Hi all,
the current system for handling region-modules is slightly broken if
you add/remove regions dynamically (or even for region-restarts). I've
put up some thoughts at
http://opensimulator.org/wiki/New_Region_Modules for discussion.
Please answer on the associated 'discussion' page or here on
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Homer Horwitz
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> the current system for handling region-modules is slightly broken if
> you add/remove regions dynamically (or even for region-restarts). I've
> put up some thoughts at
> http://opensimulator.org/wiki/New_Region_Modules for discus
I have to say I'm not a big fan of what I've seen of mono.addins so far. Maybe
ExtensionLoader is better, so I do think we should look at that. As I think it
is better to only have one system of loading plugins/modules.
As for initialise vs Initialize, hehe. Well personally I think it should st
I'm not really a fan of UK zpelling,,, but I imagine people uzing grep could
zearch for "initiali"
I'll probably continue to uze the UZ englizh zpelling in my code ;)
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 4:32 PM, MW wrote:
> I have to say I'm not a big fan of what I've seen of mono.addins so far.
> Maybe Ex
Lets change it all over to l337..but, the UK base.
I|\|I7I41I53
-T
On 1/24/09, Dahlia Trimble wrote:
> I'm not really a fan of UK zpelling,,, but I imagine people uzing grep could
> zearch for "initiali"
>
> I'll probably continue to uze the UZ englizh zpelling in my code ;)
>
>
> On Sat, J
+1 . so problem solved, and Teravus will start the conversion straight away.
Teravus Ovares wrote: Lets change it all over to l337..
but, the UK base.
I|\|I7I41I53
-T
On 1/24/09, Dahlia Trimble wrote:
> I'm not really a fan of UK zpelling,,, but I imagine people uzing grep could
> zearch
But it is in our code standards somewhere that we use UK spelling in opensim
code. ;) Or it used to be in there.
But no I don't think really we can force people to use a different system of
spelling to what they are used to. As I feel as strong about not liking the US
spelling as you do about
bMW wrote:
> But it is in our code standards somewhere that we use UK spelling in opensim
> code. ;) Or it used to be in there.
>
> But no I don't think really we can force people to use a different system of
> spelling to what they are used to. As I feel as strong about not liking the
> US s
ROFL. Oh, it was the 'z' versus the 's' you were discussing.
I thought it was the "i" versus the "I".
From: Dahlia Trimble
To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 4:39:03 PM
Subject:
Hello,
I think the new region module spec sounds pretty good, though TBH I'm
not intimately familiar with the current situation. A couple
thoughts:
For a non-shared module, is there a functional difference between
Initialise and AddRegion? Likewise with RemoveRegion and Close.
For shared modul
ary 2009 12:04 PM
> To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de
> Subject: [Opensim-dev] Proposal for a cleanup/correction of the region-
> module system
>
> Hi all,
>
> the current system for handling region-modules is slightly broken if
> you add/remove regions dynamically (or
-dev] Proposal for a cleanup/correction of the
region-module system
But it is in our code standards somewhere that we use UK spelling in opensim
code. ;) Or it used to be in there.
But no I don't think really we can force people to use a different system of
spelling to what they are used t
> For shared modules, is there some technical reason or use case that
> requires a PostInitialise after Initialise? The only case I can think
> of is interdependent region modules that need each other to be
> initialized before they can add regions.
[Frisby, Adam]
Close - it's more so you can s
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 3:33 AM, Jeff Ames wrote:
>...
> For a non-shared module, is there a functional difference between
> Initialise and AddRegion? Likewise with RemoveRegion and Close.
Registration happens in Initialise, so when the AddRegion call happens, all the
modules are available alread
Yeah I wasn't really being serious that we should try to get as many spelling
systems or langauges as we can.
So I do agree that it would be best to have one, but its hard to force people
to use one system if that is different to what they are used to. Its just
natural to spell as you normally
m-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de
[mailto:opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of MW
Sent: Saturday, 24 January 2009 4:56 PM
To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de
Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Proposal for a cleanup/correction of the
region-module system
But it is in our code
turday, 24 January 2009 4:56 PM
> To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de
> Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Proposal for a cleanup/correction of the
> region-module system
>
> But it is in our code standards somewhere that we use UK spelling in opensim
> code. ;) Or it used to be in there.
>
> But
My apologies for thread-jacking...
