Re: [opensource-dev] [solved?] Re: SLPlugin lagging my viewer like crazy, maybe it was a bad idea from the start?

2010-03-26 Thread Frans
We have already seen the first sandwich men in SL, experiments with that have happened early on. One of those times was I believe 06, during the beginning of the hype. It came to be because of the LlLoadURL function, for the first time it was possible to link to the web from a Object. -- Jeroen

Re: [opensource-dev] [solved?] Re: SLPlugin lagging my viewer like crazy, maybe it was a bad idea from the start?

2010-03-26 Thread Glen Canaday
zOmg ty. I know have my first wearable html prim object project. I couldn't think of a *use* for that!! --GC On 03/26/2010 04:29 AM, Lance Corrimal wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 24. März 2010 23:58:39 schrieb Tayra Dagostino: > >> On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:39:00 +0100 >> >> Lance Corrimal wrote: >>

Re: [opensource-dev] Open Development project: extendingavatar wearables

2010-03-26 Thread Jacek Antonelli
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Nyx Linden wrote: > > We're trying to make the system as flexible as possible. Think of it > this way: you have a bunch of 'categories' or 'slots' - one for each > type of wearable (pants, shirts, jackets). Inside each category, you can > have multiple items up to

Re: [opensource-dev] Open Development project: extending avatar wearables

2010-03-26 Thread Joel Foner
This is a pretty generic question, but I hope it will be helpful. Under what conditions might it be possible to do a fairly quick to release version and then iterate the feature behavior towards something more sophisticated, without breaking things? Best regards, Joel On 3/26/10, Carlo Wood wr

Re: [opensource-dev] Open Development project: extendingavatarwearables

2010-03-26 Thread Carlo Wood
Jonathan, I have no disrespect at all for Nyx. And yes, it's highly appreciated that he asks us for input instead of just implementing it. Still, if nothing in his original design is going to be changed then the effect is almost the same; except if this list is convinced that his original design

Re: [opensource-dev] [solved?] Re: SLPlugin lagging my viewer like crazy, maybe it was a bad idea from the start?

2010-03-26 Thread Tigro Spottystripes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I believe those are called "sandwich men" On 26/3/2010 05:29, Lance Corrimal wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 24. März 2010 23:58:39 schrieb Tayra Dagostino: >> On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:39:00 +0100 >> >> Lance Corrimal wrote: >>> Anyways, shouldn't SLPlugin exit w

Re: [opensource-dev] Open Development project: extendingavatarwearables

2010-03-26 Thread Tigro Spottystripes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This clean slate would need additional texture swatches for the other components of existing types of wearables, including the gradients for the different cuts (sleeve length, cleavage amount etc On 26/3/2010 10:39, Argent Stonecutter wrote: > > On 2

Re: [opensource-dev] Open Development project: extendingavatarwearables

2010-03-26 Thread Jonathan Irvin
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 06:56, Carlo Wood wrote: > It bothers me a bit that we (you) would choose to go > for an implementation that is not the best or the > ideal one, ONLY because you want to push out a new > feature "in time". > *Carlo, it pains me to see you have this attitude towards the Li

Re: [opensource-dev] Open Development project: extendingavatarwearables

2010-03-26 Thread Mike Monkowski
Nyx Linden wrote: > It would also require completely de-constructing the current layers > system, and rebuilding it based on the added parameters (I'd actually > argue making the parameters part of the links used to create an outfit, > not the wearables themselves but that's a side note). A whi

Re: [opensource-dev] Open Development project: extendingavatarwearables

2010-03-26 Thread Dzonatas Sol
+1 A 'change type' feature isn't needed for this project. Nyx's proposed category layout can override the type as old types are just hints. Possible with an ability to just drag-n-drop a wearable between categories. The proposed outfit list would allow more for arbitrary lists that wouldn't de

Re: [opensource-dev] Open Development project: extendingavatarwearables

2010-03-26 Thread Robert Martin
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Argent Stonecutter wrote: Doing this right (ie, starting from a clean slate, or going to 'new type' clothing with legacy wearables mapped to the new scheme when edited): 1. All tops would have a lower part. It would just be empty for many wearables. 2. The defaul

