Ignacio Marambio Catán [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Seriously; FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, GNU/Linux, and many others all
provide a better /bin/sh...
what we really need is a way for users to change their own shells without
root privileges in /etc/passwd
I would call this a bug in passwd(1).
Hi,
I am facing problem after installing patches required to enable extended FILE
facility on Solaris 10 OS. After setting the environment variable
LD_PRELOAD_32=/usr/lib/extendedFILE.so.1,
I am not able to run any 32-bit application including a simple ls command.
The error I am getting is as
Hi,
I am facing problem after installing patches required to enable extended FILE
facility on Solaris
10 OS. After setting the environment variable
LD_PRELOAD_32=/usr/lib/extendedFILE.so.1,
I am not able to run any 32-bit application including a simple ls command.
The error I am getting is as
Bruno Jargot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Every reasonable Unix platform (except S(ch)illyX maybe) has started
to move it's implementation of /bin/sh towards the POSIX standard. How
long can Opensolaris ignore this?
1) What is reasonable?
2) If you believe /bin/sh is affected by the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
POSIX does not deal with path names and thus does not require that
/bin/sh is POSIX compliant.
Backwards compatibility requiers that /bin/sh remains the Bourne Shel=
l.
But we're free to change root's shell to /bin/ksh93
Of course ;-)
My proposal is to give two
Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The tools are available for you to find the bugs if you want to see them.
It took me all of a few moments to put together these searches:
Solaris still exists because it still has an own
identity. If you give this
up in favor of Linux, people will just use Linux and
you are lost.
Right. No point in using a copycat OS, even if it is a very expensive copy.
Might as well go for the original in that case, and just use Linux.
Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A modern shell, such as ksh93, has functionality and locale support
that is near equivalent or superior to bash.
Are you talking about the report against /bin/sh that claims a bug because
/bin/sh _has_ locale support but bash has not?
Jörg
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
7) Continues to cause issues for users and developers when dealing
with multiple systems
1-6 are easily solved with changing root's default shell.
7, unfortunately, is not as it requires replacing /bin/sh with /bin/bash
and that, I think, it something few would be
fwiw;
# uname -s
OpenBSD
# crontab -l|grep -i shell
SHELL=/bin/sh
# grep ^root /etc/passwd |cut -d : -f 1,7
root:/bin/ksh
# uname -a
OpenBSD wiggum.firebox.com 4.2 GENERIC#375 i386
# md5 /bin/sh
MD5 (/bin/sh) = 266304e942a721b73f0c226681a3209d
# md5 /bin/ksh
MD5 (/bin/ksh) =
furthermore:
# /bin/sh -c 'foo=a; echo b | read foo; echo $foo'
a
# /bin/ksh -c 'foo=a; echo b | read foo; echo $foo'
a
( FAO Mr Carlson :) )
It's ksh but not as we know it, Jim.
/bin/ksh93 -c 'foo=a; echo b | read foo; echo $foo'
(I.e., it's the same shell but it doesn't behave like ksh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
furthermore:
# /bin/sh -c 'foo=a; echo b | read foo; echo $foo'
a
# /bin/ksh -c 'foo=a; echo b | read foo; echo $foo'
a
( FAO Mr Carlson :) )
It's ksh but not as we know it, Jim.
/bin/ksh93 -c 'foo=a; echo b | read foo; echo $foo'
(I.e., it's the same
On Feb 7, 2008 7:41 AM, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Ignacio Marambio Catán [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Seriously; FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, GNU/Linux, and many others all
provide a better /bin/sh...
what we really need is a way for users to change their own shells
On Thu, 2008-02-07 at 06:08 -0800, Roman Morokutti wrote:
Hi,
I am stuck on how to patch an install image which is
currently an ISO-image with bits that support a ZFS
root. The problem is that after mounting the ISO-file
the mount directory is read-only. Every attempt to make
it writable
Shawn Walker wrote:
On Feb 6, 2008 4:14 PM, Kyle McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Shawn Walker wrote:
On Feb 6, 2008 3:37 PM, Kyle McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Shawn Walker wrote:
On Feb 6, 2008 3:18 PM, a b [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh, and as far as the
David,
You could try a program called isomaster
As a Solaris X86 Evangelist, you suggest a program that is only currently
available for Linux and Windows? Very poor
indeed IMO.
