Good Algorithm

1999-11-22 Thread Sean Walker
What is a good suggestion for an algorithm in SSL that I can use that doesn't have the patent problems here in the US? I am writing the software for both client and server, so I can be quite flexible here. Actually, I just got everything done today and had a successful connection just a few minute

Re: Good Algorithm

1999-11-23 Thread Bodo Moeller
On Mon, Nov 22, 1999 at 08:55:09AM -0800, Sean Walker wrote: > What is a good suggestion for an algorithm in SSL that I can use that > doesn't have the patent problems here in the US? Configure the library with "no-rsa no-idea no-rc5". What is left should not have patent problems in the USA. N

Re: Good Algorithm

1999-11-24 Thread Bodo Moeller
On Tue, Nov 23, 1999 at 04:50:33PM -0500, James B. Huber wrote: > I show the RSA patent 4,405,829 (expires Sept. 29th 2000) and > the "idea" patent 5,214,703 (good for another 10 years) but don't > find a patent on rc5 Try 5,835,600 or 5,724,428 (I haven't looked closely which one is actu

Re: Good Algorithm

1999-11-24 Thread Bodo Moeller
On Wed, Nov 24, 1999 at 10:16:16AM +0100, Nicolas Roumiantzeff wrote: >> Configure the library with "no-rsa no-idea no-rc5". What is left >> should not have patent problems in the USA. > Can anyone confirm that RC4 is not a problem anymore? It was a trade secret, but obviously is no longer se

Re: Good Algorithm

1999-11-24 Thread James B. Huber
Bodo Moeller writes: > On Tue, Nov 23, 1999 at 04:50:33PM -0500, James B. Huber wrote: > > > I show the RSA patent 4,405,829 (expires Sept. 29th 2000) and > > the "idea" patent 5,214,703 (good for another 10 years) but don't > > find a patent on rc5 > > Try 5,835,600 or 5,724,428 (I haven

Re: Good Algorithm

1999-11-25 Thread Michael Robinton
On Wed, 24 Nov 1999, James B. Huber wrote: > They are refusing to even speak to anyone regarding itCool. > That means to me.it's mine to use as long as I make a formal > in writing statement to the registered offices of their company > they must either produce the original license and ter

Re: Good Algorithm

1999-11-25 Thread Rich Salz
> I'm not a lawyer either, however as a Manager of Software development > I have always been told by the legal boys, you MUST enforce a > copyright and/or patent in ALL cases or you can't enforce it in any. > US law requires equal treatment to all. Totally wrong. ___

Re: Good Algorithm

1999-11-25 Thread Nicolas Roumiantzeff
ED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date : mercredi 24 novembre 1999 23:54 Objet : Re: Good Algorithm >On Wed, Nov 24, 1999 at 10:16:16AM +0100, Nicolas Roumiantzeff wrote: > >>> Configure the library with "no-rsa no-idea no-rc5". What is left >>> should not have paten

Re: Good Algorithm

1999-11-25 Thread Charles Forsythe
> > Can anyone confirm that RC4 is not a problem anymore? > > It was a trade secret, but obviously is no longer secret; to my > knowledge, RSA has never asserted to have patents on RC4. You can call your implementation ARC4 -- Alleged RC4. If you claim that your implementation is RC4 with any ce

Re: Good Algorithm

1999-11-25 Thread James B. Huber
Rich Salz writes: > > I'm not a lawyer either, however as a Manager of Software development > > I have always been told by the legal boys, you MUST enforce a > > copyright and/or patent in ALL cases or you can't enforce it in any. > > US law requires equal treatment to all. > > Totally wrong.

Re: Good Algorithm

1999-11-28 Thread Vin McLellan
Groggy from lots of wine, rich food, wild women, and little sleep, Vin McLellan wrote: >Rivest invented RC2 in 1987. It was controlled and licensed as a >trade secret by RSADSI for many years, but in 1992, Ron published an >Internet RFC describing it, effectively putting it in th

Re: Good Algorithm

1999-11-28 Thread Vin McLellan
James Huber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asked: >> I show the RSA patent 4,405,829 (expires Sept. 29th 2000) and >>the "idea" patent 5,214,703 (good for another 10 years) but don't >>find a patent on rc5 >> >>Who owns rc5 and how is it restricted? Bodo Moeller suggested: > Try 5,835

Re: Good Algorithm

1999-11-28 Thread Vin McLellan
Nicolas Roumiantzeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> queried the List: /> Can anyone confirm that RC4 is not a problem anymore? Bodo Moeller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> replied: >It was a trade secret, but obviously is no longer secret; to my >knowledge, RSA has never asserted to have patents on RC

Re: Good Algorithm

1999-11-28 Thread EKR
Vin McLellan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > When SSL/TLS was brought to the IETF, there was some sort of special > arrangement -- a concession to the huge SSL installed base (among consumers > and commercial developers) which was accustomed to using RSA-based SSL with > RC4 -- which acknowl

Re: Good Algorithm

1999-11-28 Thread Rich Salz
> As I recall, however, the TLSv.1 Internet-Draft mischeviously cited > -- as its cannonical RC4 reference -- one of the several Apparently RC4 > (ARC-4) clones. I believe they did this with the advice/suggestion/concerrence of Rivest. ___

Re: Good Algorithm

1999-11-28 Thread Greg Broiles
At 12:37 AM 11/26/99 , Vin McLellan wrote: >Bodo Moeller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> replied: > > >It was a trade secret, but obviously is no longer secret; to my > >knowledge, RSA has never asserted to have patents on RC4. > > This is correct. OTOH, RSAS has never given up their copyrigh

Re: Good Algorithm

1999-11-29 Thread EKR
Vin McLellan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ekr> I don't believe this was the case. The original SSLv3 drafts > Ekr> did not have DH/DSS/RC4 support. TLSv1 continued this. > Ekr> The evidence that this was simply a glitch is that > Ekr> DH_anon _was_ defined with RC4. > > I had in mind the

Re: Good Algorithm

1999-12-01 Thread Vin McLellan
I wrote: >> As I recall, however, the TLSv.1 Internet-Draft mischeviously cited >> -- as its cannonical RC4 reference -- one of the several Apparently RC4 >> (ARC-4) clones. Rich Salz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> noted: >I believe they did this with the advice/suggestion/concer