Re: Media is now opensource

2013-10-21 Thread Kirill Kirichenko
It will be once we create a 9.0 repo and merge our sandbox with the openjfx repo. Currently we have a working version of Recording/Capture APIs with FXMediaRecorder demo (in apps) implemented on Windows. Linux and Mac implementations are to be done. So expect more to be coming soon. Kirill. O

Re: Media is now opensource

2013-10-19 Thread Kevin Rushforth
https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-33682 Kevin Rushforth wrote: Regarding JMX: Kevin, if it is easy to open it, lets just do it and use it as a starting point. Should be pretty easy. I'll file a JIRA. -- Kevin Richard Bair wrote: That's pretty much it. VP6, T2K, deploy, FX JMX

Re: Media is now opensource

2013-10-19 Thread Kevin Rushforth
Regarding JMX: Kevin, if it is easy to open it, lets just do it and use it as a starting point. Should be pretty easy. I'll file a JIRA. -- Kevin Richard Bair wrote: That's pretty much it. VP6, T2K, deploy, FX JMX tooling. VP6 won't ever be opened because it is licensed 3rd part

Re: Media is now opensource

2013-10-19 Thread Richard Bair
Sweet! See you there. > On Oct 18, 2013, at 5:25 PM, Sven Reimers wrote: > > Put me down as interested Richard. We can chat a bit on it at Devoxx > > Sven > > Am 19.10.2013 02:08 schrieb "Richard Bair" : >> > That's pretty much it. VP6, T2K, deploy, FX JMX tooling. >> >> VP6 won't ever be op

Re: Media is now opensource

2013-10-19 Thread Richard Bair
We don't support it, and frankly there hasn't been any demand. I think along it easier to plug in codecs and letting developers do this (vs having built in support) is the way to go because shipping codecs with the platform (not app) is fraught with legal headaches. > On Oct 18, 2013, at 5:29 P

Re: Media is now opensource

2013-10-18 Thread Felix Bembrick
Does JavaFX support VP8 and, if not, when will it support it? On 19 October 2013 11:16, Richard Bair wrote: > > Is the fact that the VP6 decoder is not included because of a legal > issue? > > Yes, we don't own the code (Google does!) so we can't release it. Google > has opened VP8, the success

Re: Media is now opensource

2013-10-18 Thread Sven Reimers
Put me down as interested Richard. We can chat a bit on it at Devoxx Sven Am 19.10.2013 02:08 schrieb "Richard Bair" : > > That's pretty much it. VP6, T2K, deploy, FX JMX tooling. > > VP6 won't ever be opened because it is licensed 3rd party code. However it > isn't used that much anymore, most

Re: Media is now opensource

2013-10-18 Thread Richard Bair
> Is the fact that the VP6 decoder is not included because of a legal issue? Yes, we don't own the code (Google does!) so we can't release it. Google has opened VP8, the successor to VP6, but not VP6. Richard

Re: Media is now opensource

2013-10-18 Thread Richard Bair
> That's pretty much it. VP6, T2K, deploy, FX JMX tooling. VP6 won't ever be opened because it is licensed 3rd party code. However it isn't used that much anymore, most folks are using h.264. T2K I will come back to. Deploy code (meaning, Applets) is not planned to be open sourced, and I don't

RE: Media is now opensource

2013-10-18 Thread John Smith
t: Re: Media is now opensource All of the JavaFX runtime is open source except for the third-party code that we cannot ship (e.g., the On2 codec that Kirill mentioned, and the T2K font library, for which we have an open replacement), and the FX deploy code, which depends on the JRE deploy

Re: Media is now opensource

2013-10-18 Thread Felix Bembrick
This is really great news! Is the fact that the VP6 decoder is not included because of a legal issue? On 19 October 2013 10:39, Pedro Duque Vieira wrote: > Thanks Kirill, good job. > > You guys had already a working prototype of an app that recorded audio and > video. I wonder if this is also a

Re: Media is now opensource

2013-10-18 Thread Kevin Rushforth
ng else?) -Original Message- From: openjfx-dev-boun...@openjdk.java.net [mailto:openjfx-dev-boun...@openjdk.java.net] On Behalf Of Kirill Kirichenko Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 9:35 AM To: openjfx-dev@openjdk.java.net Subject: Media is now opensource Hello OpenJFXers ! We're happy

RE: Media is now opensource

2013-10-18 Thread Pedro Duque Vieira
Thanks Kirill, good job. You guys had already a working prototype of an app that recorded audio and video. I wonder if this is also available? Thanks, best regards, Hello OpenJFXers ! > We're happy to announce that Media part of JavaFX is now open source. > Opensourcing touched all Media compon

RE: Media is now opensource

2013-10-18 Thread John Smith
October 18, 2013 9:35 AM To: openjfx-dev@openjdk.java.net Subject: Media is now opensource Hello OpenJFXers ! We're happy to announce that Media part of JavaFX is now open source. Opensourcing touched all Media component except ON2 FLV demuxer and VP6 decoder. The decoder will remain clos