Regards... Sean.
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Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Feb 7, 2008 12:42 PM, a b [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, they have, and what's why it needs to be changed :)
Oh wait...you were talking about Solaris ;)
I think this is too harsh. If you were working on
I am able to send from version 8 zfs to version 10. no complaints.
Hello everybody,
I'm thinking of building out a second machine as a
backup for our mail
spool where I push out regular filesystem snapshots,
something like a
warm/hot spare situation.
Our mail spool is currently
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 12:54:20 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
furthermore:
# /bin/sh -c 'foo=a; echo b | read foo; echo $foo'
a
# /bin/ksh -c 'foo=a; echo b | read foo; echo $foo'
a
( FAO Mr Carlson :) )
It's ksh but not as we know it, Jim.
/bin/ksh93 -c 'foo=a; echo b | read
Yes, they have, and what's why it needs to be changed :)
Oh wait...you were talking about Solaris ;)
I think this is too harsh. If you were working on HP-UX, you'd find
that the OS is even more rigid in not changing anything than
Solaris. Solaris is almost ultra-liberal in that respect.
Hi,
I loaded via pkgadd from sunfreeware.com apache 2.2.6, mysql 5.0.51 and php
5.2.5. I also loaded all the dependencies from sunfreeware. Then I added the
obligatory items into the httpd.conf file
LoadModule php5_modulemodules/libphp5.so
AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
All
Ken Gunderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
# /bin/sh -c 'foo=a; echo b | read foo; echo $foo'
a
# /bin/ksh -c 'foo=a; echo b | read foo; echo $foo'
a
( FAO Mr Carlson :) )
It's ksh but not as we know it, Jim.
/bin/ksh93 -c 'foo=a; echo b | read foo; echo $foo'
(I.e.,
OK, so last night after everything was restored verified we did a push
from the staging server for /all/ directories.
So the dlc machines should now be up to date.
For folks with push accounts:
If you have a push account/manage a directory all of your data should
now be in sync between
ok, there's a typo on www.sunfreeware.com
should be
LoadModule php5_module modules/libphp5.so
not php_5_module like it says!
adam
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On Feb 7, 2008 1:45 PM, Ken Gunderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 12:53:04 -0600
Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Feb 7, 2008 12:42 PM, a b [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, they have, and what's why it needs to be changed :)
Oh wait...you were talking about
Except HP-UX is dead/dormant for all practical purposes. HP is on the
GNU/Linux bandwagon now.
While it might be true that hp is on the Linux bandwagon now, HP-UX hardware
still makes 17% of the overall hp revenue, and, I told you already, HP-UX is
not dead but being actively worked on.
You
cpio has a bug with hard link handling that will cause real problems
if you use the outdated mkisofs that currently comes with Solaris.
What kind of bug (it always works for me and makes the proper hardlinks)
Casper
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On Feb 7, 2008 10:42 AM, Kyle McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Shawn Walker wrote:
On Feb 6, 2008 4:14 PM, Kyle McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Shawn Walker wrote:
On Feb 6, 2008 3:37 PM, Kyle McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Shawn Walker wrote:
On Feb 6, 2008 3:18 PM, a
You could try a program called isomaster
On Thu, 2008-02-07 at 16:54 +, Chris Linton-Ford wrote:
On Thu, 2008-02-07 at 06:08 -0800, Roman Morokutti wrote:
Hi,
I am stuck on how to patch an install image which is
currently an ISO-image with bits that support a ZFS
root. The
Chris Linton-Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ISOs can't be mounted read-write. You need to mount, copy the files out,
edit them then recreate the ISO with mkisofs. I did this with the HP
CPQary driver disk - be warned, it can be fiddly.
For my example CPQary3.iso file:
# mkdir /mnt/ddisk
#
On Feb 7, 2008 9:59 AM, Joerg Schilling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The long-term view is that other platforms will have a POSIX shell at
#!/bin/sh and OpenSolaris, in my view, should have one as well to meet
those changing market conditions.
How about
Hi all,
As a non-Sun expert, I am considering buying an E10K
as a file server for a business.
It would come with a StorEdge with 12 x 73GB drives.
Are you sure that you mean an E10K?
