Re: [openssl-users] The evolution of the 'master' branch

2015-02-10 Thread Tom Francis
I think Jakob’s real concern (as expressed to me off-list a month or so ago) is that OpenSSL’s libcrypto will become entirely hidden. I found several of his comments confusing until he mentioned that. So, I think the fair question to be asking is: Is there any plan to make libcrypto go

Re: [openssl-users] The evolution of the 'master' branch

2015-02-10 Thread Salz, Rich
Is there any plan to make libcrypto go completely opaque, such that _only_ the APIs exposed in libssl will be available? Absolutely not. Thanks for asking! ___ openssl-users mailing list To unsubscribe:

Re: [openssl-users] The evolution of the 'master' branch

2015-02-10 Thread Matt Caswell
On 10/02/15 21:16, Tom Francis wrote: I think Jakob’s real concern (as expressed to me off-list a month or so ago) is that OpenSSL’s libcrypto will become entirely hidden. I found several of his comments confusing until he mentioned that. So, I think the fair question to be asking is:

Re: [openssl-users] The evolution of the 'master' branch

2015-02-09 Thread Jakob Bohm
On 07/02/2015 12:12, Michael Felt wrote: From someone who does NOT understand the in's and out's of what people (developers and users) have been using openSSL for. My first reaction is: have developers been using openSSL, or has it gone to abusing it? For the sake of argument - let's say just

Re: [openssl-users] The evolution of the 'master' branch

2015-02-07 Thread Michael Felt
From someone who does NOT understand the in's and out's of what people (developers and users) have been using openSSL for. My first reaction is: have developers been using openSSL, or has it gone to abusing it? For the sake of argument - let's say just use as it has always been intended. Many

Re: [openssl-users] The evolution of the 'master' branch

2015-02-06 Thread Jakob Bohm
On 05/02/2015 00:42, Salz, Rich wrote: Not much on that page so far, not even a kill list of intended victims except an admission that EAY's popular DES library can no longer be accessed via the copy in OpenSSL. Yup. Pretty empty. Over the coming year there will be more. I fear that this is

Re: [openssl-users] The evolution of the 'master' branch

2015-02-06 Thread Salz, Rich
Thanks for your detailed reply. Not sure what else I can say except that we disagree. ___ openssl-users mailing list To unsubscribe: https://mta.openssl.org/mailman/listinfo/openssl-users

Re: [openssl-users] The evolution of the 'master' branch

2015-02-06 Thread Matt Caswell
On 06/02/15 16:03, Jakob Bohm wrote: I believe you have made the mistake of discussing only amongst yourselves, thus gradually convincing each other of the righteousness of a flawed decision. ...and, Rich said in a previous email (in response to your comment): I fear that this is an

Re: [openssl-users] The evolution of the 'master' branch

2015-02-04 Thread Jakob Bohm
On 03/02/2015 23:02, Rich Salz wrote: As we've already said, we are moving to making most OpenSSL data structures opaque. We deliberately used a non-specific term. :) As of Matt's commit of the other day, this is starting to happen now. We know this will inconvenience people as some

Re: [openssl-users] The evolution of the 'master' branch

2015-02-04 Thread Salz, Rich
Not much on that page so far, not even a kill list of intended victims except an admission that EAY's popular DES library can no longer be accessed via the copy in OpenSSL. Yup. Pretty empty. Over the coming year there will be more. I fear that this is an indication that you will be killing

[openssl-users] The evolution of the 'master' branch

2015-02-03 Thread Rich Salz
As we've already said, we are moving to making most OpenSSL data structures opaque. We deliberately used a non-specific term. :) As of Matt's commit of the other day, this is starting to happen now. We know this will inconvenience people as some applications no longer build. We want to work with