[osol-discuss] Re: Can I finally re-distribute /usr/lib/libC* ?

2006-09-07 Thread David Comay
I don't know the answer about redistributing libC* but have you brought up the DLJ question to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or the appropriate forum http://forums.java.net/jive/forum.jspa?forumID=94 I'll make some inqueries myself but the DLJ folks might know the answer and certainly would want to know

[osol-discuss] Re: Some questions....

2006-09-07 Thread Stuart Remphrey
Just quickly: I got a few questions; 1.) Is the 'priocntl' utility used instead of the 'nice' utility, or is it just another priority tool? I got the feeling it's the same as 'nice' Already well answered by others. 2.) Is Dynamic System Domains the same as zones? The description

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Can I finally re-distribute /usr/lib/libC* ?

2006-09-07 Thread Martin Bochnig
David Comay wrote: I don't know the answer about redistributing libC* but have you brought up the DLJ question to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or the appropriate forum http://forums.java.net/jive/forum.jspa?forumID=94 I'll make some inqueries myself but the DLJ folks might know the answer and certainly

err, Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Can I finally re-distribute /usr/lib/libC* ?

2006-09-07 Thread Martin Bochnig
Martin Bochnig wrote: PLUS: Even the since then *holy* and completely unavailable OpenBootProm ieee1275 firmware is open source (BSD license ! ) since last week. All that is totally _GREAT_. Should read: Even the until then *holy* and completely unavailable OpenBootProm ieee1275 firmware

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Can I finally re-distribute /usr/lib/libC* ?

2006-09-07 Thread Moinak Ghosh
Martin Bochnig wrote: David Comay wrote: I don't know the answer about redistributing libC* but have you brought up the DLJ question to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or the appropriate forum http://forums.java.net/jive/forum.jspa?forumID=94 I'll make some inqueries myself but the DLJ folks might

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Can I finally re-distribute /usr/lib/libC* ?

2006-09-07 Thread James C. McPherson
Moinak Ghosh wrote: Martin Bochnig wrote: David Comay wrote: I don't know the answer about redistributing libC* but have you brought up the DLJ question to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or the appropriate forum http://forums.java.net/jive/forum.jspa?forumID=94 I'll make some inqueries myself but the

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Can I finally re-distribute /usr/lib/libC* ?

2006-09-07 Thread Martin Bochnig
James C. McPherson wrote: Moinak Ghosh wrote: Martin Bochnig wrote: David Comay wrote: I don't know the answer about redistributing libC* but have you brought up the DLJ question to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or the appropriate forum http://forums.java.net/jive/forum.jspa?forumID=94 I'll make

Re: [osol-discuss] Real work needs to be done Was: Re: License rathole:

2006-09-07 Thread Gavin Maltby
On 09/07/06 01:20, Joerg Schilling wrote: John Plocher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can we please go back to discussing more productive topics? If you have time to do more productive work and are interested in doing so, you could help to finally integrate star into opensolaris. I'm not sure

[osol-discuss] Re: Some questions....

2006-09-07 Thread Nergal Dimitri
But what if an application has memory limit and fills the limited memory with memory leaks, then when the memory limit is reached it cannot allocate memory for its own actual behavior, which leads to starvation of itself? Can this happen? This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Real work needs to be done Was: Re: License rathole:

2006-09-07 Thread Darren J Moffat
Joerg Schilling wrote: Martin Bochnig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Certainly very useful! However SUNW, what about allowing Schillix, Belenix and marTux the (closed) redistribution of the 4 tiny libs, on whom your so called Distro-JDK __depends__ ? You youself violate DLJ's terms requiring

Re: [osol-discuss] Proposal: Project star integration

2006-09-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
Mike Kupfer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jörg == Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jörg as it seems that real work is done with ksh93 integration after a Jörg maling list and a project hast bee created, I propose to create Jörg something similar for star. Just so everyone knows, Jörg

Re: [osol-discuss] Real work needs to be done Was: Re: License rathole:

2006-09-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
Gavin Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure I understand how we got on to mention 'star' in this thread, but let's just say we all knew it was inevitable :-) There is a simple way to avoid this kind of hints: Make sure that people from Sun do not tell me that _I_ am preventing real

[osol-discuss] Atlanta OpenSolaris User Group - Tuesday, Sept. 12

2006-09-07 Thread Scott Dickson - Systems Engineer
The next meeting of the Atlanta OpenSolaris User Group will be Tuesday, Sept 12, at 7 PM in the offices of Sun Microsystems. Sun is located at 3655 North Point Parkway in Alpharetta, GA. For directions and details, see the ATLOSUG web site at

[osol-discuss] IOTA 2006

2006-09-07 Thread ankur chauhan
RVCE, Bangalore Computer science department is organizing a 2 day tech fest - IOTA 2006, on the 29th and 30th September 2006 in which more than 3000 students from various colleges are expected to participate. IOTA 2006 is sponsored by SPICE Telecom Ltd. and other companies like TISCO and NOVELL

[osol-discuss] since opnsolaris has limited driver support..adding wmware esx layer?