Re: Media is now opensource

2013-10-18 Thread Mario Torre
Great news! What's the current state at this point? What is still missing? Cheers, Mario Il 18/ott/2013 18:37 "Kirill Kirichenko" ha scritto: > Hello OpenJFXers ! > We're happy to announce that Media part of JavaFX is now open source. > Opensourcing touched all Media component except ON2 FLV de

Re: Media is now opensource

2013-10-18 Thread Richard Bair
So that this consensus ends up going somewhere, who wants to make this happen? > On Oct 18, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Martin Klähn wrote: > > +1 > Am 18.10.2013 20:55 schrieb "Scott Palmer" : > >> I propose the codecs be made pluggable. The licensing issue can be left >> to the application developer.

Re: Media is now opensource

2013-10-18 Thread Martin Klähn
+1 Am 18.10.2013 20:55 schrieb "Scott Palmer" : > I propose the codecs be made pluggable. The licensing issue can be left > to the application developer. > > https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-2684 > > Once that is in place, support for whatever codec you wish can be added. > FFMPEG could be

Re: Media is now opensource

2013-10-18 Thread Robert Krüger
Absolutely the best option for the platform. If, before such a mechanism is in place, interested parties have an option to do something (even if it is a hack), that's a good thing anyway. On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Scott Palmer wrote: > I propose the codecs be made pluggable. The licensing

Re: Media is now opensource

2013-10-18 Thread Richard Bair
That sounds right to me. On Oct 18, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Scott Palmer wrote: > I propose the codecs be made pluggable. The licensing issue can be left to > the application developer. > > https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-2684 > > Once that is in place, support for whatever codec you wish

Re: Media is now opensource

2013-10-18 Thread Philipp Dörfler
+1 Am 18.10.2013 um 20:53 schrieb Scott Palmer : > I propose the codecs be made pluggable. The licensing issue can be left to > the application developer. > > https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-2684 > > Once that is in place, support for whatever codec you wish can be added. > FFMPEG co

Re: Media is now opensource

2013-10-18 Thread Scott Palmer
I propose the codecs be made pluggable. The licensing issue can be left to the application developer. https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-2684 Once that is in place, support for whatever codec you wish can be added. FFMPEG could be used as an example. I'm against adding any new codecs with

Re: Media is now opensource

2013-10-18 Thread Kirill Kirichenko
Media is very regulated area in legal terms. Using different codecs may involve using and even violating some license agreements. Anyway you're welcome to propose anything. On 18.10.2013 21:37, Robert Krüger wrote: Great news! Does this mean that it is now possible to add support for more dem

Re: Media is now opensource

2013-10-18 Thread Robert Krüger
Great news! Does this mean that it is now possible to add support for more demuxers/decoders e.g. by utilizing stuff from other projects (ffmpeg comes to mind)? On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Kirill Kirichenko wrote: > Hello OpenJFXers ! > We're happy to announce that Media part of JavaFX is n

Re: Media is now opensource

2013-10-18 Thread omathe
Very good job Kirill ! Olivier - Mail original - De: "Stephen F Northover" À: openjfx-dev@openjdk.java.net Envoyé: Vendredi 18 Octobre 2013 19:30:32 Objet: Re: Media is now opensource This is huge! Thanks Kirill. Steve On 2013-10-18 12:35 PM, Kirill Kirichenko wrot

Re: Media is now opensource

2013-10-18 Thread Stephen F Northover
This is huge! Thanks Kirill. Steve On 2013-10-18 12:35 PM, Kirill Kirichenko wrote: Hello OpenJFXers ! We're happy to announce that Media part of JavaFX is now open source. Opensourcing touched all Media component except ON2 FLV demuxer and VP6 decoder. The decoder will remain closed. You'r

Re: Media is now opensource

2013-10-18 Thread Richard Bair
Thanks! This is great news! Richard On Oct 18, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Kirill Kirichenko wrote: > Hello OpenJFXers ! > We're happy to announce that Media part of JavaFX is now open source. > Opensourcing touched all Media component except ON2 FLV demuxer and VP6 > decoder. The decoder will remain c

Re: Media is now opensource

2013-10-18 Thread Joe McGlynn
Spectacular, thanks for your work on this Kirill! On Oct 18, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Kirill Kirichenko wrote: > Hello OpenJFXers ! > We're happy to announce that Media part of JavaFX is now open source. > Opensourcing touched all Media component except ON2 FLV demuxer and VP6 > decoder. The decoder

Media is now opensource

2013-10-18 Thread Kirill Kirichenko
Hello OpenJFXers ! We're happy to announce that Media part of JavaFX is now open source. Opensourcing touched all Media component except ON2 FLV demuxer and VP6 decoder. The decoder will remain closed. You're all welcome to contribute. Thanks, K