Re: [opensource-dev] Viewers in the directory are being impersonated already

2010-04-12 Thread Rob Nelson
Certain griefer viewers already bypass this form of profiling. I won't detail how. Fred Rookstown On Mon, 2010-04-12 at 16:03 -0700, Erik Anderson wrote: > Yah, but it might start looking a bit suspicious if it looks like > you're using computers as one-time pads, always using a different > syst

Re: [opensource-dev] IRC bridge for brown-bag, Tuesday 4/13 noon PDT

2010-04-12 Thread Joe Linden
I will also try to provide a dial-in bridge (using the AvaLine access numbers) for access to the voice channel for people who can't (or won't) make it in-world. I'll post the dialing information for that as soon as I've fully tested it in the proximal channel we're using tomorrow. -- joe On Mon,

[opensource-dev] IRC bridge for brown-bag, Tuesday 4/13 noon PDT

2010-04-12 Thread Latha Serevi
Although Joe's brown-bag Tuesday noon PDT is taking place via SL voice, some of us SL interop folks will try to provide as decent an IRC bridge of the text chat portion as we can manage, to the channel irc://irc.quickfox.net/groupies The bridge will be bidirectional and we'll do what we can to

[opensource-dev] Extra Hippo meeting

2010-04-12 Thread Philippe (Merov) Bossut
Hi, We had this discussion going for a while o this list (how to communicate better) and one thing that emerged was to help another meeting IW during the week so that people who can't attend the first one can attend the other. At the last Hippo meeting, we decided that this new meeting will be on

Re: [opensource-dev] [server-beta] Havok 7 Testing Info

2010-04-12 Thread Tigro Spottystripes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 (crossposting this since i got a message telling me i'm not expected to post on the server beta list without moderation and i feel this message should reach the Ls) I believe it would be a good idea to keep H7 in testing stage until a bit of time afte

Re: [opensource-dev] VC 2010 Express?

2010-04-12 Thread Nicky Perian
Working on VC 2008 Express at present. Can compile and run but have been unable complete the build into a redistributable package. Plan to leverage the leaning into VC 2010 Express. NickyP From: Tillie Ariantho To: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com Sent: M

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewers in the directory are being impersonated already

2010-04-12 Thread Erik Anderson
Yah, but it might start looking a bit suspicious if it looks like you're using computers as one-time pads, always using a different system for each connection for a certain account? Might not be as easily detectable for the short-term accounts that get banned within minutes, but anything with hist

[opensource-dev] VC 2010 Express?

2010-04-12 Thread Tillie Ariantho
Hello, anyone downloaded VC 2010 Express yet and tried to compile SL with it? http://www.microsoft.com/express/Downloads/#2010-Visual-CPP Tillie ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev P

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewers in the directory are being impersonated already

2010-04-12 Thread Dale Glass
В сообщении от Вторник 13 апреля 2010 00:52:48 вы написали: > There's still other facets. For example, the approved viewers get some > publicity and reputation by being on the approved viewers page, and it > makes people think that much harder about using sketchy viewers to do > sketchy things.

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewers in the directory are being impersonated already

2010-04-12 Thread Boroondas Gupte
On 04/12/2010 10:52 PM, Celierra Darling wrote: > (As an aside, connecting from the same account and/or same IP with > random MACs seems pretty obviously strange and detectable. Does it? I'd assume someone testing network cards of different manufacturers for SL compatibility would cause a very simi

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewers in the directory are being impersonated already

2010-04-12 Thread Celierra Darling
There's still other facets. For example, the approved viewers get some publicity and reputation by being on the approved viewers page, and it makes people think that much harder about using sketchy viewers to do sketchy things. (And yeah, they have to do one extra sketchy thing, as Thomas mention

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewers in the directory are being impersonated already

2010-04-12 Thread Thomas Grimshaw
This was always going to happen, and it will continue to happen. Of course in this case, the "proxy" counts as the third party viewer really, and is in violation of the TPV. Not that violating the TPV really matters. Tom. Dale Glass wrote: > Today I heard that there's already a proxy available

[opensource-dev] Viewers in the directory are being impersonated already

2010-04-12 Thread Dale Glass
Today I heard that there's already a proxy available that makes a viewer appear to be one of those in the directory of officially approved third party viewers. It also randomizes the MAC. I'd rather not link to it, but it's not hard to find. So, I wonder, what now? Does LL have some way of tell

Re: [opensource-dev] Accepting the INTENT but not accepting the TPV

2010-04-12 Thread Martin Spernau
As much as I dislike(d) the ongoing discussion about the TPVP, I DO love this suggestion Laughter (and sillyness) is alwa the best answer to any problem - thanks for suggesting this Am 12.04.2010 um 21:41 schrieb Morgaine: A few people have made the rather extraordinary suggestion that the

[opensource-dev] Accepting the INTENT but not accepting the TPV

2010-04-12 Thread Morgaine
A few people have made the rather extraordinary suggestion that the TPV is "OK" because the intent is good, no matter how dreadful its wording. They ignore the fact that what matters in court is the actual wording. It is the *words* that a user must agree to, not the intent. Faced with the silli

Re: [opensource-dev] Two Worlds

2010-04-12 Thread aklo
Do you mean something like an interface that allows us to do this: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SNOW-375 Yes!! That's part of it, anyway. The main point i was trying to make is that i see there as being (at least) two very different types of user communities for SL. One community is like

Re: [opensource-dev] Two Worlds

2010-04-12 Thread Dzonatas Sol
a...@skyhighway.com wrote: > For the Big Picture SL presentation i can see something like all the SL > windows, including all the chat, inventory, group, etc - everything (even > HUDs?), being just windows for the OS with the VW its own window that > maybe is maximized and maybe isn't. In maximize

Re: [opensource-dev] FMOD 3.75 not available

2010-04-12 Thread Boroondas Gupte
On 04/12/2010 12:47 PM, Laurent Bechir wrote: > It seems that fmod 3.75 is not available anymore on fmod.org website. What do > you use to build the sources of the viewer ? > The download URL changed. You'll now find the files at http://www.fmod.org/files/fmod3/ See SNOW-600

[opensource-dev] FMOD 3.75 not available

2010-04-12 Thread Laurent Bechir
Hello, It seems that fmod 3.75 is not available anymore on fmod.org website. What do you use to build the sources of the viewer ? Thank you ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Pleas