Integrate lftp into Solaris [PSARC/2008/276 FastTrack timeout 05/02/2008]

2008-05-07 Thread Dan Hain
Since no one objected and the timer ran out, I marked this case as 'closed approved' in the IAM file. Dan Daniel Hain wrote: > I am sponsoring this case for Martina Tomisova. Timeout is set for 5/02/2008. > Man pages and the default configuration file are in the case directory. > > > Template V

Integrate lftp into Solaris [PSARC/2008/276 FastTrack timeout

2008-05-03 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
[...] > In my mind, EVERY SINGLE FOSS project out there[1] > should be available > in a repository, in ready-to-run binary form, waiting > for someone who > needs it to download on their OpenSolaris system. > > Now, if you were saying "only *some of them* should > be considered > candidates to bec

Integrate lftp into Solaris [PSARC/2008/276 FastTrack timeout 05/02/2008]

2008-05-02 Thread martina tomisova - Sun Microsystems - Prague Czech Republic
Hi, >1) What is the FISH protocol? (Never heard of it.) Citation from wikipedia: FIles transferred over SHell protocol is a protocol to use SSH or RSH to transfer files between computers and manage remote files. The advantage of FISH is that all it requires on the server-side is an SSH or

Integrate lftp into Solaris [PSARC/2008/276 FastTrack timeout 05/02/2008]

2008-04-25 Thread Garrett D'Amore
John Plocher wrote: > Garrett D'Amore wrote: >> bloat > > Think of the compiler world, where there are the concepts of > "part of the compiler", "part of the hosting OS", "add-on > features and libraries" and "customer provided stuff". > > In the OS world, this concept might result in the followin

Integrate lftp into Solaris [PSARC/2008/276 FastTrack timeout 05/02/2008]

2008-04-25 Thread John Plocher
Garrett D'Amore wrote: > bloat Think of the compiler world, where there are the concepts of "part of the compiler", "part of the hosting OS", "add-on features and libraries" and "customer provided stuff". In the OS world, this concept might result in the following classifications: A) "part of

Integrate lftp into Solaris [PSARC/2008/276 FastTrack timeout 05/02/2008]

2008-04-25 Thread Garrett D'Amore
Bart Smaalders wrote: > Garrett D'Amore wrote: > >> >> (I am one of those developers -- and I think I'm in the minority here >> -- that actually cares about bloat, and believes that systems should >> get faster, not slower, as time goes on. In other words I believe >> that the fight against the

Integrate lftp into Solaris [PSARC/2008/276 FastTrack timeout 05/02/2008]

2008-04-25 Thread Bart Smaalders
Garrett D'Amore wrote: > > (I am one of those developers -- and I think I'm in the minority here -- > that actually cares about bloat, and believes that systems should get > faster, not slower, as time goes on. In other words I believe that the > fight against the tendency of system software

Integrate lftp into Solaris [PSARC/2008/276 FastTrack timeout 05/02/2008]

2008-04-25 Thread Garrett D'Amore
Gary Winiger wrote: >> Garrett D'Amore wrote: >> >>> And the rationale is quite simple -- more code in Solaris == more >>> effort to sustain, support, larger install image, bigger download, >>> generally more "bloat". >>> >> I disagree. >> >> I strongly *suspect* it is less effort to

Integrate lftp into Solaris [PSARC/2008/276 FastTrack timeout 05/02/2008]

2008-04-25 Thread Gary Winiger
> Garrett D'Amore wrote: > > And the rationale is quite simple -- more code in Solaris == more > > effort to sustain, support, larger install image, bigger download, > > generally more "bloat". > I disagree. > > I strongly *suspect* it is less effort to "sustain, support" the > plethora of FOSS

Integrate lftp into Solaris [PSARC/2008/276 FastTrack timeout 05/02/2008]

2008-04-25 Thread Dan Hain
Gary Winiger wrote: Release bind is Micro. >> Deliverables: >> /etc/lftp.conf >> > > Why is there a /etc file? What is the file used for? > What is the administrative interface for this file? > This provides default configuration options for lftp. It requires root acc

Integrate lftp into Solaris [PSARC/2008/276 FastTrack timeout 05/02/2008]

