after googling I still have no clue what it is. I think that explains some of why it is rarely used. Scott > On Jun 10, 2016, at 6:01 AM, dalibor topic wrote: > > I suspect that particular plugin is extremely rarely used, judging by > https://githu

Re: Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

2016-06-10 Thread Felix Bembrick
Unfortunately, it has a lot to do with it. Do you actually realise how much of the entire JMC is written using JavaFX? (Not to mention what percentage of Java developers even know about or use JMC). Please check and then feel free to respond and enlighten us all with your findings. 100%? At le

Re: Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

2016-06-10 Thread Ranie Jade Ramiso
Okay this thread is about what to do with javafx jmx plugin. How does that even relate to whether oracle is using javafx internally? On Fri, Jun 10, 2016, 7:52 PM Felix Bembrick wrote: > Unfortunately, it has a lot to do with it. > > Do you actually realise how much of the entire JMC is written

Re: Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

2016-06-10 Thread Felix Bembrick
Did you even read the email you are replying to? Or the email I was myself replying to? If I have spell it out so bluntly that everyone can understand then I will only get myself into further trouble with the "Big O". I used a technique known locally as "sarcasm". It's sort of the default mode

Re: Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

2016-06-10 Thread Dalibor Topic
Felix, unfortunately your original question was not parse-able. Before you go on prolonging this thread with more of that, please consider that this mailing list is for discussion of ongoing OpenJFX development. If instead you would prefer to discuss something else, please do try to find a mor

Re: Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

2016-06-10 Thread Felix Bembrick
Dalibor, please forgive me for assuming that Oracle had access to an English language parser. I could translate my original question into Klingon and resubmit if that would help. And thanks so much for pointing out to me that this forum is devoted to "ongoing OpenJFX development". Clearly I wa

In(Sanity) Testing Mondays

2016-06-10 Thread Vadim Pakhnushev
Reminder, Monday is our weekly sanity testing. You can find your testing assignment at: https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/OpenJFX/Sanity+Testing Also please remember that the repo will be locked from 1am PST until 1pm PST. Happy testing! Thanks, Vadim

Re: Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

2016-06-10 Thread Mark Fortner
Back to the original topic, since JMX is used to monitor servers and applications, and since most of us don't write monitoring software, the audience for it is by definition small. I would imagine that Oracle and perhaps a Cisco (or companies involved in network monitoring) would be interested, bu

Proper shutdown of JavaFX if Platform.startup and Platform.setImplicitExit(false) is used (on OS-X)

2016-06-10 Thread Tom Schindl
Hi, In Java9 PlatformImpl.startup was provide as API in Platform which is great but not enough to solve my current problem. Let me start with the following I can not use Application.launch() to bootstrap my OSGi-Application because this would block endless because if the native launching going on

Re: Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

2016-06-10 Thread Felix Bembrick
Kudos on the "imagination" part... You are at least possibly right about Cisco. And your quote "but only if they knew it wasn't going to disappear" is a nice summary of the intent of my reasonable question that never got "officially" answered. But then again, it was somewhat rhetorical in natu