[Openstack] Expectations for tracebacks

2011-12-15 Thread Narayan Desai
Hello all. We've recently upgraded our cactus system to more recent code. In the process of doing this, we've started logging whenever we get tracebacks out of any of the openstack components we are running. Some of these are clearly bugs, while others correspond to normal operational conditions

Re: [Openstack] Expectations for tracebacks

2011-12-15 Thread Lorin Hochstein
I don't know if there's an official project policy, but personally I don't think an end-user should ever see a Python traceback in a logfile under normal operations (i.e., the user has configured all of the services correctly). Lorin -- Lorin Hochstein, Computer Scientist USC Information

Re: [Openstack] Expectations for tracebacks

2011-12-15 Thread Julien Danjou
On Thu, Dec 15 2011, Narayan Desai wrote: Hello all. We've recently upgraded our cactus system to more recent code. In the process of doing this, we've started logging whenever we get tracebacks out of any of the openstack components we are running. Some of these are clearly bugs, while

Re: [Openstack] Expectations for tracebacks

2011-12-15 Thread Jesse Andrews
Definitely we should be filing bugs. Jesse On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Julien Danjou julien.dan...@enovance.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 15 2011, Narayan Desai wrote: Hello all. We've recently upgraded our cactus system to more recent code. In the process of doing this, we've started logging

Re: [Openstack] Expectations for tracebacks

2011-12-15 Thread Pitucha, Stanislaw Izaak
I think all are bugs. Even if you understand some of them and considers them to be logical, you should not see ugly backtraces. You should see nice log lines any system administrator can read and understand clearly. I agree. There are some other practical reasons for it too: - Exceptions