Re: [Openstack] Remove Zones code - FFE

2012-02-13 Thread Leandro Reox
+1 on shards On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 1:45 AM, Sandy Walsh sandy.wa...@rackspace.comwrote: +1 on shards / partitions / anything to avoid the naming confusion with availability zones. (congrats on the branch! Looking forward to trying it!) From:

Re: [Openstack] python-swiftclient?

2012-02-13 Thread Julien Danjou
On Mon, Feb 13 2012, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: What do you think if we : - split swift.common.client to its own. - have bin/swift import that package and shipped with it. - have a comprehensive test suite covering the CLI and the library. - have some proper PIP release for all the projects to

Re: [Openstack] [Openstack-qa-team] API extensions and error codes

2012-02-13 Thread Anne Gentle
Hi David - The only existing API documentation for extensions was merged in with this merge request: https://review.openstack.org/#change,2045 Unfortunately, it appears it has been left behind in subsequent merges, as it doesn't appear in the Sphinx-built homepage at http://nova.openstack.org/.

Re: [Openstack] instance event subscription?

2012-02-13 Thread Juan Antonio García Lebrijo
Hello Andrew, as we could find in the notification system wiki http://wiki.openstack.org/NotificationSystem, we had to add the flag (--notification_driver=nova.notifier.rabbit_notifier) in all modules configuration ( /etc/nova/nova-network.conf, nova-compute.conf, nova-volume.conf). And

Re: [Openstack] python-swiftclient?

2012-02-13 Thread John Dickinson
On Feb 13, 2012, at 8:29 AM, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: What do you think if we : - split swift.common.client to its own. - have bin/swift import that package and shipped with it. - have a comprehensive test suite covering the CLI and the library. - have some proper PIP release for all

Re: [Openstack] Propose to make Monsyne Dragon a nova core developer

2012-02-13 Thread Monsyne Dragon
Lazy consensus seems to say yes (6 +1's and no negatives, and it's been 5 days). Would someone mind adding me to the nova-core group? On Feb 6, 2012, at 4:48 PM, Matt Dietz wrote: Hey guys, Dragon has really stepped up lately on reviewing patches into Nova, and has a ton of knowledge around

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack Java API

2012-02-13 Thread Luis Gervaso
The Dasein Arch is great and the code is very clean. Congrats for it. I can't find a fully implementation of OS API. are using EC2 API to talk with OS? Cheers! On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 8:15 PM, George Reese george.re...@enstratus.comwrote: There's also Dasein Cloud if you are interested at

Re: [Openstack] instance event subscription?

2012-02-13 Thread Andrew Bogott
On 2/13/12 9:47 AM, Juan Antonio García Lebrijo wrote: Hello Andrew, as we could find in the notification system wiki http://wiki.openstack.org/NotificationSystem, we had to add the flag (--notification_driver=nova.notifier.rabbit_notifier) in all modules configuration (

[Openstack] Essex Doc Day March 6th

2012-02-13 Thread Anne Gentle
Hi all - We're planning for an all-OpenStack Doc day for the Essex release for Tuesday March 6th. I'll be at the Rackspace San Francisco office and you're welcome to join a group of us there, or set up your own Doc Day in your neck of the woods. We'll have a meetup.org Event post to link to soon

Re: [Openstack] Doubts about virtual CPUs and Swift storage capacity.

2012-02-13 Thread Caitlin Bestler
John Dickinson wrote: Here's how to find the usable space for swift marketing size of the drive (eg 2TB) * .92 (to account for formatted size * .8 (for 80% fullness) / replicas If you have 15 TB of formatted space with 3 replicas, that gives you 5TB of usable space. If you have 15TB of

Re: [Openstack] instance event subscription?

2012-02-13 Thread Juan Antonio García Lebrijo
On 02/13/2012 06:37 PM, Andrew Bogott wrote: On 2/13/12 9:47 AM, Juan Antonio García Lebrijo wrote: Hello Andrew, as we could find in the notification system wiki http://wiki.openstack.org/NotificationSystem, we had to add the flag (--notification_driver=nova.notifier.rabbit_notifier) in all

[Openstack] Any block storage folks interested in getting together?

