Re: [opensource-dev] Display names, again.

2010-08-23 Thread Tateru Nino
On 24/08/2010 5:05 AM, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: On 2010-08-23 14:57, Will wrote: Oz, what is Linden Labs position on Emerald and will they be making a public announcement? (not a lawyer just a concerned resident, remember them?) This is not the place to make any such statement. I

Re: [opensource-dev] Display names, again.

2010-08-23 Thread Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)
On 2010-08-23 14:57, Will wrote: Oz, what is Linden Labs position on Emerald and will they be making a public announcement? (not a lawyer just a concerned resident, remember them?) This is not the place to make any such statement. I believe that one will be coming out in due time, but declin

Re: [opensource-dev] Display names, again.

2010-08-23 Thread Will
] Display names, again. On 2010-08-23 11:50, Moriz Gupte wrote: @Oz Linden, I feel your pain of being submerged with noise, but unfortunately this is the price you have to pay for listening. And you cannot afford not to listen because there are gems in that noise that will help your own work and

Re: [opensource-dev] Display names, again.

2010-08-23 Thread Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)
On 2010-08-23 11:50, Moriz Gupte wrote: @Oz Linden, I feel your pain of being submerged with noise, but unfortunately this is the price you have to pay for listening. And you cannot afford not to listen because there are gems in that noise that will help your own work and LL in general. So tak

Re: [opensource-dev] Display names, again.

2010-08-23 Thread Moriz Gupte
Thanks David, share your sentiments and logic. Would not have overloaded the list, but guess this is one of the venues that is heard most. Totally agree with "Lame Internet lawyers are lame. How many lawsuits have their been over the fact that it's easy to have a name that's very similar to someon

Re: [opensource-dev] Display names, again.

2010-08-23 Thread David M Chess
This post could be a classroom lesson in "how to alienate people and not be taken seriously". Daniel Smith : >>> 1. Will there be procedures in place to prevent someone else to use my >>> true avatar name as their display name? >> >>No. > > Wrong answer. Actually it's the right answer! The qu

Re: [opensource-dev] Display names, again.

2010-08-22 Thread Lance Corrimal
Am Saturday 21 August 2010 schrieb Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence): > This list is really not the place for this discussion - the Display > Names blog comment area is much better. /me collapses with laughter ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information avail

Re: [opensource-dev] Display names, again.

2010-08-21 Thread Suz Dollar
Sorry, if this is a duplicate, but I didn't see it come through to the list and am assuming I did something wrong :) My biggest concern here is that the chat logs (local, group, IM) register both display and user name as a mandatory part of how chat logs work. This will forcefully create way to

Re: [opensource-dev] Display names, again.

2010-08-21 Thread Baloo Uriza
On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 12:20:38 -0700, Daniel Smith wrote: > On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) < > o...@lindenlab.com> wrote: > >> Actually, I think that the answers to your questions are clear from >> the published material, Lance, but here... >> >> > 1. Will there be pr

Re: [opensource-dev] Display names, again.

2010-08-21 Thread Baloo Uriza
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 12:15:12 +0200, Marine Kelley wrote: > The damage done to the reputation of a well known resident can be > immeasurable. It would be irresponsible of LL to let someone impersonate > someone else without giving any way to let the other people around to > see CLEARLY the differen

Re: [opensource-dev] Display names, again.

2010-08-21 Thread Daniel Smith
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) < o...@lindenlab.com> wrote: > Actually, I think that the answers to your questions are clear from > the published material, Lance, but here... > > > 1. Will there be procedures in place to prevent someone else to use my > > true avatar

Re: [opensource-dev] Display names, again.

2010-08-21 Thread Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)
Actually, I think that the answers to your questions are clear from the published material, Lance, but here... > 1. Will there be procedures in place to prevent someone else to use my > true avatar name as their display name? No. > 2. Will there be procedures in place to prevent someone from

Re: [opensource-dev] Display names, again.

2010-08-21 Thread Carlo Wood
I'm not a Linden, but I think the answers to your questions exist before they are implemented :p. > 1. Will there be procedures in place to prevent someone else to use my > true avatar name as their display name? No, the display name will be distinguishable by color or graphical-something around

Re: [opensource-dev] Display names, again.

2010-08-20 Thread Suz Dollar
My biggest concern here is that the chat logs (local, group, IM) register both display and user name as a mandatory part of how chat logs work. This will forcefully create way to document that so and so was impersonating someone else and acting in a manner unacceptable to the real person. I'm n

Re: [opensource-dev] Display names, again.

2010-08-20 Thread Marine Kelley
That's not my job, I am a customer in LL's standpoint, I don't work for them. I already talked about possible ways to distinguish a display name from a user name, for example by putting the display name into brackets in chatlogs and offline IMs (which are plain text and html respectively), while u

Re: [opensource-dev] Display names, again.

2010-08-20 Thread Stickman
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 3:15 AM, Marine Kelley wrote: > damage is done, it is too late. It is CAPITAL that a display name CANNOT be > mistaken with a user name, no matter how clever the owner of the display > name is. You make a good argument. How about a solution? Changing color is one. Might

Re: [opensource-dev] Display names, again.

2010-08-20 Thread Marine Kelley
The damage done to the reputation of a well known resident can be immeasurable. It would be irresponsible of LL to let someone impersonate someone else without giving any way to let the other people around to see CLEARLY the difference between a user name and a display name. No amount of ToS waving

Re: [opensource-dev] Display names, again.

