[Opensim-dev] Presenting unga: UGAIM grid servers with PHP

2010-04-02 Thread Impalah Shenzhou
Hi: For those of you who could be interested I have uploaded to sourceforge the code and documentation for unga, my UGAIM server projects programmed in PHP and based on Code Igniter framework. I haven't finished yet all the testing, but is 100% operative for Apache (windows & *IX) and php 5.2.X (

Re: [Opensim-dev] Presenting unga: UGAIM grid servers with PHP

2010-04-07 Thread Jeroen van Veen
Impalah, How does unga compare to simian? Does it use it's own connectors? About writing for django/tornado: i'm currently writing a webfrontend(hwios, http://forge.opensimulator.org/gf/project/hwios/) with python/django and twisted(comparable to tornado), and have done alot of basic stuff so f

Re: [Opensim-dev] Presenting unga: UGAIM grid servers with PHP

2010-04-07 Thread Impalah Shenzhou
Hi, unga is another support system for opensimulators, like robust (former ugaim) or simian. I haven't tested simian (I only know the documentation on google code) so I can't compare them :-( ¿Connectors? Well, the same as robust, by now. Only http connectors (REST, xml-rpc and so on). The web se

Re: [Opensim-dev] Presenting unga: UGAIM grid servers with PHP

2010-04-07 Thread Michael Cerquoni
One problem i see with this, is that from the OpenSimulator perspective, UGAIM has been removed from the code and Replaced with ROBUST services, which are vastly different. It seems like a huge mistake to try to replicate something thats no longer being used, are your plans to bring this up to a R

Re: [Opensim-dev] Presenting unga: UGAIM grid servers with PHP

2010-04-07 Thread Impalah Shenzhou
Hi, Which are the differences on the published public interfaces between old UGAIM and ROBUST? Maybe I'm totally wrong but I can't see anyone: both use http, both use xml-rpc/REST/DAV/whatever. The way it does its job is irrelevant. ugaim and robust both are serving http. If you need an asset th

Re: [Opensim-dev] Presenting unga: UGAIM grid servers with PHP

2010-04-07 Thread Michael Cerquoni
I don't know all the of the differences honestly, I was not trying to discourage you from doing it, but i do know that the older versions of OpenSimulator that conneceted to the C# UGAIM services will no longer connect to C# Robust Backed services, my only concern was you might spend a lot of time

Re: [Opensim-dev] Presenting unga: UGAIM grid servers with PHP

2010-04-07 Thread Impalah Shenzhou
Please excuse my "violent" reaction. I misunderstood your comments. As soon as I have some free time (I suppose, for the weekend) I will test unga with the newer (development) opensim versions. According to the wiki there shouldn't be any problem, but maybe I forgot some needed interface. Take in

Re: [Opensim-dev] Presenting unga: UGAIM grid servers with PHP

2010-04-07 Thread Salahzar Stenvaag
Impalah, I'm very curious if you can do some testing in performance php Vs c# it might be even possible that php is more performant than c# and so more scalable. If your php sources are easy enough to be understandable it might be used for educational purposes, i.e. to teach people how opensim work

Re: [Opensim-dev] Presenting unga: UGAIM grid servers with PHP

2010-04-07 Thread ssm2017
for my opinion (i like to give opinion when nobody is aking me :)) instead of building a parralel dev for opensim<->php, maybe this can be better to help simiangrid enhancements the interest of unga is to be compatible with versions < 0.7 but for 0.7+ this can be better to use simiangrid 2010/4/7

Re: [Opensim-dev] Presenting unga: UGAIM grid servers with PHP

2010-04-07 Thread Impalah Shenzhou
The tests shouldn't be php vs c#, I think. PHP can be deployed on apache, lighttpd, iss... can be used mod_php or cgi/fastcgi and this can affect performance and code caches like apc or zend can be used to provide something like bytecode. For testing http I will use apache "ab". The easier tests c

Re: [Opensim-dev] Presenting unga: UGAIM grid servers with PHP

2010-04-07 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
Impalah Shenzhou wrote: Please excuse my "violent" reaction. I misunderstood your comments. As soon as I have some free time (I suppose, for the weekend) I will test unga with the newer (development) opensim versions. According to the wiki there shouldn't be any problem, but maybe I forgot som

Re: [Opensim-dev] Presenting unga: UGAIM grid servers with PHP

2010-04-07 Thread Impalah Shenzhou
That's what I wanted to say, but my drawing abilities are non-existent :-P The "support" services for opensim can be anything while they use http and implement the methods the simulator needs. Anyway, I repeat, unga is just another option. Cheers 2010/4/8 Justin Clark-Casey > Impalah Shenzho

Re: [Opensim-dev] Presenting unga: UGAIM grid servers with PHP

2010-04-08 Thread Diva Canto
Hi, "The methods the simulator needs" have changed considerably from 0.6.x to pre-0.7. Hence the good advice that many people have voiced that you look into what's coming rather than looking into the past. Looking into what's coming means looking in pre-0.7 code, OpenSim.Services.Interfaces -

Re: [Opensim-dev] Presenting unga: UGAIM grid servers with PHP

2010-04-08 Thread Impalah Shenzhou
Thanks for the advices Diva :-) Actually I prefer to make unga compatible with robust implementation. From my point of view robust is the standard into the opensim core and I am not designing a new architecture for support servers... yet :-P Cheers 2010/4/8 Diva Canto > Hi, > > "The methods

Re: [Opensim-dev] Presenting unga: UGAIM grid servers with PHP

2010-04-08 Thread Impalah Shenzhou
Wow! Things changed a lot! (and they improved using REST). I really like the refactoring, things are clear as water. Just a question, about logins: the old "login_to_simulator" xml-rpc call is the only one that "sl compatible" viewers launch, isn't it? This is the only one that a grid (or auth ser

Re: [Opensim-dev] Presenting unga: UGAIM grid servers with PHP

2010-04-08 Thread Impalah Shenzhou
Ups! forget that, it has been answered weeks ago... Sorry 2010/4/9 Impalah Shenzhou > Wow! Things changed a lot! (and they improved using REST). I really like > the refactoring, things are clear as water. > > Just a question, about logins: the old "login_to_simulator" xml-rpc call is > the onl