Re: [Openstack] API Spec

2011-08-24 Thread Mellquist, Peter
I understand the benefits of being able to generate docs and specs from code since it ensures that these are in synch and that the specs follow what the code supports but ... in regard to API design this approach leaves something to be desired. There is much value in designing the APIs up front

Re: [Openstack] Issues with Packaging and a Proposal

2011-08-24 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/24/2011 03:09 PM, Michael Barton wrote: > On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Soren Hansen wrote: >> Rackspace isn't doing their own packaging because of (lack of) Debian >> support. If they did, they'd have realised almost immediately that the >> packages actually build on Debian. They're do

Re: [Openstack] Issues with Packaging and a Proposal

2011-08-24 Thread Michael Barton
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Soren Hansen wrote: > Rackspace isn't doing their own packaging because of (lack of) Debian > support. If they did, they'd have realised almost immediately that the > packages actually build on Debian. They're doing it because there'll > supposedly be differences i

Re: [Openstack] Issues with Packaging and a Proposal

2011-08-24 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/24/2011 01:11 PM, Soren Hansen wrote: > 2011/8/24 Monty Taylor : >> - Lack of Debian support. One of the largest current deployments of >> OpenStack is Rackspace, and they deploy on Debian. (disclaimer, they >> also pay my salary) This means they are internally maintaining their own >> set

Re: [Openstack] Issues with Packaging and a Proposal

2011-08-24 Thread Soren Hansen
2011/8/24 Monty Taylor : > - Lack of Debian support. One of the largest current deployments of > OpenStack is Rackspace, and they deploy on Debian. (disclaimer, they > also pay my salary) This means they are internally maintaining their own > set of packages, and not interacting with ours at all. T

Re: [Openstack] Issues with Packaging and a Proposal

2011-08-24 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/24/2011 10:22 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > Hi Monty, > > I've been quite pleased to read your mail. Thanks for that. > > On 08/24/2011 11:56 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: >> This deals with: >> - Lack of Debian support. >> - PPAs are Async. >> - Not integrated with CI. >> - Lack of RPM suppo

Re: [Openstack] Issues with Packaging and a Proposal

2011-08-24 Thread Michael Shuler
On 08/24/2011 10:56 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: > - Lack of Debian support. > > - Direct injection to Ubuntu not via Debian. The publically stated > best-practice for things entering Ubuntu is to be added to/uploaded to > Debian and then synced, unless there is some compelling reason not to do > this.

Re: [Openstack] Issues with Packaging and a Proposal

2011-08-24 Thread Thomas Goirand
Hi Monty, I've been quite pleased to read your mail. Thanks for that. On 08/24/2011 11:56 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: > This deals with: > - Lack of Debian support. > - PPAs are Async. > - Not integrated with CI. > - Lack of RPM support. > - PPA Fragmentation. If I may add as well my personal v

Re: [Openstack] API Spec

2011-08-24 Thread Soren Hansen
2011/8/24 Jorge Williams : >> Let me start by saying that I have no idea why we're having this >> discussion again. We talked about it at the design summit and we >> agreed we'd move forward in pretty much exactly the way Vish describes >> it. > I believe I attended all discussions on the compute A

Re: [Openstack] Issues with Packaging and a Proposal

2011-08-24 Thread Nati Ueno
Monty++! Just FYI GridDynamics are working well for Packaging RPMs. http://wiki.openstack.org/NovaInstall/RHEL6Notes-Diablo-3 Its also works on Scientific Linux6.1 (Personally, I prefer free OS :D ) Here is there repos. http://yum.griddynamics.net/yum/diablo-3/openstack/ They maintains it on t

[Openstack] [Glance] D4 Update and Request for Bug Zappers

2011-08-24 Thread Jay Pipes
Hi all! First, I'd like to give a BIG shout-out to the contributors who helped fix bugs and write features for the jam-packed D4 milestone release of Glance: Brian Waldon Johannes Erdfelt Justin Shepherd Kevin L. Mitchell Monty Taylor Rick Harris Soren Hansen You can check out the list of featur

[Openstack] Issues with Packaging and a Proposal

2011-08-24 Thread Monty Taylor
Hi all! First of all, I spoke about something yesterday in terms of being a done-deal, when it should have been prefaced with "I'm looking at". My bad, and I certainly apologize for freaking anyone out. That being said - there are several issues with the current packaging setup that I've been tas

Re: [Openstack] API Spec

2011-08-24 Thread Jorge Williams
Inline: On Aug 23, 2011, at 4:40 PM, Soren Hansen wrote: > Let me start by saying that I have no idea why we're having this > discussion again. We talked about it at the design summit and we > agreed we'd move forward in pretty much exactly the way Vish describes > it. > I believe I attended al

[Openstack] wiki account creation

2011-08-24 Thread Anne Gentle
All, I have had to switch the wiki.openstack.org wiki to disallow new account creation through the wiki/web interface. I have changed directions on the wiki to guide people to email me to ask for a new account, but I wanted to be sure everyone knows about the change. If you need an account, email m

Re: [Openstack] API Spec

2011-08-24 Thread Juan J.
On Mon, 2011-08-22 at 21:12 -0500, Anne Gentle wrote: > I think it makes sense to have an openstack-api project with all the > API docs (specs and learning materials) gathered in one place. I think > it's preferable to have the API separated out from the code for > several reasons - ease of review,