Re: [osol-code] Open questions for UltraSPARC I revival

2006-05-02 Thread Michael Shapiro
> >>Keeping such code out of the consolidation doesn't seem fair; Linux has > > The gate is a shared resource; once something > > is putback, we all agree to maintain and support it as a first class > > citizen for as long as it remains. We are absolutely not going to go > > down the Linux path

Re: [osol-code] Open questions for UltraSPARC I revival

2006-05-02 Thread John Plocher
Keeping such code out of the consolidation doesn't seem fair; Linux has The gate is a shared resource; once something is putback, we all agree to maintain and support it as a first class citizen for as long as it remains. We are absolutely not going to go down the Linux path of incorporating ga

Re: [osol-code] Open questions for UltraSPARC I revival

2006-05-02 Thread Rainer Orth
Keith M Wesolowski writes: > It would be much better if this were done on a per-file or better yet > per-package basis, so that distributions could, as they do today, > elect to include or not include a particular feature. I don't think > adding a lot of #ifdef SOLARIS is the right answer here -

Re: [osol-code] Open questions for UltraSPARC I revival

2006-05-02 Thread Rainer Orth
Peter Memishian writes: > projects are not necessarily aligned with Sun's business needs. Further, > it was 32-bit SPARC kernel support in particular that I was thinking of as > having potential "long-term impact" on Sun's resources. ... which is not an issue for me: trying to resurrect *that* w

Re: [osol-code] Open questions for UltraSPARC I revival

2006-05-02 Thread Rainer Orth
Michael Shapiro writes: > There are two technical issues with US-I: > > 1. The pink zone fix, which extends its hooks way beyond the US-I CPU module. >To avoid lawyers rounding me up, I'll quote from the Solaris 7 boot.conf: > > # On systems containing 200MHz or lower UltraSPARC-I processors

Re: [osol-code] Open questions for UltraSPARC I revival

2006-05-02 Thread Peter Memishian
> I agree this should be discussed in terms of its long-term precedent and > guiding principles for future porting and EOL issues. That said, I wouldn't > confuse a full-fledged port with a CPU variant: PPC is new *ISA*, whereas > US-I is a tiny variant from another CPU we still support, US-I

Re: [osol-code] Open questions for UltraSPARC I revival

2006-05-02 Thread Keith M Wesolowski
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 02:06:10PM -0500, Eric Lowe wrote: > This brings up an interesting point, which is that we may have a lot of > community supported, but non-Sun-supported, features some day, starting > from this one (and with resurrecting the le driver which is related to > this revival

Re: [osol-code] Open questions for UltraSPARC I revival

2006-05-02 Thread Michael Shapiro
> > > I am uncertain that a sponsor will successfully manage to integrate > > this fix. The decision to drop US-I support was made for a complex of > > reasons, some business, some legal, and has had various follow-on > > effects (like elimination from test farms, among others). One

Re: [osol-code] Open questions for UltraSPARC I revival

2006-05-02 Thread Peter Memishian
> I am uncertain that a sponsor will successfully manage to integrate > this fix. The decision to drop US-I support was made for a complex of > reasons, some business, some legal, and has had various follow-on > effects (like elimination from test farms, among others). One > outco

Re: [osol-code] Open questions for UltraSPARC I revival

2006-05-02 Thread Eric Lowe
Stephen Hahn wrote: I am uncertain that a sponsor will successfully manage to integrate this fix. The decision to drop US-I support was made for a complex of reasons, some business, some legal, and has had various follow-on effects (like elimination from test farms, among others). One

Re: [osol-code] Open questions for UltraSPARC I revival

2006-05-02 Thread Rainer Orth
Stephen Hahn writes: > I am uncertain that a sponsor will successfully manage to integrate > this fix. The decision to drop US-I support was made for a complex of > reasons, some business, some legal, and has had various follow-on The business reasons shouldn't be much of an issue for Open

Re: [osol-code] Open questions for UltraSPARC I revival

2006-05-02 Thread Stephen Hahn
* Rainer Orth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-05-02 11:45]: > Jonathan Adams writes: > > > > I know that, but I couldn't find any code dealing with the underlying > > > issue > > > in S9 sources so I have no idea how this was dealt with before (if at > > > all). > > > > In Solaris 9, the SUNW,UltraSP

Re: [osol-code] Open questions for UltraSPARC I revival

2006-05-02 Thread Rainer Orth
Jonathan Adams writes: > > I know that, but I couldn't find any code dealing with the underlying issue > > in S9 sources so I have no idea how this was dealt with before (if at all). > > In Solaris 9, the SUNW,UltraSPARC module was delivered. The bugid: > > > 4944965 SUNW,UltraSPARC should not b

Re: [osol-code] Open questions for UltraSPARC I revival

2006-05-02 Thread Jonathan Adams
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 08:28:17PM +0200, Rainer Orth wrote: > Jonathan Adams writes: > > > > * When UltraSPARC I support is resurrected, it seems to be correct to > > > rename /usr/include/sys/fm/cpu/UltraSPARC-II.h to UltraSPARC.h (or > > > UltraSPARC-I.h) since this file already refers to b

Re: [osol-code] Open questions for UltraSPARC I revival

2006-05-02 Thread Rainer Orth
Jonathan Adams writes: > > * When UltraSPARC I support is resurrected, it seems to be correct to > > rename /usr/include/sys/fm/cpu/UltraSPARC-II.h to UltraSPARC.h (or > > UltraSPARC-I.h) since this file already refers to both CPU types. > > You should discuss this change with [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [osol-code] Open questions for UltraSPARC I revival

2006-05-02 Thread Jonathan Adams
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 08:10:42PM +0200, Rainer Orth wrote: > My sponsor request for > > 6414867 Revive UltraSPARC I support > http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=8028&tstart=0 > > hasn't yet triggered any response, but since there are a couple of open > questions, I

[osol-code] Open questions for UltraSPARC I revival

2006-05-02 Thread Rainer Orth
My sponsor request for 6414867 Revive UltraSPARC I support http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=8028&tstart=0 hasn't yet triggered any response, but since there are a couple of open questions, I'd like to raise them here: * Until US-I support was removed, you had