2012-02-13 Thread John Griffith
There's been a lot of new work going on specific to Nova Volumes the past month or so. I was thinking that it's been a long time since we've had a Nova-Volume team meeting and thought I'd see if there was any interest in trying to get together next week? I'm open to suggestions regarding time

[Openstack] Jenkins moved to new server

2012-02-13 Thread James E. Blair
Hi, The server that was hosting Jenkins was getting a bit long in the tooth, so this weekend we moved Jenkins to a new one. It is now running on a cloud server with more CPU and memory so it should be a little more responsive. It was built using our puppet module[1], so we have an actual

Re: [Openstack] Any block storage folks interested in getting together?

2012-02-13 Thread Diego Parrilla
Sounds great. We will try to join the meeting. Enviado desde mi iPad El 13/02/2012, a las 19:06, John Griffith john.griff...@solidfire.com escribió: There's been a lot of new work going on specific to Nova Volumes the past month or so. I was thinking that it's been a long time since we've

Re: [Openstack] instance event subscription?

2012-02-13 Thread Monsyne Dragon
On Feb 13, 2012, at 11:50 AM, Juan Antonio García Lebrijo wrote: On 02/13/2012 06:37 PM, Andrew Bogott wrote: On 2/13/12 9:47 AM, Juan Antonio García Lebrijo wrote: Hello Andrew, as we could find in the notification system wikihttp://wiki.openstack.org/NotificationSystem, we had to add the

[Openstack] Question on i8ln?

2012-02-13 Thread Joshua Harlow
Hi all, I was just wondering if I could get clarification on something I never understood related to i8ln. In nova HACKING.rst there is a line that mentions how log messages should be using gettext for i8ln. Is it common in other companies to attempt to internationalize log messages? I've

Re: [Openstack] Question on i8ln?

2012-02-13 Thread Eric Windisch
Josh, you raise an interesting point. This also affects the ability to search on these terms. On the other hand, having log messages in a language that the user doesn't understand will require those users to seek assistance when they might otherwise be able to solve the problems themselves. It

Re: [Openstack] Question on i8ln?

2012-02-13 Thread Ronald Bradford
Hi Josh, I cannot speak about the i18n specifics in OpenStack, but let me give you an answer to the general question. I added a slide to a presentation last week that uses the graph at http://www.internetworldstats.com/top20.htm I recommend you check it out. The title of the slide is English is

Re: [Openstack] Question on i8ln?

2012-02-13 Thread Diego Parrilla Santamaría
Joshua, most of non-english speaking developers I know try to use english for class names, methods, fields, constants... English is the 'lingua franca' for code, so even developers with bad english level like me try to use english all the time... so internationalized logging messages do not make

Re: [Openstack] Question on i8ln?

2012-02-13 Thread Joshua Harlow
Sure but to contribute they have to understand python which itself is english based?? I can understand for sys-ops people that can't understand english this might be useful, but then they are running in unix which is also english based. For FE (front-end facing) sites I completely agree that,

Re: [Openstack] Question on i8ln?

2012-02-13 Thread Eric Windisch
Josh, I think the problem is that there are different levels of logging. DEBUG messages can more safely be forced to English than INFO messages, in my opinion. The compromise solution might be to i18n all logs, but provide error codes which can be looked up and are thus universal and remain

Re: [Openstack] Essex Doc Day March 6th

2012-02-13 Thread Anne Gentle
Thanks Ewan, this bug is now assigned to you: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/883218 and others are certainly welcomed to collaborate with us! Anne On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Ewan Mellor ewan.mel...@eu.citrix.com wrote: Hi Anne, I'll come and do the XenServer install

Re: [Openstack] Question on i8ln?

2012-02-13 Thread Joshua Harlow
Interesting, that is one way of doing it. Is this pretty common with other major open-source projects? Logging just seems like a different place to me, where english seems like it should be required. I am biased of course ;) On 2/13/12 1:39 PM, Eric Windisch e...@cloudscaling.com wrote:

Re: [Openstack] Question on i8ln?

