Re: [osol-discuss] "Should I install OpenSolaris?"

2006-02-22 Thread Venky
Have added this to the FAQ at the opensolaris wiki: http://www.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/OpenSolaris_FAQ Venky. On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 04:22:22PM +, John Levon wrote: > > This FAQ comes up roughly six squillion times a day. Could the FAQ link to > stevel's blog entry: > > http://www.whack

Re: [osol-discuss] NexentaOS (elatte) Alpha 3 released

2006-02-22 Thread Ben Rockwood
Nexenta Alpha3 is also available from Genunix: http://www.genunix.org/distributions/gnusolaris/index.html Great work on the distro guys! benr. Alex Ross wrote: NexentaOS (elatte) Alpha 3 is now available for download at: http://www.gnusolaris.org/Download This release contains 3,596 packa

Re: Niagara1-based workstation ? / was: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Cheap SPARC development machine ?

2006-02-22 Thread James Dickens
On 2/22/06, Roland Mainz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Octave Orgeron wrote: > [snip] > > I'm very happy to see the new Ultra20 and Ultra40 workstations, they > > offer a lot of nice features at a more reasonable price. It's great > > that Sun has made such a large portion of their software availabl

[osol-discuss] NexentaOS (elatte) Alpha 3 released

2006-02-22 Thread Alex Ross
NexentaOS (elatte) Alpha 3 is now available for download at: http://www.gnusolaris.org/Download This release contains 3,596 packages, and in particular: * OpenOffice 2.0 (distributed with both InstallCD and LiveCD). * Storage Subsystem (thanks to OpenSolaris Storage Community!) * OpenSolaris

Re: [osol-discuss] suggestion for new project - new digital clock for gtk (gxclocks)

2006-02-22 Thread Chandan B.N.
On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 17:51 -0800, Darren Reed wrote: > The ultimate goal of this would be to draw half a dozen clocks in a row > with city titles above them, like you see on many walls today JDS clock applet already does this, in the preferences you can select multiple timzones. If you pre

[osol-discuss] uggestion for new project - new digital clock for gtk (gxclocks)

2006-02-22 Thread Darren Reed
Last year, being located in Beijing, I found it important to be aware of what the time was not just locally but in almost half a dozen different time zones as the people I was dealing during the week with were quite well spread out. This "problem" resulted in me hacking together a small digital cl

Re: [osol-discuss] 128bit integer support in Solaris ?

2006-02-22 Thread Paul Jakma
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, Roland Mainz wrote: pow(), exp(), log(), (a)sin(), (a)cos() etc. - and stuff like isnan() (e.g. NaN constant and extra handling), +Inf, -Inf etc. are needed, too. So you want IEEE-754 really? :) 16 byte floating point types are supported natively in our compiler btw, 'l

[osol-discuss] Re: 128bit integer support in Solaris ?

2006-02-22 Thread Peter Damron
> Did anyone thought about adding 128bit integer > support to Solaris ? Thought about it for the compilers, but no pressing reason to do it yet. It's kind of a chicken and egg thing. We'd like to see enough demand to warrant the effort, but there's no measurable demand, because the feature isn't a

Niagara1-based workstation ? / was: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Cheap SPARC development machine ?

2006-02-22 Thread Roland Mainz
Octave Orgeron wrote: [snip] > I'm very happy to see the new Ultra20 and Ultra40 workstations, they > offer a lot of nice features at a more reasonable price. It's great > that Sun has made such a large portion of their software available on > Opterons, this helps out end-users a lot. However, I'd

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Cheap SPARC development machine ?

2006-02-22 Thread Ignacio Marambio Catán
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > > > In general terms, I'd describe your proposal as an RFE for a deskside > Niagra/T1 based system. While we could debate the specifics of a desirable > hardware configuration, a range of products could be offered to target > different price poin

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Cheap SPARC development machine ?

2006-02-22 Thread Octave Orgeron
Hi Bart, --- Bart Smaalders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, given the nature of semiconductor manufacturing, I'm sure there > are Niagara parts with smaller numbers of working cores; these are of > course currently scrap. Their marginal cost is low, but so is their > performance. > That'

Re: [osol-discuss] 128bit integer support in Solaris ?

2006-02-22 Thread Roland Mainz
Paul Jakma wrote: > On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, Roland Mainz wrote: > > G... then we're quickly at the point where the code becomes > > unmaintable... > > Hmm, shouldn't be really, if just the standard arithmetical operations > (but in 182bit) are all you need. If you replace code like |a = b * c| w

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Cheap SPARC development machine ?

2006-02-22 Thread Octave Orgeron
Hi Al, --- Al Hopper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In general terms, I'd describe your proposal as an RFE for a deskside > Niagra/T1 based system. While we could debate the specifics of a > desirable > hardware configuration, a range of products could be offered to > target > different price poin

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Cheap SPARC development machine ?

2006-02-22 Thread Bart Smaalders
Al Hopper wrote: In general terms, I'd describe your proposal as an RFE for a deskside Niagra/T1 based system. While we could debate the specifics of a desirable hardware configuration, a range of products could be offered to target different price points. All the product offerings could share

Re: [osol-discuss] 128bit integer support in Solaris ?