2010-08-20 Thread Stickman
> I am talking about someone creating any random throwaway user account, then > setting their DISPLAY NAME to "Stickman Ingman", trusting that enough people > are stupid enough not to look at the real username and compare it with yours. Yep. I believe this is totally possible for people to do. The

Re: [opensource-dev] Display names, again.

2010-08-20 Thread Lance Corrimal
On Friday 20 August 2010 11:00:35 Stickman wrote: > > ditto, but i have doubts about the "solve all my problems" part > > unicode. 'nuff said. > > Well, periods can't be put into the new usernames (Kelly said so > earlier). So it's a problem for new accounts where unicode is used to > cheat th

Re: [opensource-dev] Display names, again.

2010-08-20 Thread Tateru Nino
On 20/08/2010 6:35 PM, Baloo Uriza wrote: > On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 09:22:30 +0200, Lance Corrimal wrote: > >> On Friday 20 August 2010 08:44:47 Tateru Nino wrote: >>>Forwarding your questions through the PR channels, Lance. Although, >>> from the documentation provided by the Lab so far, the ans

Re: [opensource-dev] Display names, again.

2010-08-20 Thread Tateru Nino
On 20/08/2010 6:08 PM, Opensource Obscure wrote: > On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 16:44:47 +1000, Tateru Nino > wrote: >> Forwarding your questions through the PR channels, Lance. Although, >> from the documentation provided by the Lab so far, the answer to >> question one is 'no'. > > a few email messages

Re: [opensource-dev] Display names, again.

2010-08-20 Thread Baloo Uriza
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 09:22:30 +0200, Lance Corrimal wrote: > On Friday 20 August 2010 08:44:47 Tateru Nino wrote: >> Forwarding your questions through the PR channels, Lance. Although, >> from the documentation provided by the Lab so far, the answer to >> question one is 'no'. > > > http://en.w

Re: [opensource-dev] Display names, again.

2010-08-20 Thread Stickman
> ditto, but i have doubts about the "solve all my problems" part unicode. > 'nuff said. Well, periods can't be put into the new usernames (Kelly said so earlier). So it's a problem for new accounts where unicode is used to cheat them. But new accounts can't copy old accounts without a period.

Re: [opensource-dev] Display names, again.

2010-08-20 Thread Lance Corrimal
On Friday 20 August 2010 10:37:38 Stickman wrote: > For me, I'll turn on "show username" in preferences. That'll solve all > my problems. ditto, but i have doubts about the "solve all my problems" part unicode. 'nuff said. > And when someone comes to me after having been swindled, > I'll t

Re: [opensource-dev] Display names, again.

2010-08-20 Thread Lance Corrimal
On Friday 20 August 2010 10:31:28 Opensource Obscure wrote: > I think computer systems exist that are advanced enough to > > block such a request ;-) I guess they would work like the frankly, I am not asking what you think or guess. this thread was supposed to get a clear and distinct statement

Re: [opensource-dev] Display names, again.

2010-08-20 Thread Stickman
>> my "true avatar name" is Lance Corrimal so will there be anything >> PREVENTING others from using that as theit DISPLAY NAME ??? > LanceCorrimal won't be accepted, > Lance.Corrimal won't be accepted, > Opensource.Obscure won't be accepted, etc Yeah, but he said display name, not username. The

Re: [opensource-dev] Display names, again.

2010-08-20 Thread Opensource Obscure
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 10:18:44 +0200, Lance Corrimal wrote: > On Friday 20 August 2010 10:08:13 Opensource Obscure wrote: >> On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 16:44:47 +1000, Tateru Nino >> >> wrote: >> > Forwarding your questions through the PR channels, Lance. Although, >> > from the documentation provided b

Re: [opensource-dev] Display names, again.

2010-08-20 Thread Lance Corrimal
On Friday 20 August 2010 10:08:13 Opensource Obscure wrote: > On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 16:44:47 +1000, Tateru Nino > > wrote: > > Forwarding your questions through the PR channels, Lance. Although, > > from the documentation provided by the Lab so far, the answer to > > question one is 'no'. > > a fe

Re: [opensource-dev] Display names, again.

2010-08-20 Thread Opensource Obscure
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 16:44:47 +1000, Tateru Nino wrote: > Forwarding your questions through the PR channels, Lance. Although, > from the documentation provided by the Lab so far, the answer to > question one is 'no'. a few email messages ago, Kelly replied to Ann Otoole: "No new user can crea

Re: [opensource-dev] Display names, again.

2010-08-20 Thread Lance Corrimal
On Friday 20 August 2010 08:44:47 Tateru Nino wrote: > Forwarding your questions through the PR channels, Lance. Although, > from the documentation provided by the Lab so far, the answer to > question one is 'no'. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiding_and_abetting ??? > On 20/08/2010 4:38 PM,

Re: [opensource-dev] Display names, again.

2010-08-19 Thread Tateru Nino
Forwarding your questions through the PR channels, Lance. Although, from the documentation provided by the Lab so far, the answer to question one is 'no'. On 20/08/2010 4:38 PM, Lance Corrimal wrote: > Is it just me or did the lindens stop replying to this topic? > > > ok, lets try this again.

[opensource-dev] Display names, again.

2010-08-19 Thread Lance Corrimal
Is it just me or did the lindens stop replying to this topic? ok, lets try this again. Here are some distict questions, and I would like to see distinct "yes" or "no" answers from linden labs employees, and I would like it a lot if, in case no one of the lindens on the list can answer my ques