Re: JavaFX at JavaOne 2014

2014-06-25 Thread Johan Vos
t; From: openjfx-dev [mailto:openjfx-dev-boun...@openjdk.java.net] On Behalf > Of Herve Girod > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 8:20 AM > To: Pedro Duque Vieira > Cc: OpenJFX Mailing List > Subject: Re: JavaFX at JavaOne 2014 > > There are no reasons that JavaFX could not work well on mobile

RE: JavaFX at JavaOne 2014

2014-06-24 Thread John Smith
when an app is installed on the device. -Original Message- From: Scott Palmer [mailto:swpal...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 5:46 PM To: John Smith Cc: Herve Girod; Pedro Duque Vieira; OpenJFX Mailing List Subject: Re: JavaFX at JavaOne 2014 That first article was so wrong about

Re: JavaFX at JavaOne 2014

2014-06-23 Thread Scott Palmer
That first article was so wrong about nearly everything mentioned in it that it made me want to vomit. On Jun 23, 2014, at 2:31 PM, John Smith wrote: > I don't know much about Android, but does it have to be a VM, or could you > use ART or an ART equivalent: > > http://www.extremetech.com/c

RE: JavaFX at JavaOne 2014

2014-06-23 Thread John Smith
alvik/art.html John -Original Message- From: openjfx-dev [mailto:openjfx-dev-boun...@openjdk.java.net] On Behalf Of Herve Girod Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 8:20 AM To: Pedro Duque Vieira Cc: OpenJFX Mailing List Subject: Re: JavaFX at JavaOne 2014 There are no reasons that JavaFX could not work

Re: JavaFX at JavaOne 2014

2014-06-23 Thread Mike Hearn
> > There are no reasons that JavaFX could not work well on mobile platforms, > providing there is a JVM. I was convinced that mobile UI toolkits were very > specific, but it's really not the case. Android UI Toolkit has really very > few mobile specificities for example. > It's not so much the to

Re: JavaFX at JavaOne 2014

2014-06-23 Thread Jeff Martin
Is it wrong to ask who makes this decision at Oracle? What person, persons or Star Chamber decides to dedicate resources to say graphing or 3D instead of iOS and Android? What gets you laughed at and discredited for suggesting JFX to a boss or customer is definitely the lack of a mobile "story"

Re: JavaFX at JavaOne 2014

2014-06-23 Thread Herve Girod
There are no reasons that JavaFX could not work well on mobile platforms, providing there is a JVM. I was convinced that mobile UI toolkits were very specific, but it's really not the case. Android UI Toolkit has really very few mobile specificities for example. 2014-06-23 16:46 GMT+02:00 Pedro D

Re: JavaFX at JavaOne 2014

2014-06-23 Thread Pedro Duque Vieira
> > People have tried HTML5 as a way to create apps for mobile platforms. Most > of the big names who tried this e.g. Facebook have abandoned it. They've abandoned it but not because of the reasons you imply but rather due to HTML5 limitations of providing a good native experience in regards to pe

Re: JavaFX at JavaOne 2014

2014-06-23 Thread Felix Bembrick
Community members such as Gerrit Grunwald have already demonstrated an application with a single JavaFX code base running on Windows, MacOS, Linux, Android, iOS and even Raspberry Pi. BTW, I totally disagree with you on your comments about the similarities of the desktop UIs and some sort of uniqu

Re: JavaFX at JavaOne 2014

2014-06-23 Thread Mike Hearn
> > If it is correct that JavaFX won't be supporting iOS or Android > (officially), IMO JavaFX will start fading away as soon as there is a > reliable technology that can create apps for all platforms. People have tried HTML5 as a way to create apps for mobile platforms. Most of the big names who

Re: JavaFX at JavaOne 2014

2014-06-20 Thread Felix Bembrick
Let's be a little bit more positive here guys... >From the link I posted you can see that there is a ton of JavaFX content at JavaOne this year which is a very. very good sign in itself. And, as I said, both iOS and Android are mentioned with featured sessions. This is *new* in the sense that th

Re: JavaFX at JavaOne 2014

2014-06-20 Thread Mike
Don't expect anything from Oracle related to IOS and Android other than some code contributions. They have said ADF Mobile / Jdeveloper (etc) will suffer financially if Oracle supports IOS and Android directly. On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Pedro Duque Vieira < pedro.duquevie...@gmail.com> wro

Re: JavaFX at JavaOne 2014

2014-06-20 Thread Pedro Duque Vieira
Unfortunately there's nothing new and no Oracle sessions on that subject - javafx on ios and/or android... :( -- Pedro Duque Vieira

Re: JavaFX at JavaOne 2014

2014-06-19 Thread Felix Bembrick
Gosh, that formatted badly. Here's a link to the actual list: https://oracleus.activeevents.com/2014/connect/search.ww?eventRef=javaone#loadSearch-event=null&searchPhrase=JavaOne%2C+JavaFX&searchType=session&tc=0&sortBy=&p=&i(10009)=10111 On 19 June 2014 20:09, Felix Bembrick wrote: > There'