2006-09-07 Thread Cedric Walter
hi, I need some driver for opensolaris or belenix that do not exist currently... but if wmware esx abstract the hardware and has support for raid card (esx is a linux layer). what does the Solaris Guru think? I really want to use ZFS, and want a dedicated NAS running Solaris ... This

[osol-discuss] Project Proposal: Object Storage Device (OSD) support for Solaris

2006-09-07 Thread Ed Nadolski
The T10 SCSI OSD specification defines a command protocol that allows data to be stored and managed as logical objects rather than as blocks of data. We would like to propose an opensolaris project to provide support in Solaris for OSD devices. This will consist of the utilities, programming

Re: [osol-discuss] Real work needs to be done Was: Re: License rathole:

2006-09-07 Thread oxygene
On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 11:21:01AM +0100, Darren J Moffat wrote: This is indeed something that could be fixed by Sun easily. My impression is that this is caused by selective perception at Suns side. Sun people do not have this problem. this, together with more likely lack of resources or

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: Object Storage Device (OSD) support for Solaris

2006-09-07 Thread James C. McPherson
Ed Nadolski wrote: The T10 SCSI OSD specification defines a command protocol that allows data to be stored and managed as logical objects rather than as blocks of data. We would like to propose an opensolaris project to provide support in Solaris for OSD devices. This will consist of the

Re: [osol-discuss] Real work needs to be done Was: Re: License rathole:

2006-09-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
James Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joerg Schilling writes: Maybe, it was the same reason, why I did not get an answer on the question why something simple like fnmatch.c from libc is still not available as source. It is (like all of the special libc i18n code) encumbered. This is

Re: [osol-discuss] Real work needs to be done Was: Re: License rathole:

2006-09-07 Thread James Carlson
Joerg Schilling writes: Running nm on the .o file makes me asume that it simply calls i8n code but is not itself encumbered. Could you check this please? I think that's flawed. There is no way to determine what licenses may or may not apply to a given bit of source code by looking at the

[osol-discuss] Re: Real work needs to be done Was: Re:

2006-09-07 Thread James C. Cotillier
The core problem appears to be that Joerg did not get a response at all. With regard to this comment in an earlier post: Maybe, it was the same reason, why I did not get an answer on the question why something simple like fnmatch.c from libc is still not available as source. a boilerplate

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Real work needs to be done Was: Re:

2006-09-07 Thread Casper . Dik
a boilerplate response could have been made, of the form Inert name(s) [is |are] entwined with encumbered code, and certain agreements are in place that would be repudiated if Sun were to discuss any instant details in a public forum We're not allowed to name and shame. So that's all we can

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: Object Storage Device (OSD) support for Solaris

2006-09-07 Thread Cyril Plisko
On 9/7/06, Ed Nadolski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The T10 SCSI OSD specification defines a command protocol that allows data to be stored and managed as logical objects rather than as blocks of data. We would like to propose an opensolaris project to provide support in Solaris for OSD devices.

[osol-discuss] Links to rollup reports

2006-09-07 Thread Eric Boutilier
Recently, Glynn Foster wrote: Subject: OpenSolaris Weekly News #27 Adding opensolaris-announce to send these weekly summaries there, as well as -discuss. All follow ups should be to -discuss. Ditto for these reports. --Eric

[osol-discuss] Re: Real work needs to be done Was: Re:

2006-09-07 Thread James C. Cotillier
[b]As an aside:[/b] I think that's flawed. There is no way to determine what licenses may or may not apply to a given bit of source code by looking at the object file produced. This may be true for Sun for Solaris, and true for other UNIX vendors generally, but it is not universally

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: Object Storage Device (OSD) support for Solaris

2006-09-07 Thread James Carlson
Cyril Plisko writes: The T10 OSD model provides a number of advantages over the aging block-based storage model in areas such as performance, scalability, and security. Storage vendors are currently developing storage devices that support the T10 OSD protocol, and OSD support for other

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Real work needs to be done Was: Re:

2006-09-07 Thread James Carlson
James C. Cotillier writes: This may be true for Sun for Solaris, and true for other UNIX vendors generally, but it is not universally so. Another large vendor, in a very large OS, has since 1964 had the standard of placing such information in human-readable characters at the start of every

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Real work needs to be done Was: Re:

2006-09-07 Thread Rich Teer
On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, James Carlson wrote: In other words, if you want the answer as to what the specific restriction might be, I'm afraid we can't divulge that, and even if we could, it likely would do you no amount of good. Can't is all we can say. One wonders at the stupidity of companies

i18n libc bits [was Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Real work needs to be done Was: Re:]

2006-09-07 Thread James Carlson
Rich Teer writes: If the original writer of the code doesn't want their code released, that's their right and that's OK, but it would sure be nice if they would allow their identity and reasons to be known. After all, what have they got to lose? Their code is still kept secret. Welcome to

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Real work needs to be done Was: Re:

2006-09-07 Thread James C. Cotillier
We're not allowed to name and shame. I meant just the name of an object, assuming a question had come in of the form What is the status of frizzlefraggle.c? kind of thing. Of course you could not reveal the names of any third party entities in agreements with Sun. But the CDDL response does

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Compiling sysbench on

2006-09-07 Thread Frank Mash
Thanks for the detailed info. If v9 infact represents 64-bit then why am I getting 32bit/64bit compilation conflicts. MySQL config shows that it is compiled with the v9 flag and from what I understand by default the compiler will compile in 64bit (the native architecture, right?) I will post

Re: i18n libc bits [was Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Real work needs to be done Was: Re:]

2006-09-07 Thread Rich Teer
On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, James Carlson wrote: Welcome to the world of contracts. I'm not saying I'm thrilled with the answer, but just that there isn't another one. No matter how urgently or nicely you ask. :-/ Indeed. :-( A productive place to take this conversation would be a proposal to

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Compiling sysbench on

2006-09-07 Thread Casper . Dik
Thanks for the detailed info. If v9 infact represents 64-bit then why am I getting 32bit/64bit compilation conflicts. MySQL conf ig shows that it is compiled with the v9 flag and from what I understand by default the compiler wi ll compile in 64bit (the native architecture, right?) Default

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Can I finally re-distribute /usr/lib/libC* ?

2006-09-07 Thread Bonnie Corwin
Moinak Ghosh wrote On 09/07/06 01:32,: Martin Bochnig wrote: David Comay wrote: I don't know the answer about redistributing libC* but have you brought up the DLJ question to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or the appropriate forum http://forums.java.net/jive/forum.jspa?forumID=94 I'll make some

Re: i18n libc bits [was Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Real work needs to be done Was: Re:]

2006-09-07 Thread James C. McPherson
Rich Teer wrote: On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, James Carlson wrote: Welcome to the world of contracts. I'm not saying I'm thrilled with the answer, but just that there isn't another one. No matter how urgently or nicely you ask. :-/ Indeed. :-( A productive place to take this conversation would be a

Re: i18n libc bits [was Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Real work needs to be done Was: Re:]

2006-09-07 Thread Dave Miner
Rich Teer wrote: On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, James Carlson wrote: ... not encumbered. I can't ... but perhaps there's someone interested who can. Why can't you make such a proposal?* You (and all other Sun engineers) are just as much of our community as anyone else, so in principle there should be

[osol-discuss] Re: Some questions....

2006-09-07 Thread Stuart Remphrey
Yes, but that's really no different than without limits, as if you did not set a limit but just wait a little longer it will reach the real system limits, and have the same problem, but there'll be less you can do about it. The difference is how much this affects other processes. There's

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Real work needs to be done Was: Re:

2006-09-07 Thread James C. Cotillier
Sure; I've seen such a thing done before. However, it doesn't work with the objects in question and, even if it did, it turns out that we can't put much more here than sorry, but source for this module isn't and can't be made available. ... which turns out to be exactly the same thing

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Real work needs to be done Was: Re:

2006-09-07 Thread James C. Cotillier
If the original writer of the code doesn't want their code released, that's their right and that's OK, but it would sure be nice if they would allow their identity and reasons to be known. After all, what ave they got to lose? Their code is still kept secret. Here I would have to weigh

[osol-discuss] New install, trying to bring up X login blanks screen and locks me out

2006-09-07 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
I believe I have a working scratch install of S10u2 on my new server box, but when I boot it, after relatively few seconds I get a message on the screen that X login screen is coming and I should wait for it. Then the screen blanks, and I cannot talk to the system through the keyboard again. I

Re: [osol-discuss] VMware Workstation 5.5.2 Build 29772

2006-09-07 Thread James Dickens
On 9/7/06, Dennis Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a new release of VMWare Workstation out. VMware Workstation 5.5.2 Latest Version: 5.5.2 | 8/10/06 | Build 29772 Anyone done any testing with snv_46 yet? i have booted b46 that was part of a opensolaris distro i beleve inside of

Re: [osol-discuss] Sun SSH and OpenSSH and no CDDL ?

2006-09-07 Thread Octave Orgeron
I remember when ssh appeared in the early builds of Solaris 9 and I was pretty happy about that. There are definitely differences between the OpenSSH and the SunSSH code bases. The three things I point out as show stoppers for anyone trying to shoe horn OpenSSH into Solaris are: - PAM

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Some questions....

2006-09-07 Thread Boyd Adamson
Hi Stuart! On 07/09/2006, at 4:22 PM, Stuart Remphrey wrote: 3.) What's the actual difference between changing user priority and global priority? What happends if I change both to maximum (say RT). Is the user priority less worth the global? If I as root change the user priority, is there any

[osol-discuss] Re: b46 Problems with Integrated e1000g NIC on Asus P4P800 MB

2006-09-07 Thread Xiangtao You
I'm the responsible engineer for the e1000g driver. And we have been aware of this issue. Currently this problem is still under investigation. I'll get the fix soon. And I'll send you the fixed driver at that time. I'll keep you tuned. Thanks, Ted This message posted from opensolaris.org