I'd say: don't do it: it's expensive to run, it's old
and therefor not
fast; it consumes a
On Feb 6, 2008 4:14 PM, Kyle McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Shawn Walker wrote:
On Feb 6, 2008 3:37 PM, Kyle McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Shawn Walker wrote:
On Feb 6, 2008 3:18 PM, a b [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh, and as far as the enterprise argument, go talk to some of
On Feb 7, 2008 5:10 AM, Joerg Schilling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A modern shell, such as ksh93, has functionality and locale support
that is near equivalent or superior to bash.
Are you talking about the report against /bin/sh that claims a bug because
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joerg Schilling) wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
cpio has a bug with hard link handling that will cause real problems
if you use the outdated mkisofs that currently comes with Solaris.
What kind of bug (it always works for me and makes the proper hardlinks)
Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The long-term view is that other platforms will have a POSIX shell at
#!/bin/sh and OpenSolaris, in my view, should have one as well to meet
those changing market conditions.
How about running the following test on various platforms:
/bin/sh -c
I have it running on OpenSolaris, I don't suggest anything I have not
tested.
Thanks
Dave
On Thu, 2008-02-07 at 19:53 +, Sean Sprague wrote:
David,
You could try a program called isomaster
As a Solaris X86 Evangelist, you suggest a program that is only currently
available for
On Feb 7, 2008 1:53 PM, Sean Sprague [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
David,
You could try a program called isomaster
As a Solaris X86 Evangelist, you suggest a program that is only currently
available for Linux and Windows? Very poor
indeed IMO.
http://www.littlesvr.ca/isomaster/download/
Hi,
I am stuck on how to patch an install image which is
currently an ISO-image with bits that support a ZFS
root. The problem is that after mounting the ISO-file
the mount directory is read-only. Every attempt to make
it writable fails. I do not know exactly but I can imagine
that this is due
On Feb 7, 2008 12:42 PM, a b [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, they have, and what's why it needs to be changed :)
Oh wait...you were talking about Solaris ;)
I think this is too harsh. If you were working on HP-UX, you'd find
that the OS is even more rigid in not changing anything than
On Feb 7, 2008 1:08 AM, Ken Gunderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do you have any actual enterprise systems admin experience? And if so,
I'd be curious as to what platforms. Or is your role more primarily
along the lines of Open/Solaris evangelist? Just curious so I can
understand where you're
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
cpio has a bug with hard link handling that will cause real problems
if you use the outdated mkisofs that currently comes with Solaris.
What kind of bug (it always works for me and makes the proper hardlinks)
Run setup-install-server on a recent Solaris
Derek Cicero wrote:
OK, so last night after everything was restored verified we did a push
from the staging server for /all/ directories.
So the dlc machines should now be up to date.
For folks with push accounts:
If you have a push account/manage a directory all of your data should
David,
Apols, I did not mean/wish to impune you earlier - I was just feeling a little
subversive ;-)
Regards... Sean.
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Accepted
I got lots of neat stuff :-)
Dave
On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 01:03 +, Sean Sprague wrote:
David,
Apols, I did not mean/wish to impune you earlier - I was just feeling a
little subversive ;-)
Regards... Sean.
David Clack
Solaris X86 Evangelist
Senior Systems
The functionality to change shell is in passwd, but there is a
completely wrong check in there.
See CR 6638715 Checks in passwd should be authorisation based, not uid based
Which I logged a few weeks back.
Back onto the Let's replace /bin/sh with insert my favourite shell
thread, ...
The bit
On Feb 7, 2008 9:16 PM, Alan Hargreaves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The bit that everyone putting forward this argument seems to overlook is
the sheer number of scripts in ON that are written for the bourne shell.
Each and every one of these would need to be verified against the new
shell. We are
John Plocher wrote:
I didn't define it (because it is defined in section 7.5 of the Constitution);
they show up here in 2.2:
Duh, completely missed that - though I wonder what proportion of either the
Facilitator or the project proposer mail the Project Herald in reality? To some
extents
Joerg Schilling wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
cpio has a bug with hard link handling that will cause real problems
if you use the outdated mkisofs that currently comes with Solaris.
What kind of bug (it always works for me and makes the proper hardlinks)
Run
I'm using sharesmb (b82) in my home office server with XP W2K clients.
Upgrades have caused some hickups and the smbpasswd file had been reset for me
but that is addressed now.
I can not get my hands around how file protection should be set up. currently a
file written into the zfs share does
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