2012-02-13 Thread Eric Windisch
Open source? I haven't seen it so much as with enterprise apps from shops like IBM. They're valuable as long as they're accompanied with readable text, and not just a code. I'm guessing that you're looking at this from a developer's perspective rather than a support and operations

Re: [Openstack] python-swiftclient?

2012-02-13 Thread Gabriel Hurley
I'm a big proponent of standalone clients since Horizon has to consume all of them. Big +1 there. However, there seems to be a split in the community as to what the clients should look like: * Glance and Quantum's clients are very flat things that basically just parse the JSON data returned

Re: [Openstack] Any block storage folks interested in getting together?

2012-02-13 Thread Bob Van Zant
I'm interested in joining in. I've never joined one of the calls before, where do I get more information on how to join? On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Diego Parrilla diego.parrilla.santama...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds great. We will try to join the meeting. Enviado desde mi iPad El

[Openstack] Nova string encoding

2012-02-13 Thread Andrew Bogott
I am investigating this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/931667 I've started by passing various silly usernames into '$nova-manage create user' and immediately discovered that, for the user name at least, nova presumes that commandline args are in ascii rather than in utf-8.

Re: [Openstack] Any block storage folks interested in getting together?

2012-02-13 Thread John Griffith
Hi Bob, Just pop into IRC: #openstack-meeting John On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Bob Van Zant b...@veznat.com wrote: I'm interested in joining in. I've never joined one of the calls before, where do I get more information on how to join? On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Diego Parrilla

Re: [Openstack] Question on i8ln?

2012-02-13 Thread Andrew Bogott
On 2/13/12 3:58 PM, Eric Windisch wrote: I'm guessing that you're looking at this from a developer's perspective rather than a support and operations perspective. Developers will understand English, but the operations and especially the support team may not. Having native language log

Re: [Openstack] Question on i8ln?

2012-02-13 Thread Joshua Harlow
Agreed, I do that as well. But I'm also a biased yankee, now a californian (not hippie/ster yet, haha). On 2/13/12 2:37 PM, Andrew Bogott abog...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 2/13/12 3:58 PM, Eric Windisch wrote: I'm guessing that you're looking at this from a developer's perspective rather

Re: [Openstack] Question on i8ln?

2012-02-13 Thread Eric Windisch
Error codes are also searchable, but I agree that text is even more search-aware. However, also as a Yankee, I often find search results for an error string leading me to a site in, say, Russian or Korean. This is a direct result of log messages NOT being i18n'ed. I suppose it swings both

Re: [Openstack] Nova string encoding

2012-02-13 Thread Naveed Massjouni
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Andrew Bogott abog...@wikimedia.org wrote: I am investigating this bug:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/931667 I've started by passing various silly usernames into '$nova-manage create user' and immediately discovered that, for the user name at least,

[Openstack] OpenStack Governance Elections Spring 2012

2012-02-13 Thread Stefano Maffulli
The time is once again upon us for our OpenStack Governance Elections. The OpenStack community is called to elect the Project Technical Leads and two seats of the Project Policy Board. The election committee is made of Stefano Maffulli, Lloyd Dewolf and Dave Nielsen. * February 16 – 26

Re: [Openstack] Nova string encoding

2012-02-13 Thread Andrew Bogott
On 2/13/12 5:04 PM, Naveed Massjouni wrote: Very recently, a change got in that converts all tables (except 1) to utf8 encoding, for the mysql engine. I manually tested creating servers with unicode names and with unicode metadata, and it worked fine. Make sure you are running against the

Re: [Openstack] Remove Zones code - FFE

2012-02-13 Thread Martin Paulo
Please not 'shards' Sharding as a concept is so intertwined with databases IMHO that it will serve to confuse even more. Why not 'cluster'? Martin On 13 February 2012 09:50, Chris Behrens cbehr...@codestud.com wrote: Sorry, I'm late.  Really getting down to the wire here. :) I've thrown up a

Re: [Openstack] Nova string encoding

2012-02-13 Thread Joshua Harlow
Isn't the command line interface just a setting on the terminal app you are using? At least on a mac there is a terminal-preferences-advanced which specifies which encoding to use (mine is UTF-8). Was that tried/verified? On 2/13/12 3:52 PM, Andrew Bogott abog...@wikimedia.org wrote: On

Re: [Openstack] Adding a Glance image via API without POSTing the image data?

