Re: [Fwd: Re: [osol-code] ON build 18 is available]

2005-07-26 Thread Robert W. Fuller
Sweet. I withdraw my complaint. Ian Collins wrote: > Robert W. Fuller wrote: > >> This is a community project, right? Therefore, I should want to reply >> to the >> list by default. Do I want to bother the original sender with two >> copies, one >> through the list, and one direct? >> >> >>

Re: [Fwd: Re: [osol-code] ON build 18 is available]

2005-07-26 Thread Robert W. Fuller
Dan Mick wrote: > Not gonna fight this. See the many web refs. The way it is now, you > easily This is a logical fallacy is it not? Informally, some people call it bandwagon. I won't bother to dig the Latin up out of google :-p ___ opensolaris-code m

Re: [Fwd: Re: [osol-code] ON build 18 is available]

2005-07-26 Thread Ian Collins
Robert W. Fuller wrote: This is a community project, right? Therefore, I should want to reply to the list by default. Do I want to bother the original sender with two copies, one through the list, and one direct? It doesn't work that way, as you can see, you only get one copy. Ian __

Re: [Fwd: Re: [osol-code] ON build 18 is available]

2005-07-26 Thread Dan Mick
Robert W. Fuller wrote: This is a community project, right? Therefore, I should want to reply to the list by default. Do I want to bother the original sender with two copies, one through the list, and one direct? Not gonna fight this. See the many web refs. The way it is now, you easily hav

Re: [Fwd: Re: [osol-code] ON build 18 is available]

2005-07-26 Thread Robert W. Fuller
This is a community project, right? Therefore, I should want to reply to the list by default. Do I want to bother the original sender with two copies, one through the list, and one direct? Thank you for the clarification on all these build numbers floating around. Dan Mick wrote: > You want to

Re: [osol-code] Re: Library Question

2005-07-26 Thread Jonathan Adams
On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 01:11:04PM -0700, Jonathan Adams wrote: > On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 11:34:09AM -0700, Jonathan Adams wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 11:18:36AM -0700, J?rgen Keil wrote: > > > I'm not 100% sure if it's still important to mark shared libraries > > > with the execute bit with

[osol-code] Re: [osol-discuss] On ksh and compatibility

2005-07-26 Thread Eric Boutilier
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Eric Boutilier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, 26 Jul 2005, Keith M Wesolowski wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 02:43:02PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > > > > > > We have either _no_ ksh in OpenSolaris or we have ksh93. > > > > > > Plea

[osol-code] Re: [osol-discuss] On ksh and compatibility

2005-07-26 Thread Eric Boutilier
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005, Keith M Wesolowski wrote: > On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 02:43:02PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > > We have either _no_ ksh in OpenSolaris or we have ksh93. > > Please take time out and think about what you're suggesting. Keith -- when Joerg says OpenSolaris here, I think he's

Re: [osol-code] Library Question

2005-07-26 Thread Rod Evans
Shawn Walker wrote: The question then is whether or not there is any continued point in setting the executable bit? I mean, why bother setting it if it's unnecessary? On the chance that some ancient ye olde customer software will break? Not that it really matters, just curious :) I trawled

Re: [osol-code] Library Question

2005-07-26 Thread Rod Evans
Peter Memishian wrote: > I've always wondered...why are shared libraries installed under *NIX > operating systems with the executable bit set? They seem to work > regardless of whether the bit is set or not. I'm sure there's > something I'm missing, but after a few hours of searching I can't

Re: [osol-code] Re: Library Question

2005-07-26 Thread Jonathan Adams
On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 11:34:09AM -0700, Jonathan Adams wrote: > On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 11:18:36AM -0700, J?rgen Keil wrote: > > I'm not 100% sure if it's still important to mark shared libraries > > with the execute bit with current Solaris 10 or OpenSolaris. It > > seems the kernel is now usin

Re: [Fwd: Re: [osol-code] ON build 18 is available]