2006-02-22 Thread Paul Jakma
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, Roland Mainz wrote: G... then we're quickly at the point where the code becomes unmaintable... Hmm, shouldn't be really, if just the standard arithmetical operations (but in 182bit) are all you need. Then again, I've just noticed the "MPEG specialist" in your sig, so

Re: [osol-discuss] 128bit integer support in Solaris ?

2006-02-22 Thread Roland Mainz
Ian Collins wrote: > Roland Mainz wrote: > >>Well, it would be easy to do in portable C/C++ code. It would be an > >>optimisation for a specific platform but you'd be able to test it on > >>any platform. > > > >I already tried that with bad/mixed results... the overhead to call a > >C++ method for

[osol-discuss] Call for Papers Opens for ApacheCon Europe 2006 (fwd)

2006-02-22 Thread Al Hopper
Jim, Can we get this added to the OpenSolaris events page please? Presenting OpenSolaris related technical material at important/popular technical venues, seems like an ideal way to spread the OpenSolaris message! Regards, Al Hopper Logical Approach Inc, Plano, TX. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris Express b31 doesn't boot on Fujitsu PRIMEPOWER 400 (sun4us/FJSV).

2006-02-22 Thread Gavin Maltby
On 02/19/06 06:55, Ryo CHiba wrote: I'm very interested in developping OpenSolaris on SPARC Machine. Now I have a Fujitsu PRIMEPOWER 400 Mid-range Server in my room, and it works well on Solaris 10 1/06 official release. I've read trunk/RelNotes, and it says you would build OpenSolaris source

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Cheap SPARC development machine ?

2006-02-22 Thread Al Hopper
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006, Octave Orgeron wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I thought I'd comment on this subject because it's near and dear to my > heart. I have an Ultra60 and a Netra X1 at home that I use for testing, > designing, and every-day stuff (web, email, etc). In my profession, > it's important to s

Re: [osol-discuss] 128bit integer support in Solaris ?

2006-02-22 Thread Roland Mainz
Paul Jakma wrote: > > On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, Roland Mainz wrote: > > > I already tried that with bad/mixed results... the overhead to call > > a C++ method for each instruction is quite significant... ;-( > > Try it in C instead? :) G... then we're quickly at the point where the code becomes

Re: [osol-discuss] 128bit integer support in Solaris ?

2006-02-22 Thread Paul Jakma
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, Roland Mainz wrote: I already tried that with bad/mixed results... the overhead to call a C++ method for each instruction is quite significant... ;-( Try it in C instead? :) regards, -- Paul Jakma [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 64A2FF6A Fortu

Re: [osol-discuss] 128bit integer support in Solaris ?

2006-02-22 Thread Ian Collins
Roland Mainz wrote: Well, it would be easy to do in portable C/C++ code. It would be an optimisation for a specific platform but you'd be able to test it on any platform. I already tried that with bad/mixed results... the overhead to call a C++ method for each instruction is quite signifi

Re: [osol-discuss] 128bit integer support in Solaris ?

2006-02-22 Thread Roland Mainz
Paul Jakma wrote: > On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Roland Mainz wrote: > > Would it be possible that the next generation of SPARC CPUs will > > have 128bit integer registers ? > > I don't know I'm afraid. GP registers: seems unlikely. VIS: you could > ask, but who knows. Well, 128bit integer instructions w

Re: [osol-discuss] 128bit integer support in Solaris ?

2006-02-22 Thread Paul Jakma
On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Roland Mainz wrote: Would it be possible that the next generation of SPARC CPUs will have 128bit integer registers ? I don't know I'm afraid. GP registers: seems unlikely. VIS: you could ask, but who knows. Yes, but the code would become hard to maintain since this woul

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Mesa 6.4.2/6.5 for Solaris x86

2006-02-22 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Jeremy Teo wrote: I believe Alan Coopersmith mentioned in passing (on #opensolaris) that there are already folks in Sun working on DRI, and they have working code. Yes, a group from our kernel/driver team has a prototype of DRI on Intel integrated graphics chips up and running now and is workin

[osol-discuss] Re: Cheap SPARC development machine ?

2006-02-22 Thread Roland Mainz
Bill Rushmore wrote: > On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Roland Mainz wrote: > > Actually there is the 3rd type of customer: People who write software - > > they usually fall in the space between the two types. Currently Sun > > simply lacks a decent development machine which is affordable by > > students (Sun

Re: [osol-discuss] 128bit integer support in Solaris ?

