Re: [osol-discuss] [ksh93-integration-discuss] [on-discuss] Emergency project to rescue Opensolaris from IBM (was: Re: Possible IBM aquisition of Sun)

2009-03-25 Thread Glenn Fowler
J?rg, I don't recall if you were at the 1986 Denver usenix discussions that yielded pax, but the rancor of the tar/cpio discussions up to that point made it clear that a single tar or single cpio only solution would be impossible -- basically a hung jury since most of the disagreement was on the

Re: [osol-discuss] [ksh93-integration-discuss] [on-discuss] Emergency project to rescue Opensolaris from IBM (was: Re: Possible IBM aquisition of Sun)

2009-03-25 Thread David Korn
cc: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org on-disc...@opensolaris.org Subject: Re: Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] [osol-discuss] [on-discuss] Emergency project to rescue Opensolaris from IBM (was: Re: Possible IBM aquisition of Sun) Joerg Schilling joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de

Re: [osol-discuss] [ksh93-integration-discuss] [on-discuss] Emergency project to rescue Opensolaris from IBM (was: Re: Possible IBM aquisition of Sun)

2009-03-25 Thread Joerg Schilling
David Korn d...@research.att.com wrote: Not to mention that it was star, Solaris added the lseek(f, pos, SEEK_HOLE) for to allow star to archive 100% accurate holey files. Since pax is implemented using the sfio library for stdio it also handles files with holes. In fact the AST cp

Re: [osol-discuss] [ksh93-integration-discuss] [on-discuss] Emergency project to rescue Opensolaris from IBM (was: Re: Possible IBM aquisition of Sun)

2009-03-25 Thread Joerg Schilling
Glenn Fowler g...@research.att.com wrote: J?rg, I don't recall if you were at the 1986 Denver usenix discussions that yielded pax, but the rancor of the tar/cpio discussions up to that point made it clear that a single tar or single cpio only solution would be impossible -- basically a hung

Re: [osol-discuss] [ksh93-integration-discuss] [on-discuss] Emergency project to rescue Opensolaris from IBM (was: Re: Possible IBM aquisition of Sun)

2009-03-25 Thread Ignacio Marambio Catán
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Joerg Schilling joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: Glenn Fowler g...@research.att.com wrote: J?rg, I don't recall if you were at the 1986 Denver usenix discussions that yielded pax, but the rancor of the tar/cpio discussions up to that point made it

Re: [osol-discuss] [ksh93-integration-discuss] [on-discuss] Emergency project to rescue Opensolaris from IBM (was: Re: Possible IBM aquisition of Sun)

2009-03-25 Thread Joerg Schilling
Ignacio Marambio Catán darkjo...@gmail.com wrote: why are we having this argument? I believe it leads nowhere. Any open source tool aiming to replace the closed bits should just go through formal review like the rest of the changes do. These discussions are a waste of time and bandwidth star

Re: [osol-discuss] [ksh93-integration-discuss] [on-discuss] Emergency project to rescue Opensolaris from IBM (was: Re: Possible IBM aquisition of Sun)

2009-03-25 Thread Casper . Dik
Ignacio Marambio Cat=E1n darkjo...@gmail.com wrote: why are we having this argument? I believe it leads nowhere. Any op= en source tool aiming to replace the closed bits should just go throug= h formal review like the rest of the changes do. These discussions ar= e a waste of time and

Re: [osol-discuss] [ksh93-integration-discuss] [on-discuss] Emergency project to rescue Opensolaris from IBM (was: Re: Possible IBM aquisition of Sun)

2009-03-25 Thread Ignacio Marambio Catán
And what happened after the review was aprobed exactly? were test packages provided? someone at sun checked them for compliance and code review? why? why not? On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Joerg Schilling joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: Ignacio Marambio Catán darkjo...@gmail.com

Re: [osol-discuss] [ksh93-integration-discuss] [on-discuss] Emergency project to rescue Opensolaris from IBM (was: Re: Possible IBM aquisition of Sun)

2009-03-25 Thread Jennifer Pioch
On 3/25/09, Ignacio Marambio Catán darkjo...@gmail.com wrote: And what happened after the review was aprobed exactly? were test packages provided? someone at sun checked them for compliance and code review? why? why not? Jörg is only interested in trolling and vaporware announcements. He's

Re: [osol-discuss] [ksh93-integration-discuss] [on-discuss] Emergency project to rescue Opensolaris from IBM (was: Re: Possible IBM aquisition of Sun)

2009-03-25 Thread Jennifer Pioch
On 3/25/09, Joerg Schilling joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: Ignacio Marambio Catán darkjo...@gmail.com wrote: why are we having this argument? I believe it leads nowhere. Any open source tool aiming to replace the closed bits should just go through formal review like the rest

Re: [osol-discuss] [ksh93-integration-discuss] [on-discuss] Emergency project to rescue Opensolaris from IBM (was: Re: Possible IBM aquisition of Sun)