2005-07-26 Thread Matthew Simmons
> "RWF" == Robert W Fuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: RWF> This should have gone to the list. I'm annoyed that the reply-to RWF> address is NOT the list, rather the individual who e-mailed the list. I think the current arrangement makes sense, as it is biased towards an assumption o

Re: [Fwd: Re: [osol-code] ON build 18 is available]

2005-07-26 Thread Dan Mick
You want to reply to all, use "reply all". You want to reply to the sender, use "reply". Couldn't be easier. The current build is 21 because build 20 just stopped accepting fixes last night (for the ON consolidation). There is a 2-week internal delay for integration, testing, etc, and a bit

[osol-code] Re: [osol-discuss] On ksh and compatibility

2005-07-26 Thread Joerg Schilling
Eric Boutilier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 26 Jul 2005, Keith M Wesolowski wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 02:43:02PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > > > > We have either _no_ ksh in OpenSolaris or we have ksh93. > > > > Please take time out and think about what you're suggesting. >

Re: [osol-code] Re: Library Question

2005-07-26 Thread Jonathan Adams
On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 11:18:36AM -0700, J?rgen Keil wrote: > I'm not 100% sure if it's still important to mark shared libraries > with the execute bit with current Solaris 10 or OpenSolaris. It > seems the kernel is now using a vnode flag VVMEXEC to mark executable > content, and this flag appea

[Fwd: Re: [osol-code] ON build 18 is available]

2005-07-26 Thread Robert W. Fuller
This should have gone to the list. I'm annoyed that the reply-to address is NOT the list, rather the individual who e-mailed the list. --- Begin Message --- Further adding to the confusion is the fact that the Nevada community page at http://opensolaris.org/os/community/onnv/states that the curren

[osol-code] Re: Library Question

2005-07-26 Thread Jürgen Keil
It seems that with SunOS 5.6 & 5.7 it was important to mark the shared libraries with the executable bit, so that the "priority paging" feature wasn't confused. See the section "How do I enable priority paging?" here: http://www.sun.com/sun-on-net/performance/priority_paging.html#enable Quote

Re: [osol-code] ON build 18 is available

2005-07-26 Thread Dragan Cvetkovic
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005, Cyril Plisko wrote: On 7/26/05, Dragan Cvetkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Speaking of those patches, output of version shows that 117837-03 and 117831-02 have been installed, but how can I check if 117846-05 is installed as well? /opt/SUNWspro/bin/version doesn't show ba

Re: [osol-code] ON build 18 is available

2005-07-26 Thread Cyril Plisko
On 7/26/05, Dragan Cvetkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 25 Jul 2005, Keith M Wesolowski wrote: > > > Mike Kupfer is off today, but build 18 is now available via SDLC. > > Other download options will follow. Here are the release notes: > > Speaking of those patches, output of version sh

Re: [osol-code] Library Question

2005-07-26 Thread Shawn Walker
On 7/26/05, Rod Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Shawn Walker wrote: > > > The question then is whether or not there is any continued point in > > setting the executable bit? I mean, why bother setting it if it's > > unnecessary? On the chance that some ancient ye olde customer software > > will

Re: [osol-code] ON build 18 is available

2005-07-26 Thread Dragan Cvetkovic
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005, Keith M Wesolowski wrote: Mike Kupfer is off today, but build 18 is now available via SDLC. Other download options will follow. Here are the release notes: [snip] If you already have the Studio 10 compiler installed, you can use it, provided you have the following p

Re: [osol-code] ON build 18 is available

2005-07-26 Thread Keith M Wesolowski
On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 10:13:08AM -0400, Albertson, Brett wrote: > The release notes say that Solaris Express Community Release 16 or > higher is needed, but the download page at opensolaris.org states > that Release 18 is needed. Which one is correct? 16 is minimum, 18 is currently available.

RE: [osol-code] ON build 18 is available

2005-07-26 Thread Albertson, Brett
The release notes say that Solaris Express Community Release 16 or higher is needed, but the download page at opensolaris.org states that Release 18 is needed. Which one is correct? Brett Albertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Strategic Technologies  voice: 919-379-8449 FAX: 919-379-8100 S