I just want to be clear I didn't propose it because I came later and
decided I didn't like UK spelling. I am Canadian and historically
Canadians have used UK spelling.
I proposed it for the same reason (US) English is the standard
language of all things internat
Hmm.. whenever someone brings up "an issue of common
standards, professionalism, code quality, and cooperation", I get
suspitious.. what might he 'really' be trying to do? *cough*..
anyway.
Wasn't there some kind of coding standards document on the wiki?
ohai! , it's here: http://opensimulat
On that page it did use to say we used UK spelling, but that seems to have got
lost through time.
On this whole subject I do think we should stay with Uk spelling, but I don't
see it as that big a deal, if we all decide to swap to US spellings then so be
it.
But I don't agree that US spelling
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Teravus Ovares wrote:
> Hmm.. whenever someone brings up "an issue of common
> standards, professionalism, code quality, and cooperation", I get
> suspitious.. what might he 'really' be trying to do? *cough*..
> anyway.
Software Engineering?
>
> Wasn't the
; I can get our Shanghai office to translate our comments into Cantonese if
> that would help. J
>
>
> From: opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de
> [mailto:opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of
> MW
> Sent: Saturday, 24 January 2009 4:56 PM
> To: opensim-dev@lists
As this thread has been thoroughly hijacked, I guess there aren't any
further relevant (um, I meant technical) problems with the proposal?
Cheers,
Homer
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MW wrote:
> Yeah I wasn't really being serious that we should try to get as many spelling
> systems or langauges as we can.
>
> So I do agree that it would be best to have one, but its hard to force people
> to use one system if that is different to what they are used to. Its just
> natural to
Homer Horwitz wrote:
> As this thread has been thoroughly hijacked, I guess there aren't any
> further relevant (um, I meant technical) problems with the proposal?
>
Could you wait a couple more days on this? I don't really have the opportunity
to give this the attention that it
deserves today
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Justin Clark-Casey
wrote:
> Could you wait a couple more days on this? I don't really have the
> opportunity to give this the attention that it
> deserves today (Sunday) and I may not be around at all tomorrow but I should
> have some think time on Tuesday.
>
>
Homer Horwitz wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Justin Clark-Casey
> wrote:
>> Could you wait a couple more days on this? I don't really have the
>> opportunity to give this the attention that it
>> deserves today (Sunday) and I may not be around at all tomorrow but I should
>> have som
Sounds good to me. If as it is, is really causing problems.
Sean Dague wrote: MW wrote:
> Yeah I wasn't really being serious that we should try to get as many spelling
> systems or langauges as we can.
>
> So I do agree that it would be best to have one, but its hard to force people
> to use o
actually should we wait a while and get more reaction. As this is going to
effect anyone who has a module that isn't in trunk. Seems a lot of hasle for
such a small thing.
Would seem better to wait and make the change when/if we change to homer's new
module interface.
MW wrote: Sounds good to
MW wrote:
> actually should we wait a while and get more reaction. As this is going to
> effect anyone who has a module that isn't in trunk. Seems a lot of hasle for
> such a small thing.
>
> Would seem better to wait and make the change when/if we change to homer's
> new module interface.
Yes
Hi,
On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:59:26 +0200
Ryan McDougall wrote:
> 1. Can we unify RegionModules with IPlugin system I did a while ago?
> This would mean learning and using Mono.Addins, or ExtensionLoader if
> that is Mono.Addins's replacement.
I'd like to suggest sticking with Mono.Addins.
While
Re: [Opensim-dev] Proposal for a
cleanup/correction of the region-module system> > MW wrote:> > actually should
we wait a while and get more reaction. As this is going to effect anyone who
has a module that isn't in trunk. Seems a lot of hasle for such a small thing.>
> >
MW wrote:
> I have to say I'm not a big fan of what I've seen of mono.addins so far.
> Maybe ExtensionLoader is better, so I do think we should look at that.
> As I think it is better to only have one system of loading plugins/modules.
>
> As for initialise vs Initialize, hehe. Well personally I t
Charles Krinke wrote:
> ROFL. Oh, it was the 'z' versus the 's' you were discussing.
>
> I thought it was the "i" versus the "I".
ROFL. yeah, i can imagine there are folks out there that object to the capital
"I" as being too capitalistic...
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Ryan McDougall wrote:
> My apologies for thread-jacking...
>
> I just want to be clear I didn't propose it because I came later and
> decided I didn't like UK spelling. I am Canadian and historically
> Canadians have used UK spelling.
