[opensource-dev] So you don't like the new TOS and wanna move to the OS grid?

2010-04-03 Thread Dale Mahalko
I just tried using the SL 1.x client with OS grid for the first time this weekend. Overall the experience was plain awful, on a 10 megabit internet connection and GTX 285 1024meg Oddly, when giving the SL client the OSgrid URL from the command line, the client login page tells me that the Second

Re: [opensource-dev] So you don't like the new TOS and wanna move to the OS grid?

2010-04-03 Thread FoxSan Yosuké
*plays a tiny violin* Have a great weekend :) 2010/4/4 Dale Mahalko > I just tried using the SL 1.x client with OS grid for the first time > this weekend. Overall the experience was plain awful, on a 10 megabit > internet connection and GTX 285 1024meg > > > Oddly, when giving the SL client th

Re: [opensource-dev] So you don't like the new TOS and wanna move to the OS grid?

2010-04-03 Thread Maya Remblai
You tried one grid out of...20? Maybe more? Not really a fair benchmark. :P They're all different, and some are better than others. My personal new home is InWorldz. Reaction Grid performs well as well. OSGrid has the benefit of self-hosting, but that's a problem as well, as you saw. Many grids

Re: [opensource-dev] So you don't like the new TOS and wanna move to the OS grid?

2010-04-03 Thread Andromeda Quonset
Indeed. You should see how far behind the scripting language is. Here is a question I've always wondered: is LSL and/or Linden Scripting Language a trademark? It isn't listed in the trademark page. Andro At 12:49 AM 4/4/2010, you wrote: >I just tried using the SL 1.x client with OS grid for

Re: [opensource-dev] So you don't like the new TOS and wanna move to the OS grid?

2010-04-04 Thread Glen Canaday
Mmm. There are many grids, all running different server versions. All of the web-related stuff like the concurrency, etc., is all client-side and has nothing at all to do with OpenSim. It's web data and your client wasn't configured to look at any other web page with that data. In short, it loo

Re: [opensource-dev] So you don't like the new TOS and wanna move to the OS grid?

2010-04-04 Thread Gareth Nelson
The thing with OSGrid is that it was meant from the start to be a public grid where anyone can link up - and so regions there could be hosted on a 486 with 64mb of RAM (and loads of swap space on disk..) connected through a VPN over dialup to a satellite connection in a stormy climate for all y

Re: [opensource-dev] So you don't like the new TOS and wanna move to the OS grid?

2010-04-04 Thread Joel Foner
This could be a not so bright question, but shouldn't all those patches to fix up OpenSim bugs be ending up back in the trunk and end up with the default downloads working better? Joel On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Gareth Nelson wrote: > The thing with OSGrid is that it was meant from the star

Re: [opensource-dev] So you don't like the new TOS and wanna move to the OS grid?

2010-04-04 Thread Gareth Nelson
Probably, but there may again be the whole paranoia over "tainting", and some of the instability may be normal developmental issues - stuff that crops up in ongoing development of new features. Note that in my experience, even a description (without an actual patch or any actual code) of how to fix

Re: [opensource-dev] So you don't like the new TOS and wanna move to the OS grid?

2010-04-04 Thread Robert Martin
The "problem" with patches not making it to the core opensim server is that recently they went ripping through the server to enforce a better order to things so you could write a patch that did solve a problem but was useless to the CURRENT code. I think most of the core functions has become stable

Re: [opensource-dev] So you don't like the new TOS and wanna move to the OS grid?

2010-04-04 Thread Rob Nelson
Ha. Speaking of colorful, I remember my very first patch ever was a SQL injection fix for OpenSim's grid services (back when OSG when run from PHP scripts) that contained a bunch of cursewords I accidentally left in the comments. On Sun, 2010-04-04 at 22:46 +0100, Gareth Nelson wrote: > Probabl

Re: [opensource-dev] So you don't like the new TOS and wanna move to the OS grid?

2010-04-04 Thread Gareth Nelson
I think I may have been the one to author those PHP scripts - it was a bet made on IRC late at night that I could have a grid up and running (opensim was at the time single regions only) "by breakfast tomorrow" - I did, but it was one messy pile of hacks On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Rob Nelson

Re: [opensource-dev] So you don't like the new TOS and wanna move to the OS grid?

2010-04-04 Thread Dzonatas Sol
Client-side physics is a must have in the new features. The first implementation probably would be for avatar clothes, even if the physics stay pretty static or just not-so-fluid. Anything is better then some attachment that tends to eviscerate the avatar. Don't mention client-side physics or a