2008-04-25 Thread Garrett D'Amore
I don't think Gary said that the binding had to be major, only that in the absence of a release binding specified by the project, what can we assume? Major is the only "safe" assumption because it has no compatibility requirements. If the project team doesn't like a Major binding (and I agree

Integrate lftp into Solaris [PSARC/2008/276 FastTrack timeout 05/02/2008]

2008-04-25 Thread Garrett D'Amore
John Plocher wrote: > Garrett D'Amore wrote: >> Checking the lftp site, it seems that lftp is perhaps superior to >> ncftp in some ways. >> I wonder though, is it possible to write a wrapper for lftp so that >> it can emulate ncftp? I'm all for taking the latest improvements >> from the open s

Integrate lftp into Solaris [PSARC/2008/276 FastTrack timeout 05/02/2008]

2008-04-25 Thread John Plocher
Gary Winiger wrote: > And the Release Binding is? How about Major? In this case, why would Major be a requirement? (he asks naively, trying to inject architectural clarity into this type of conversation...) Personally, I see nothing in this case that would require a major release. It make

Integrate lftp into Solaris [PSARC/2008/276 FastTrack timeout 05/02/2008]

2008-04-25 Thread John Plocher
Garrett D'Amore wrote: > Checking the lftp site, it seems that lftp is perhaps superior to ncftp > in some ways. > > I wonder though, is it possible to write a wrapper for lftp so that it > can emulate ncftp? I'm all for taking the latest improvements from the > open source community, but I

Integrate lftp into Solaris [PSARC/2008/276 FastTrack timeout 05/02/2008]

2008-04-25 Thread Gary Winiger
Sorry for the number of these comments. I should have done them all at once ;-) > Deliverables: What about the tutorial? http://tutorials.papamike.ca/pub/lftp.html It seem like it would be useful to ship. I presume Martina will be joining the lftp commun

Integrate lftp into Solaris [PSARC/2008/276 FastTrack timeout 05/02/2008]

2008-04-25 Thread Gary Winiger
> 6. Resources and Schedule > 6.4. Steering Committee requested information > 6.4.1. Consolidation C-team Name: > sfw > 6.5. ARC review type: FastTrack > 6.6. ARC Exposure: open And the Release Binding is? How about Major? Gary..

Integrate lftp into Solaris [PSARC/2008/276 FastTrack timeout 05/02/2008]

2008-04-25 Thread Gary Winiger
> Deliverables: > /etc/lftp.conf Why is there a /etc file? What is the file used for? What is the administrative interface for this file? > /usr/share/man/man1/lftp.1 > /usr/share/man/man1/lftpget.1 It seems the materials are incomplete. These are not

Integrate lftp into Solaris [PSARC/2008/276 FastTrack timeout 05/02/2008]

2008-04-25 Thread Garrett D'Amore
Checking the lftp site, it seems that lftp is perhaps superior to ncftp in some ways. I wonder though, is it possible to write a wrapper for lftp so that it can emulate ncftp? I'm all for taking the latest improvements from the open source community, but I still think it would be "nice" to m

Integrate lftp into Solaris [PSARC/2008/276 FastTrack timeout 05/02/2008]

2008-04-25 Thread Joseph Kowalski
Bart Smaalders wrote: > Please stop. What part of software repository do you not understand? The part about it not being part of Solaris 10 or Nevada perhaps? :-) Talk about "histrionics",... There is no case log for Indiana. - jek3

Integrate lftp into Solaris [PSARC/2008/276 FastTrack timeout 05/02/2008]

2008-04-25 Thread Daniel Hain
I am sponsoring this case for Martina Tomisova. Timeout is set for 5/02/2008. Man pages and the default configuration file are in the case directory. Template Version: @(#)sac_nextcase 1.66 04/17/08 SMI This information is Copyright 2008 Sun Microsystems 1. Introduction 1.1. Project/Componen

Integrate lftp into Solaris [PSARC/2008/276 FastTrack timeout 05/02/2008]

2008-04-25 Thread Joseph Kowalski
Garrett D'Amore wrote: > And the rationale is quite simple -- more code in Solaris == more > effort to sustain, support, larger install image, bigger download, > generally more "bloat". I disagree. I strongly *suspect* it is less effort to "sustain, support" the plethora of FOSS ftp versions by