Re: [osol-discuss] root: role or account?

2008-07-15 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Fredrich Maney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is no more of a security hole than giving the root password to > the system administrator or allowing them to boot from alternative > media. It is a procedural exposure at best, not a technical one. At > some point, you simply have to trust the ad

Re: [osol-discuss] root: role or account?

2008-07-15 Thread Fredrich Maney
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 4:18 AM, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Moinak Ghosh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > Profiles are data base entries for pfexec and tell pfexec how to set up >> > privs >> > for specific programs. I know of no eay to disable a profile for specific >> > prog

Re: [osol-discuss] root: role or account?

2008-07-15 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Moinak Ghosh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Profiles are data base entries for pfexec and tell pfexec how to set up > > privs > > for specific programs. I know of no eay to disable a profile for specific > > program families. > > > > You could clear the privilege PRIV_PROC_SETID to make pfexec

Re: [osol-discuss] root: role or account?

2008-07-14 Thread Moinak Ghosh
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 12:34 AM, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Moinak Ghosh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> >insecure applications like firefox into /etc/security/exec_attr >> >> >that takes away this to be defined PRIV_PROC_PFEXEC privilege >> >> >from

Re: [osol-discuss] root: role or account?

2008-07-14 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Moinak Ghosh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >insecure applications like firefox into /etc/security/exec_attr > >> >that takes away this to be defined PRIV_PROC_PFEXEC privilege > >> >from these applications. > >> > >>This is a good point but I do not think that a new

Re: [osol-discuss] root: role or account?

2008-07-14 Thread Moinak Ghosh
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:52 PM, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Moinak Ghosh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > - Add a new privileges(5) privilege that allows to disallow to use >> >pfexec. >> > >> >This would be needed in order prevent unwanted use of pfexec

Re: [osol-discuss] root: role or account?

2008-07-14 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Moinak Ghosh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Add a new privileges(5) privilege that allows to disallow to use > >pfexec. > > > >This would be needed in order prevent unwanted use of pfexec from > >privileged accounts. I recommend to add an entry for exposed or > >

Re: [osol-discuss] root: role or account?

2008-07-14 Thread Moinak Ghosh
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joerg Schilling) wrote: > > As there is nothing like OpenSolaris Architecture Design, I take this list > > >> James Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > Doing this should fix the problem: >> >

Re: [osol-discuss] root: role or account?

2008-07-14 Thread Joerg Schilling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joerg Schilling) wrote: As there is nothing like OpenSolaris Architecture Design, I take this list > James Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Doing this should fix the problem: > > > > % pfexec pkg install SUNWscp > > BTW: I am still interested in an answer for the

Re: [osol-discuss] root: role or account?

2008-07-10 Thread Joerg Schilling
"john g4lt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There is a degradation of security if you use a pf*sh shell and as the > > The only security degradation is one of Social Engineering, that is, > SOMEONE gave the user more privileges than they should have been > trusted with. Net lesson here, UNIX gives

Re: [osol-discuss] root: role or account?

2008-07-09 Thread john g4lt
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 4:46 AM, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "john g4lt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Why would you use pfsh as a shell, it's horribly limited. If one sets >> pfsh as their $SHELL, it's pretty much intentional that all commands >> are run with elevated privileges

Re: [osol-discuss] root: role or account?

2008-07-09 Thread Joerg Schilling
"john g4lt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why would you use pfsh as a shell, it's horribly limited. If one sets > pfsh as their $SHELL, it's pretty much intentional that all commands > are run with elevated privileges, assuming that the user has the > capability to run with them, so any elevated p

Re: [osol-discuss] root: role or account?

2008-07-08 Thread john g4lt
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 2:32 AM, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > James Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Doing this should fix the problem: >> >> % pfexec pkg install SUNWscp > > BTW: I am still interested in an answer for the pfexec usage > > If you like to propagate the ma

Re: [osol-discuss] root: role or account?

2008-07-08 Thread Jan Friedel
Hi Joerg, On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 10:32:03AM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: > James Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Doing this should fix the problem: > > > > % pfexec pkg install SUNWscp > > BTW: I am still interested in an answer for the pfexec usage > > If you like to

[osol-discuss] root: role or account?

2008-07-08 Thread Joerg Schilling
James Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Doing this should fix the problem: > > % pfexec pkg install SUNWscp BTW: I am still interested in an answer for the pfexec usage If you like to propagate the manual use of pfexec, you would need to make the pf*sh shells outdated. People who have