Re: [Openstack] Providing packages for stable releases of OpenStack

2011-12-07 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2011-12-06 at 14:12 -0800, Duncan McGreggor wrote: On 06 Dec 2011 - 13:52, Duncan McGreggor wrote: On 06 Dec 2011 - 21:14, Thierry Carrez wrote: Tim Bell wrote: I'm not clear on who will be maintaining the stable/diablo branch. The people such as EPEL for RedHat systems need

Re: [Openstack] Providing packages for stable releases of OpenStack

2011-12-07 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2011-12-06 at 10:11 -0800, Duncan McGreggor wrote: On 06 Dec 2011 - 14:28, Thierry Carrez wrote: So the general consensus so far on this discussion seems to be: (0) The 2011.3 release PPA bears false expectations and should be removed now. In the future, we should not provide such

Re: [Openstack] Nova Subteam Changes

2011-12-07 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2011-12-06 at 19:54 -0800, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: Hello Everyone, The Nova subteams have now been active for a month and a half. Some things are going very well, and others could use a little improvement. To keep things moving forward, I'd like to make the following changes:

Re: [Openstack] Nova Subteam Changes

2011-12-07 Thread Thierry Carrez
Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: 2) *Closing down the team mailinglists.* Some of the lists have been a bit active, but I think the approach that soren has been using of sending messages to the regular list with a team [header] is a better approach. Examples: [db] Should we use zookeeper?

[Openstack] Openstack with XenServer

2011-12-07 Thread jeffrey coho
Hi,all, I am trying to install OpenStack with XenServer.I followed what this page says,but with no luck. (http://wiki.openstack.org/XenServerDevelopment) Is there any one who successfully installed this? Is there any guides available beyond the page above? What's more, I tried this way:

Re: [Openstack] Providing packages for stable releases of OpenStack

2011-12-07 Thread John Garbutt
On 06 Dec 2011 - 13:52, Duncan McGreggor wrote: Yikes! I forgot an incredibly important one: * What is the migration path story (diablo to essex, essex to f, etc.)? I think it was going to be the Upgrades Team? ___ Mailing list:

[Openstack] [Orchestration] Handling error events ... explicit vs. implicit

2011-12-07 Thread Sandy Walsh
For orchestration (and now the scheduler improvements) we need to know when an operation fails ... and specifically, which resource was involved. In the majority of the cases it's an instance_uuid we're looking for, but it could be a security group id or a reservation id. With most of the

Re: [Openstack] [Orchestration] Handling error events ... explicit vs. implicit

2011-12-07 Thread Mark Washenberger
Can you talk a little more about how you want to apply this failure notification? That is, what is the case where you are going to use the information that an operation failed? In my head I have an idea of getting code simplicity dividends from an everything succeeds approach to some of our

Re: [Openstack] [Orchestration] Handling error events ... explicit vs. implicit

2011-12-07 Thread Sandy Walsh
Sure, the problem I'm immediately facing is reclaiming resources from the Capacity table when something fails. (we claim them immediately in the scheduler when the host is selected to lessen the latency). The other situation is Orchestration needs it for retries, rescheduling, rollbacks and

[Openstack] [QA] Team meeting at 12 EST today

2011-12-07 Thread Jay Pipes
Hey all, A quick reminder that the QA team has our weekly meeting on #openstack-meeting in about 30 minutes. 12:00 EST 09:00 PST 17:00 UTC See you there, -jay ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to :

Re: [Openstack] [Orchestration] Handling error events ... explicit vs. implicit

2011-12-07 Thread Mark Washenberger
Gotcha. So the way this might work is, for example, when a run_instance fails on compute node, it would publish a run_instance for uuid=blah failed event. There would be a subscriber associated with the scheduler listening for such events--when it receives one it would go check the capacity

Re: [Openstack] [Orchestration] Handling error events ... explicit vs. implicit

2011-12-07 Thread Sandy Walsh
Exactly! ... or it could be handled in the notifier itself. From: openstack-bounces+sandy.walsh=rackspace@lists.launchpad.net [openstack-bounces+sandy.walsh=rackspace@lists.launchpad.net] on behalf of Mark Washenberger

Re: [Openstack] [Orchestration] Handling error events ... explicit vs. implicit

2011-12-07 Thread Yun Mao
Hi Sandy, I'm wondering if it is possible to change the scheduler's rpc cast to rpc call. This way the exceptions should be magically propagated back to the scheduler, right? Naturally the scheduler can find another node to retry or decide to give up and report failure. If we need to provision

