Thank you Pedro.
I’ve admired your work for some time.
Well, it seems we’re all singing the same song.
The question is, who (if anyone) is listening?
> On 19 Dec 2017, at 09:12, Pedro Duque Vieira
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I've been with JavaFX since version 1, also have experience with Swing.
>
Hi,
I've been with JavaFX since version 1, also have experience with Swing.
Been on a number of JavaFX commercial projects, contributed to community
projects like JFxtras, ControlsFX, worked on Scene Builder and also have
some open source JavaFX projects of my own.
Like others said I think buildi
I am not trying to create an OpenJFX repository that is maintained to any
degree
But, in my work on the Robot API I also went ahead and created the
necessary
infrastructure to get OpenJFX building on Appveyor (Windows continuous
integration) and Travis CI (both Linux and macOS continuious integrat
Hi,
first of all I would like to say that I fully agree with everything that
has been
said so far in this thread and I am glad that someone is pushing this long
overdue discussion. Please find my comments inline.
Am 15.12.17 um 10:09 schrieb John-Val Rose:
[...]
This initiative/team/group sho
lf Of
Laurent Bourgès
Sent: 15 December 2017 10:38
To: John-Val Rose
Cc: openjfx-dev@openjdk.java.net Mailing
Subject: Re: Innovation again (was Re: Text classes)
Dear all,
Chris mail motivated me to answer too.
*** For *your* situation, what is JavaFX, how do you want it to evolve and what
Dear all,
Chris mail motivated me to answer too.
*** For *your* situation, what is JavaFX, how do you want it to evolve and
what does it mean to you? ***
I am developping for 10 years scientific desktop apps with Java Swing (+
Java Web Start).
As our users are mostly using linux & macOS, we on
Thanks for that extensive and very insightful response Chris.
Let me make something very clear, just in case people have the wrong idea:
I am not here to complain, stir-up trouble or to criticise anyone. In
fact, I greatly admire the JavaFX team at Oracle and what they are managing
to achieve wit
Hi John,
Here's my $0.02 on JavaFX as someone who's used it for over 4 years in the
JITWatch project (https://github.com/AdoptOpenJDK/jitwatch) and also for
fun with my DemoFX benchmarks (https://github.com/chriswhocodes/DemoFX).
On the whole I think the API is very good. Event handling, layout,
I posted this over a week ago:
> I am willing to work with *anyone* (within Oracle or not) on the features
that the community craves,
> such as those I listed (and any others). Not just because “many hands
make light work” but because
> I don’t know everything (or even close) and I need the knowle
2017-12-06 9:40 GMT+01:00 John-Val Rose :
> Yes, I obviously need to know if anything I work on or design is going to
> be accepted or is even wanted by the community as a whole, and as early on
> in the process as possible. Heck, if I had my way, JavaFX would be used to
> build everything from fo
: Re: Innovation again (was Re: Text classes)
Yes, I obviously need to know if anything I work on or design is going to be
accepted or is even wanted by the community as a whole, and as early on in the
process as possible. Heck, if I had my way, JavaFX would be used to build
everything from
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l enough to be accepted without. Somebody has to decide before filing
> the JEP.
>
> -Markus
>
>
>
> From: Mario Torre [mailto:neugens.limasoftw...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Mittwoch, 6. Dezember 2017 09:11
> To: Markus KARG
> Cc: openjfx-dev@openjdk.java.net
> Subject: Re: Innova
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Subject: Re: Innovation again (was Re: Text classes)
I think Phil said that, the way to propose such changes is to file a Jep and
discuss it here.
Cheers,
Mario
On Wed 6. Dec 2017 at 09:07, Markus KARG wrote:
I think what John actually asked for is whom to send
riginal Message-
> From: openjfx-dev [mailto:openjfx-dev-boun...@openjdk.java.net] On Behalf
> Of Philip Race
> Sent: Mittwoch, 6. Dezember 2017 06:50
> To: John-Val Rose
> Cc: openjfx-dev@openjdk.java.net
> Subject: Re: Innovation again (was Re: Text classes)
>
> There needs
Subject: Re: Innovation again (was Re: Text classes)
There needs to be a viable community that is not just Oracle to support you
here ..
I think everyone has come to be dependent on Oracle to "be there".
But if there is a specific community need that Oracle doesn't see as essential,
the
Absolutely - there needs to be a viable community that is not just Oracle.
So, is there one? If not, how do we build one?
OK, so let me rephrase my earlier email:
I am willing to work with *anyone* (within Oracle or not) on the features that
the community craves, such as those I listed (and any
There needs to be a viable community that is not just Oracle to support
you here ..
I think everyone has come to be dependent on Oracle to "be there".
But if there is a specific community need that Oracle doesn't see as
essential, then the community should help out.
-phil.
On 12/5/17, 9:27 PM
Well, that’s all fine but you didn’t address the issue of working with someone
within Oracle to get these innovations done.
Sure, I could just toil away by myself but clearly it would be better all
around if there was someone with much more extensive knowledge of JavaFX and
its internals who wa
I think looking at it as an Oracle-owned and controlled project maybe
the first mistake here.
Yes it was closed source and then Oracle controlled, but not any more,
OCA requirements aside.
It is not even a "java specification". It can be evolved at an API level
without a JSR.
The JEP process is
Phil et. al.,
Whilst I’m not going to be quite as “passionate” as some on this issue
(although I do understand the frustration), I would like to point out again
that this is indeed a huge gap and it is critical that it is filled ASAP.
Obviously a solution where every word in a text document is
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