2006-02-22 Thread Roland Mainz
Paul Jakma wrote: > US IV+ and Opteron both have higher clock frequencies and larger L1 > caches per core and likely would be the better choice for compute > intensive codes, including integer only. > > Most definitely for FP codes. Plus both support SIMD instructions, VIS > for former (for which

[osol-discuss] Discussion rollup: smf-discuss, 02/05 - 02/18

2006-02-22 Thread Eric Boutilier
= smf-discuss 02/05 - 02/18 = Threads or announcements originated by leaders during the period: - setting ndd parameters by Liane Praza - Visual Panels project now open by David Powell =

[osol-discuss] Discussion rollup: laptop-discuss, 02/05 - 02/18

2006-02-22 Thread Eric Boutilier
= laptop-discuss 02/05 - 02/18 = Threads or announcements originated by leaders during the period: - New version of ipw and iwi wireless drivers by Andrei Dorofeev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ===

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: OpenSolaris for users, sysadmins and data processing centers

2006-02-22 Thread Joerg Schilling
Eric Boutilier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Congratulations still! Making first OpenSolaris distros and First book! > >Your contributions to OpenSolaris is Great! > Definitely. Bravo Joerg! Thank you both! But please note that this book is a cooperation with Rolf Dietze & Tatjana Heuser

Re: [osol-discuss] Discussion rollup: desktop-discuss, 02/05 - 02/18

2006-02-22 Thread Eric Boutilier
OK, for RSS users, let's give the del.icio.us method a shot. Here's a feed I created: http://del.icio.us/rss/bootblog/oss:rollups I've posted/tagged the first two, therefore they should show up immediately in your reader when you subscribe. Going forward, new ones are easy (take just seconds)

[osol-discuss] "Should I install OpenSolaris?"

2006-02-22 Thread John Levon
This FAQ comes up roughly six squillion times a day. Could the FAQ link to stevel's blog entry: http://www.whacked.net/2005/06/21/confused-so-was-i/ Which makes things a lot clearer to people. Currently the General FAQ doesn't even mention Solaris Express! john _

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Bi-weekly roll-up report experiment

2006-02-22 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Eric Boutilier wrote: Jim Grisanzio wrote: Eric Boutilier wrote: Excellent point, and I'd be glad to add some thoughts for what it's worth. It's worth a lot. My thinking is simply that you are doing this; therefore, you are following it closely and know more than I do so you should comme

Re: [osol-discuss] Discussion rollup: desktop-discuss, 02/05 - 02/18

2006-02-22 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Eric Boutilier wrote: John Levon wrote: On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 06:46:54PM -0600, Eric Boutilier wrote: Eric, are these going to be regular? Yes. If so, is it possible they could be posted somewhere else perhaps? Yes I'd be glad to... I just need help figuring out where. Jim mentioned in

[osol-discuss] Fwd: OpenSolaris @ CeBIT2006

2006-02-22 Thread Patrick Finch
Hi, In case anyone missed this, there will be an OpenSolaris community day at CeBIT on the 12th March. The details are below. A couple of tips: The registration page is http://de.sun.com/company/events/2006/cebit/community/index.html, and is in German. Click Anmeldung to register. Accommo

Re: [osol-discuss] Discussion rollup: desktop-discuss, 02/05 - 02/18

2006-02-22 Thread John Levon
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 09:25:29PM -0600, Eric Boutilier wrote: > Yes I'd be glad to... I just need help figuring out where. Jim mentioned > including them in the newsletter. Would that suffice? For feed-reader I think so, or even just RSS would be good enough I think. cheers! john __

[osol-discuss] New Project Proposal - Key Management Framework

2006-02-22 Thread Wyllys Ingersoll
I would like to bring a new project to OpenSolaris.org. The project is called "Key Management Framework" (KMF). The goal of the project is to provide a unified set of interfaces (both programming APIs and administrative tools) for managing PKI objects in Solaris. Currently, there are at severa

Re: [osol-discuss] 128bit integer support in Solaris ?

2006-02-22 Thread Paul Jakma
On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Roland Mainz wrote: The application is compute-intensive and has only small memory-bandwidth requirements. For an integer-only port we expect performance gains on Niagara since it has eight cores with four threads each which could crunch the data in parallel. IIRC: Ultr

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: UDFS R/W support for CD-RW / DVD+-RWs?

2006-02-22 Thread Joerg Schilling
Jürgen Keil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > (And the other limitations make incremental writing > > > > through the OS cumbersome except for DVD-RAM) > > > > > > Hmm, formatted DVD+RW media also has no such > > > restrictions, you can read/write individual 2048 byte blocks, > > > just like DV

[osol-discuss] Re: Solaris 10 on SUN Blade 2000

2006-02-22 Thread Malay Nema
Thanks for the help. However "svcadm enable volfs" says there is no such instance. DVDROM works perfectly fine. Still I have to mount usbdrive by stopping and starting volmgt. At least every thing is functioning. Thanks. Malay This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 on SUN Blade 2000

2006-02-22 Thread Casper . Dik
>Hi, recently I have [u]upgraded[/u] to Soalris 10(Release 3/05) from Solaris 8 >on my SUN Blade 200 0. Since then I am unable to use DVDROM and USB ports. I received recommended S-10 Patches also. Bu t of no use. Can any body help? I suspect S10 does not support the three year old achitecture

[osol-discuss] Solaris 10 on SUN Blade 2000

2006-02-22 Thread Malay Nema
Hi, recently I have [u]upgraded[/u] to Soalris 10(Release 3/05) from Solaris 8 on my SUN Blade 2000. Since then I am unable to use DVDROM and USB ports. I received recommended S-10 Patches also. But of no use. Can any body help? I suspect S10 does not support the three year old achitecture of SU