2012-02-13 Thread Eoghan Glynn
Yep, that's pretty much exactly the implementation we were hoping might exist. If it can be built that would be phenomenal. Any thoughts on whether that might be possible before E4 closes, or will it have to wait until Folsom? I'll propose a blueprint and see if I can get it

[Openstack] NFS for nova-volume

2012-02-13 Thread Salman A Baset
Hello folks, I was wondering if anyone has tried setting up nova-volume on NFS backend without making any changes to nova-volume code? There is a Xen Storage Manager Volume driver that can support NFS, but I am looking for a non-Xen solution. http://nova.openstack.org/devref/xensmvolume.html

Re: [Openstack] Remove Zones code - FFE

2012-02-13 Thread Leandro Reox
Maybe Resource Pool can fit better Lean On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Martin Paulo martin.pa...@gmail.comwrote: Please not 'shards' Sharding as a concept is so intertwined with databases IMHO that it will serve to confuse even more. Why not 'cluster'? Martin On 13 February 2012 09:50,

Re: [Openstack] NFS for nova-volume

2012-02-13 Thread Leandro Reox
We're running our nova-volumes VG on a Netapp mapped LUN to the nova-volume server. But if youre looking for a more clean solution actually several vendors like Nexenta have their own drivers for nova-volume to use, so a volume create instruction will end up on a lun creation and mapping to the

Re: [Openstack] Remove Zones code - FFE

2012-02-13 Thread Yun Mao
agreed.. -1 on shard, +1 on cluster Yun On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Martin Paulo martin.pa...@gmail.com wrote: Please not 'shards' Sharding as a concept is so intertwined with databases IMHO that it will serve to confuse even more. Why not 'cluster'? Martin On 13 February 2012

Re: [Openstack] Nova string encoding

2012-02-13 Thread Andrew Bogott
On 2/13/12 7:00 PM, Joshua Harlow wrote: Isn't the command line interface just a setting on the terminal app you are using? I'm sorry if I wasn't clear before. What's happening is: I am using a utf8 shell (which is, I believe, normal.) Nova-manage is receiving an argument and storing it as

Re: [Openstack] Any block storage folks interested in getting together?

2012-02-13 Thread Oleg Gelbukh
Hello, We are interested in participating. Looking forward to talk to all Nova block storage developers. -- Best regards, Oleg On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 2:31 AM, John Griffith john.griff...@solidfire.comwrote: Hi Bob, Just pop into IRC: #openstack-meeting John On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 3:17

Re: [Openstack] Creating boot-from-volume capable image and volume

2012-02-13 Thread Tomoe Sugihara
Hi Anthony, I tried your exercise script and found the following: - a launched instance cannot go outside the world and failed to get the cirros image with floating ip. - I had to go inside nova-compute session to enter password for executing guestmount and fusermount with sudo. So, I

[Openstack-poc] Meeting tomorrow

2012-02-13 Thread Jonathan Bryce
I know it's slightly past the 2 pm cutoff, but would like to go ahead and meet tomorrow to discuss Quantum. Dan is interested in getting Quantum promoted to core for the Folsom release cycle and we need to review soon if we're going to make it. I updated the agenda on the wiki. Jonathan.

Re: [Openstack-qa-team] API extensions and error codes

2012-02-13 Thread Anne Gentle
Hi David - The only existing API documentation for extensions was merged in with this merge request: https://review.openstack.org/#change,2045 Unfortunately, it appears it has been left behind in subsequent merges, as it doesn't appear in the Sphinx-built homepage at http://nova.openstack.org/.

[Openstack-qa-team] Flavor list changed in Essex

2012-02-13 Thread David Kranz
In tracking down a problem with the tempest flavors test I noticed that 'nova flavor-list' returns this in Essex: ++---+---+--+--+---+-+ | ID |Name | Memory_MB | Swap | Local_GB | VCPUs | RXTX_Factor |