Re: [Openstack] [Orchestration] Handling error events ... explicit vs. implicit

2011-12-07 Thread Sandy Walsh
True ... this idea has come up before (and is still being kicked around). My biggest concern is what happens if that scheduler dies? We need a mechanism that can live outside of a single scheduler service. The more of these long-running processes we leave in a service the greater the impact

Re: [Openstack] [Orchestration] Handling error events ... explicit vs. implicit

2011-12-07 Thread Sandy Walsh
*removing our Asynchronous nature. (heh, such a key point to typo on) From: openstack-bounces+sandy.walsh=rackspace@lists.launchpad.net [openstack-bounces+sandy.walsh=rackspace@lists.launchpad.net] on behalf of Sandy Walsh

Re: [Openstack] Openstack with XenServer

2011-12-07 Thread Ewan Mellor
Hi Jeff, Can you be more specific about what doesn't work? There are lots of people using OpenStack with XenServer, including Citrix and Rackspace, so I can guarantee that it works! The docs are lacking though, that's for certain. Where did you get stuck? Thanks, Ewan. From:

Re: [Openstack] Providing packages for stable releases of OpenStack

2011-12-07 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Tue, 2011-12-06 at 23:56 +0100, Loic Dachary wrote: I think there is an opportunity to leverage the momentum that is growing in each distribution by creating an openstack team for them to meet. Maybe Stefano Maffulli has an idea about how to go in this direction. The IRC channel was a great

Re: [Openstack] [Orchestration] Handling error events ... explicit vs. implicit

2011-12-07 Thread Michael Pittaro
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 7:26 AM, Sandy Walsh sandy.wa...@rackspace.com wrote: For orchestration (and now the scheduler improvements) we need to know when an operation fails ... and specifically, which resource was involved. In the majority of the cases it's an instance_uuid we're looking for,

Re: [Openstack] Providing packages for stable releases of OpenStack

2011-12-07 Thread Duncan McGreggor
On 07 Dec 2011 - 08:22, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Tue, 2011-12-06 at 10:11 -0800, Duncan McGreggor wrote: On 06 Dec 2011 - 14:28, Thierry Carrez wrote: So the general consensus so far on this discussion seems to be: (0) The 2011.3 release PPA bears false expectations and should be

Re: [Openstack] Providing packages for stable releases of OpenStack

2011-12-07 Thread Loic Dachary
On 12/07/2011 10:32 PM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: On Tue, 2011-12-06 at 23:56 +0100, Loic Dachary wrote: I think there is an opportunity to leverage the momentum that is growing in each distribution by creating an openstack team for them to meet. Maybe Stefano Maffulli has an idea about how to

[Openstack] Delete server spec

2011-12-07 Thread Nachi Ueno
Hi folks I wanna make Delete server spec clear. The API doc says, When a server is deleted, all images created from that server are also removed http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-compute/1.1/content/Delete_Server-d1e2883.html IMO, all images is vm images which stored on compute node

Re: [Openstack] Delete server spec

2011-12-07 Thread Jesse Andrews
I would interpret that to include the snapshots - but I'm not sure that is what I'd expect as a user. On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Nachi Ueno ueno.na...@nttdata-agilenet.com wrote: Hi folks I wanna make Delete server spec clear. The API doc says, When a server is deleted, all images

Re: [Openstack] Delete server spec

2011-12-07 Thread Nachi Ueno
Hi Jessy Thanks. Hmm, there are no implementation of cleanup snapshot images. IMO, Snapshot image should not deleted, in case of API request mistake. https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/manager.py#L540 2011/12/7 Jesse Andrews anotherje...@gmail.com: I would interpret

Re: [Openstack] Delete server spec

2011-12-07 Thread Jay Pipes
I would agree with that. If I delete a server instance, I don't want to destroy snapshot images I took of that server... -jay On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Nachi Ueno ueno.na...@nttdata-agilenet.com wrote: Hi Jessy Thanks. Hmm, there are no implementation of cleanup snapshot images. IMO,

Re: [Openstack] Nova Subteam Changes

2011-12-07 Thread Trey Morris
excellent ideas. I especially like the standardized list of headers. just to be sure, mondays at 2100utc? if so, no conflicts on my end On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:51 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.orgwrote: Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: 2) *Closing down the team mailinglists.* Some of the