>
> I proposed it for the same reason (US) English is the stan
But do we standardize on one variant or standardise on that?
Sorry couldn't stop myself :)
Dr Scofield wrote: Ryan McDougall wrote:
> My apologies for thread-jacking...
>
> I just want to be clear I didn't propose it because I came later and
> decided I didn't like UK spelling. I am Canadian an
for a cleanup/correction of the
region-module system
MW wrote:
> But do we standardize on one variant or standardise on that?
>
> Sorry couldn't stop myself :)
that was a test :-) or was that a tezt? :-D
DrS/dirk
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MW wrote:
> But do we standardize on one variant or standardise on that?
>
> Sorry couldn't stop myself :)
that was a test :-) or was that a tezt? :-D
DrS/dirk
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SL: dr scofield drscofi...@xyzzyxyzzy.net
This is more to do with how we use Mono.Addins, but we really should make it a
lot easier to separate the various UGAIM servers, so that each one can be in
its own directory without needing the other UGAIM exe's to be in there.
By default we have the loading of plugins referencing all the UGAIM
I think it was a te5t not a te2t
:)
Dr Scofield wrote:
MW wrote:
But do we standardize on one variant or standardise on that?
Sorry couldn't stop myself :)
that was a test :-) or was that a tezt? :-D
DrS/dirk
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Ideia Boa wrote:
> I think it was a te5t not a te2t
> :)
oop5, m3 b4d.
Dr5/d1rk
>
>
> Dr Scofield wrote:
>> MW wrote:
>>
>>> But do we standardize on one variant or standardise on that?
>>>
>>> Sorry couldn't stop myself :)
>>>
>>
>> that was a test :-) or was that a tezt? :-D
>
Homer Horwitz wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> the current system for handling region-modules is slightly broken if
> you add/remove regions dynamically (or even for region-restarts). I've
> put up some thoughts at
> http://opensimulator.org/wiki/New_Region_Modules for discussion.
> Please answer on the assoc
Ok, I'll try to summarize a bit:
Sean had the great idea to use a dialect-independent way of naming our
methods: I'll use Init and PostInit :-)
Justin wondered whether we need an Init* method at all or if we just
could init on first region-add. The benefit of a separate Init +
PostInit method is,
Homer Horwitz wrote:
> Ok, I'll try to summarize a bit:
>
> Sean had the great idea to use a dialect-independent way of naming our
> methods: I'll use Init and PostInit :-)
>
> Justin wondered whether we need an Init* method at all or if we just
> could init on first region-add. The benefit of a
Hi,
PostInitialise is extremely important, because it is called at a
time when all modules' Initialise has been run. That means, all
modules have registered their interfaces and
RequestModuleInterface<>() is safe to use in PostInitialise _only_
in a module context. Several existing implementat
Hi,
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 18:51:33 +0100
Homer Horwitz wrote:
> We need a possibility to disable modules (preferably without first
> loading them) without removing the *.dll; and there were some wishes
> about the loader, pro and contra Mono.Addins. I think I'll have a look
> at Mono.Addins (inclu
Hi,
On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:00:31 + (GMT)
MW wrote:
> This is more to do with how we use Mono.Addins, but we really should
> make it a lot easier to separate the various UGAIM servers, so that
> each one can be in its own directory without needing the other UGAIM
> exe's to be in there.
>
>
ridge.GetConfigSourceName();
Best regards,
Stefan Andersson
Tribal Media AB
> From: a...@deepthink.com.au
> To: homer.horw...@gmail.com; opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de
> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:37:01 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Proposal for a cleanup/correction of the
> regio
gt; Best regards,
> Stefan Andersson
> Tribal Media AB
>
>
>
>
>> From: a...@deepthink.com.au
>> To: homer.horw...@gmail.com; opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de
>> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:37:01 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Proposal for a cleanup/corr
string IConfigBridge.GetConfigSectionName();
>>
>> string IConfigBridge.GetConfigSourceName();
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Stefan Andersson
>> Tribal Media AB
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: a...@deepthink.com.au
>>> To: homer.horw...@
Melanie wrote:
> I'm not happy with that. I see no evil in the nini references and I
> like the option of using nin for private config files outside of
> OpenSim.ini.
>
> Also, I have several modules that read the config from another
> module, so they need to be able to address sections.
>
> L
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