Re: Phantom Domain Name Mismatch?

2006-04-21 Thread Vijay K. Gurbani
Victor Duchovni wrote: The usual interpretation seems to be not an alternative in the sense of "one more of the same", but rather "one more and possibly better *representation* of the same". The subject name in the certificate is an X.500 DN. What Internet applications that want to authenticate

Re: Phantom Domain Name Mismatch?

2006-04-21 Thread Vijay K. Gurbani
Victor Duchovni wrote: is rather muddy... Used by whom? For what? In addition? Instead? So perhaps the HTTPS RFC elaborates the intent of a rather poorly worded base RFC. Agreed. Yes, rfc2818 elaborates the intent in rfc2459 (which got obsoleted by rfc3280). However, in the IETF SIP WG, we ar

Re: Phantom Domain Name Mismatch?

2006-04-21 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 02:11:39PM -0500, Vijay K. Gurbani wrote: > Victor Duchovni wrote: > >The usual interpretation seems to be not an alternative in the sense > >of "one more of the same", but rather "one more and possibly better > >*representation* of the same". > > > >The subject name in the

Re: Phantom Domain Name Mismatch?

2006-04-21 Thread Vijay K. Gurbani
Victor Duchovni wrote: The RFC recommends that one leave out the subject DN, and add a critical extension with altNames. This does not really explain how matching should work when the subject DN is present. HTTPS is not necessarily normative for STARTTLS with SMTP, but in the absence of other gui

Re: Phantom Domain Name Mismatch?

2006-04-21 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 11:55:46AM -0700, Heikki Toivonen wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 12:24:10PM -0400, Victor Duchovni wrote: > >> in X.500 DNs as candidate DNS names is a transitional hack. When DNS > >> names are present in the SubjectAlternativeName extension, these (with RFC > >> bless

Re: Phantom Domain Name Mismatch?

2006-04-21 Thread Vijay K. Gurbani
Victor Duchovni wrote: The usual interpretation seems to be not an alternative in the sense of "one more of the same", but rather "one more and possibly better *representation* of the same". The subject name in the certificate is an X.500 DN. What Internet applications that want to authenticate

Re: Phantom Domain Name Mismatch?

2006-04-21 Thread Heikki Toivonen
Victor Duchovni wrote: > On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 12:24:10PM -0400, Victor Duchovni wrote: >> in X.500 DNs as candidate DNS names is a transitional hack. When DNS >> names are present in the SubjectAlternativeName extension, these (with RFC >> blessing) are taken to represent *ALL* the valid DNS nam

Re: Phantom Domain Name Mismatch?

2006-04-21 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 02:28:12PM -0400, Richard Salz wrote: > > Here we go: RFC 2818 section 3.1: > > You rock. Thanks. Much of the credit goes to Lutz, since his peer verification code for Postfix is how I learned this particular wizardly lore. -- Viktor. ___

Re: Phantom Domain Name Mismatch?

2006-04-21 Thread Richard Salz
> Here we go: RFC 2818 section 3.1: You rock. /r$ -- SOA Appliances Application Integration Middleware __ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org User Support Mailing List

Re: Phantom Domain Name Mismatch?

2006-04-21 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 12:24:10PM -0400, Victor Duchovni wrote: > The subject name in the certificate is an X.500 DN. What Internet > applications that want to authenticate a connection to a given host are > trying to verify is a DNS name. The convention for overloading CommonName > in X.500 DNs

Re: Phantom Domain Name Mismatch?

2006-04-21 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 11:42:34AM -0400, Richard Salz wrote: > > Wow a 512 bit key! Really unwise. > > Ture. > > > You did not mention the > > > > X509v3 Subject Alternative Name: > > DNS:helpdesk.cis.uab.edu > > > > When this is present the CN is ignored. > > > Really? T

Re: Phantom Domain Name Mismatch?

2006-04-21 Thread Fran Fabrizio
Richard Salz wrote: Wow a 512 bit key! Really unwise. Ture. It's already been replaced with a 2048 bit key. :-) I was just grasping at straws last night trying to figure out what was wrong. You did not mention the X509v3 Subject Alternative Name: DNS:helpdesk

Re: Phantom Domain Name Mismatch?

2006-04-21 Thread Richard Salz
> Wow a 512 bit key! Really unwise. Ture. > You did not mention the > > X509v3 Subject Alternative Name: > DNS:helpdesk.cis.uab.edu > > When this is present the CN is ignored. Really? That seems like a bug. There's a reason why it's called subjectAlternativeName, and not

Re: Phantom Domain Name Mismatch?

2006-04-21 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 09:16:51AM -0500, Fran Fabrizio wrote: > >The other lesson here, is don't be skimpy in your error reports. If your > >server were not reachable from the public Internet, nobody would have > >been able to help you. The key evidence (the details of the certificate) > >was nev

Re: Phantom Domain Name Mismatch?

2006-04-21 Thread Fran Fabrizio
The other lesson here, is don't be skimpy in your error reports. If your server were not reachable from the public Internet, nobody would have been able to help you. The key evidence (the details of the certificate) was never reported. Part of being a newbie (as I am when it comes to signing

Re: Phantom Domain Name Mismatch?

2006-04-21 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 09:00:17AM -0500, Fran Fabrizio wrote: > > Yes, I need to make a stronger permanent key. I've been playing with > all the various settings trying to figure out what's wrong: this is > about the 7th certificate I've made for this server. :-) > > The helpdesk.cis.uab.edu

Re: Phantom Domain Name Mismatch?

2006-04-21 Thread Fran Fabrizio
Yes, I need to make a stronger permanent key. I've been playing with all the various settings trying to figure out what's wrong: this is about the 7th certificate I've made for this server. :-) The helpdesk.cis.uab.edu is an alias for the CA server, not for this email server. But you seem

Re: Phantom Domain Name Mismatch?

2006-04-21 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 07:00:32AM -0500, Fran Fabrizio wrote: > Here's the conf file I used when I generated the request: > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] CisCA]# more EmailServer.cnf > >[ req ] > >prompt = no > >distinguished_name = crier.cis.uab.edu > > > >[ crier.cis.uab.edu ] >

Re: Phantom Domain Name Mismatch?

2006-04-21 Thread Fran Fabrizio
PS - I know the conf file says crier.cis.uab.edu and below I wrote imap. The imap was just for example purposes; the one and only machine name is crier.cis.uab.edu. (Sometimes simplifying for example purposes ends up complicating... :-) Brad Hards wrote: On Friday 21 April 2006 06:23 am,

Re: Phantom Domain Name Mismatch?

2006-04-21 Thread Fran Fabrizio
Here's the conf file I used when I generated the request: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CisCA]# more EmailServer.cnf [ req ] prompt = no distinguished_name = crier.cis.uab.edu [ crier.cis.uab.edu ] commonName = crier.cis.uab.edu stateOrProvinceName = Alabama countryN

Re: Phantom Domain Name Mismatch?

2006-04-21 Thread Brad Hards
On Friday 21 April 2006 06:23 am, Fran Fabrizio wrote: > "You have attempted to establish a connection to imap.cis.uab.edu.   > However, the security certificate presented belongs to imap.cis.uab.edu." Is that exactly how it is written? If so, you might have signed the certificate with a FQDN (end

Phantom Domain Name Mismatch?

2006-04-20 Thread Fran Fabrizio
What would be some possible causes of the following error message that I am getting on our IMAP clients (Thunderbird 1.5 and Outlook 2003) when they retrieve the SSL certificate from the IMAP server: "You have attempted to establish a connection to imap.cis.uab.edu. However, the security ce