Re: [opensource-dev] Open Development project: extendingavatarwearables

2010-03-26 Thread Argent Stonecutter
On 2010-03-26, at 08:17, Carlo Wood wrote: > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 07:39:39AM -0500, Argent Stonecutter wrote: >>> Assume that the project will result in jackets >>> (the canonical example) can be tucked in and/or being >>> worn under shirts. Would you really still need it to >>> be converted t

Re: [opensource-dev] Open Development project: extendingavatarwearables

2010-03-26 Thread Carlo Wood
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 07:39:39AM -0500, Argent Stonecutter wrote: > >Assume that the project will result in jackets > >(the canonical example) can be tucked in and/or being > >worn under shirts. Would you really still need it to > >be converted to a shirt? > > If the project was going to achieve

Re: [opensource-dev] Open Development project: extendingavatarwearables

2010-03-26 Thread Argent Stonecutter
On 2010-03-26, at 07:06, Carlo Wood wrote: > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 05:41:10AM -0500, Argent Stonecutter wrote: >> I'm not proposing "wear as undershirt". >> >> I'm proposing "convert this into an undershirt". > > But with what goal? I've got dozens of vests and shirts and jackets on the "wrong"

Re: [opensource-dev] [META] Communication tools (was: Request for clarification on mailing list guidelines)

2010-03-26 Thread Aleric Inglewood
I'd prefer it if the meeting was NOT during 9-11 pm my time (CET)... but immediately after it, or immediately before it. Alternatively 1-3 pm my time could be a good alternative. Now to convert that to PST ... I believe that most of the winter and summer the difference is 9 hours, even though at t

Re: [opensource-dev] Open Development project: extendingavatarwearables

2010-03-26 Thread Carlo Wood
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 05:41:10AM -0500, Argent Stonecutter wrote: > I'm not proposing "wear as undershirt". > > I'm proposing "convert this into an undershirt". But with what goal? If the goal is to be able to tuck a jacket in and wear it below other shirts, then I think it's too much of a hack

Re: [opensource-dev] Open Development project: extendingavatarwearables (TPV policy implications)

2010-03-26 Thread Argent Stonecutter
On 2010-03-25, at 18:56, Nyx Linden wrote: > However, if you'd like to code up a conversion routine for snowglobe > or a third party viewer, please do so! Let me know if you need any > information about our wearables system to do so. Wait a second, are you saying that if a viewer allowed "wear

Re: [opensource-dev] Open Development project: extendingavatarwearables

2010-03-26 Thread Carlo Wood
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:48:24PM +0100, Latif Khalifa wrote: > Not to mention that some span over more than one bake, like jacket, > tattoo and alpha. I don't think changing wearable type is feasible. +1 The type is the type. Converting types will lead us nowhere. -- Carlo Wood _

Re: [opensource-dev] Open Development project: extendingavatarwearables

2010-03-26 Thread Carlo Wood
It bothers me a bit that we (you) would choose to go for an implementation that is not the best or the ideal one, ONLY because you want to push out a new feature "in time". Personally, I'd first design how I'd want it to look from the user point of view (what most of the discussion from the commun

Re: [opensource-dev] Open Development project: extendingavatarwearables

2010-03-26 Thread Anders Arnholm
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 07:56:00PM -0400, Nyx Linden wrote: > further that such a system would only be effective for wearables you > have copy + mod permissions for. No worries for your own creation, but > few sold clothing pieces are so liberal to my understanding. Imho, the usable part be a "

Re: [opensource-dev] Open Development project: extendingavatarwearables

2010-03-26 Thread Argent Stonecutter
On 2010-03-25, at 18:56, Nyx Linden wrote: > Its more than two sliders. Quite frankly I don't believe this is an > acceptable solution to ship in our main client for this particular > issue - a user would expect "wear as undershirt" to "just work". I'm not proposing "wear as undershirt". I'm

Re: [opensource-dev] [solved?] Re: SLPlugin lagging my viewer like crazy, maybe it was a bad idea from the start?

2010-03-26 Thread Lance Corrimal
Am Mittwoch, 24. März 2010 23:58:39 schrieb Tayra Dagostino: > On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:39:00 +0100 > > Lance Corrimal wrote: > > Anyways, shouldn't SLPlugin exit when it is done doing what it > > thought it should be doing? > > installed and configured Pulseaudio > now only ONE SLPlugin thread exe