2009-03-25 Thread Ignacio Marambio Catán
This isnt very constructive either, it is also not true, wasnt he the one that created the first opensolaris distribution with schillix? i'd say that ia a fairly big contribution because i'm sure others built from that work. 2009/3/25 Jennifer Pioch piochjenni...@googlemail.com: On 3/25/09,

Re: [osol-discuss] [ksh93-integration-discuss] [on-discuss] Emergency project to rescue Opensolaris from IBM (was: Re: Possible IBM aquisition of Sun)

2009-03-25 Thread Joerg Schilling
Jennifer Pioch piochjenni...@googlemail.com wrote: On 3/25/09, Ignacio Marambio Catán darkjo...@gmail.com wrote: And what happened after the review was aprobed exactly? were test packages provided? someone at sun checked them for compliance and code review? why? why not? Jörg is only

Re: [osol-discuss] [ksh93-integration-discuss] [on-discuss] Emergency project to rescue Opensolaris from IBM (was: Re: Possible IBM aquisition of Sun)

2009-03-25 Thread Jennifer Pioch
On 3/25/09, Ignacio Marambio Catán darkjo...@gmail.com wrote: This isnt very constructive either, it is also not true, When did Jörg contribute a line of code which is now part of ON or SFW? Time, date and location, please. Really, I'm upset about Jörgs flame wars, spitting and pissing against

Re: [osol-discuss] [ksh93-integration-discuss] [on-discuss] Emergency project to rescue Opensolaris from IBM (was: Re: Possible IBM aquisition of Sun)

2009-03-25 Thread Joerg Schilling
Ignacio Marambio Catán darkjo...@gmail.com wrote: This isnt very constructive either, it is also not true, wasnt he the one that created the first opensolaris distribution with schillix? i'd say that ia a fairly big contribution because i'm sure others built from that work. thank you for

Re: [osol-discuss] [ksh93-integration-discuss] [on-discuss] Emergency project to rescue Opensolaris from IBM (was: Re: Possible IBM aquisition of Sun)

2009-03-25 Thread Casper . Dik
For me, finishing the star integration is some kind of verification on whether OpenSolaris is a project where it is possible to implement previous agreements - so it is a matter of credibility of the OpenSolaris project. For you, yes. For others it's probably not that important. As you are

Re: [osol-discuss] [ksh93-integration-discuss] [on-discuss] Emergency project to rescue Opensolaris from IBM (was: Re: Possible IBM aquisition of Sun)

2009-03-25 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 3/25/09, Ignacio Marambio Catán darkjo...@gmail.com wrote: This isnt very constructive either, it is also not true, Noises deleted If Jörg continues this path I'd propose to throw Mr. Jörg out of opensolaris. I agree that *someone* should be banned out of the OpenSolaris community

Re: [osol-discuss] [ksh93-integration-discuss] [on-discuss] Emergency project to rescue Opensolaris from IBM (was: Re: Possible IBM aquisition of Sun)

2009-03-25 Thread Josh Hurst
On 3/25/09, Dennis Clarke dcla...@blastwave.org wrote: On 3/25/09, Ignacio Marambio Catán darkjo...@gmail.com wrote: This isnt very constructive either, it is also not true, Noises deleted If Jörg continues this path I'd propose to throw Mr. Jörg out of opensolaris. I agree

Re: [osol-discuss] [ksh93-integration-discuss] [on-discuss] Emergency project to rescue Opensolaris from IBM (was: Re: Possible IBM aquisition of Sun)

2009-03-25 Thread Josh Hurst
On 3/25/09, Joerg Schilling joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: Jennifer Pioch piochjenni...@googlemail.com wrote: On 3/25/09, Ignacio Marambio Catán darkjo...@gmail.com wrote: And what happened after the review was aprobed exactly? were test packages provided? someone at sun

Re: [osol-discuss] [ksh93-integration-discuss] [on-discuss] Emergency project to rescue Opensolaris from IBM (was: Re: Possible IBM aquisition of Sun)

2009-03-25 Thread Joerg Schilling
casper@sun.com wrote: For me, finishing the star integration is some kind of verification on whether OpenSolaris is a project where it is possible to implement previous agreements - so it is a matter of credibility of the OpenSolaris project. For you, yes. For others it's probably not

Re: [osol-discuss] [ksh93-integration-discuss] [on-discuss] Emergency project to rescue Opensolaris from IBM (was: Re: Possible IBM aquisition of Sun)

2009-03-25 Thread Viktor Cemasko
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:18:17 +0100, Josh Hurst wrote: FYI joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de has been banned from the kernel.org and Freebsd lists, maybe Opensolaris should do the same. And?A! Bingo! Eat s**t – a zillion flies can’t be wrong. -- Best regards, Cemasko Viktor.