Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL Termination write-up

2013-11-20 Thread Stephen Gran
On 19/11/13 16:33, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Vijay Venkatachalam's message of 2013-11-19 05:48:43 -0800: Hi Sam, Eugene, Avishay, etal, Today I spent some time to create a write-up for SSL Termination not exactly design doc. Please share your comments!

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic][Ceilometer] get IPMI data for ceilometer

2013-11-20 Thread Julien Danjou
On Tue, Nov 19 2013, Devananda van der Veen wrote: If there is a fixed set of information (eg, temp, fan speed, etc) that ceilometer will want, Sure, we want everything. let's make a list of that and add a driver interface within Ironic to abstract the collection of that information from

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL Termination write-up

2013-11-20 Thread Samuel Bercovici
Hi, Evgeny has outlined the wiki for the proposed change at: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/LBaaS/SSL which is in line with what was discussed during the summit. The https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tFOrIa10lKr0xQyLVGsVfXr29NQBq2nYTvMkMJ_inbo/edit discuss in addition Certificate

Re: [openstack-dev] Propose project story wiki idea

2013-11-20 Thread Joshua Harlow
Agreed I like the idea. It reminds me of the blog the solum team is setting up. I think I asked then when they announced that blog if there was plans to make it easy for other projects to also have there own supported blog.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions

2013-11-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thomas Spatzier's message of 2013-11-19 23:35:40 -0800: Excerpts from Steve Baker's message on 19.11.2013 21:40:54: From: Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org, Date: 19.11.2013 21:43 Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] TaskFlow 0.1 integration

2013-11-20 Thread haruka tanizawa
Hi there! Thank you for your suggestion. If you have any untouched or unfinished APIs, can I help you? Taskflow is important for me from point of cancelling with using taskflow. So, let me help you to impl taskflow to API. Sincerely, Haruka Tanizawa 2013/11/20 Joshua Harlow

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder][Glance] OSLO update

2013-11-20 Thread Elena Ezhova
20.11.2013, 06:18, John Griffith john.griff...@solidfire.com: On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, 2013-11-18 at 17:24 +, Duncan Thomas wrote: Random OSLO updates with no list of what changed, what got fixed etc are unlikely to get review

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL Termination write-up

2013-11-20 Thread Samuel Bercovici
Hi Stephen, When this was discussed in the past, customer were not happy about storing their SSL certificates in the OpenStack database as plain fields as they felt that this is not secured enough. Do you say, that you are OK with storing SSL certificates in the OpenStack database? -Sam.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions

2013-11-20 Thread Steve Baker
On 11/20/2013 09:29 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Thomas Spatzier's message of 2013-11-19 23:35:40 -0800: Excerpts from Steve Baker's message on 19.11.2013 21:40:54: From: Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org, Date: 19.11.2013 21:43 Subject: Re:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL Termination write-up

2013-11-20 Thread Stephen Gran
Hi, Yes, definitely yes. It's just a bootstrap problem - you can't both have a reliable, resilient loadbalancer that can be respawned, and not store all the data necessary to respawn it. I agree there are privacy concerns, just as there are with any hoster. But if you don't trust your hoster

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL Termination write-up

2013-11-20 Thread Stephen Gran
Hi, On Wed, 2013-11-20 at 08:24 +, Samuel Bercovici wrote: Hi, Evgeny has outlined the wiki for the proposed change at: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/LBaaS/SSL which is in line with what was discussed during the summit. The

[openstack-dev] [heat][savanna][tripleo][trove] jobs for dib elements

2013-11-20 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Hi folks, it looks like all of us need to have some jobs to check, build and publish our guest images. Please, correct me if such discussion/thread is already exists. There was a short discussion on it with Trove guys and we have same thoughts on it. I’m not really sure about Heat/TripleO and

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack][Horizon] poweroff/shutdown action in horizon

2013-11-20 Thread Jaromir Coufal
Hey Gareth, I am for sake of consistency and it looks that what we want here is 'Shutting down'. There is discussion forum for similar topics, feel free to join: http://ask-openstackux.rhcloud.com. Also, for live discussions, you can join #openstack-ux

Re: [openstack-dev] Propose project story wiki idea

2013-11-20 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 20/11/13 09:33 +0400, Boris Pavlovic wrote: Hi stackers, Currently what I see is growing amount of interesting projects, that at least I would like to track. But reading all mailing lists, and reviewing all patches in all interesting projects to get high level understanding of what is

[openstack-dev] [Climate] How we agree to determine that an user has admin rights ?

2013-11-20 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Hi, When reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54539/, it appeared to me that we need to make consensus on the way to know that a request is having admin creds. Currently, for implementing policies check in Climate, I'm looking at context.roles dict, which contains the unicode string

Re: [openstack-dev] [Climate] How we agree to determine that an user has admin rights ?

2013-11-20 Thread Julien Danjou
On Wed, Nov 20 2013, Sylvain Bauza wrote: When reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54539/, it appeared to me that we need to make consensus on the way to know that a request is having admin creds. Currently, for implementing policies check in Climate, I'm looking at context.roles

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] When is a blueprint unnecessary?

2013-11-20 Thread Thierry Carrez
Russell Bryant wrote: One of the bits of feedback that came from the Nova Project Structure and Process session at the design summit was that it would be nice to skip having blueprints for smaller items. In an effort to capture this, I updated the blueprint review criteria [1] with the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Blueprint: standard specification of guest CPU topology

2013-11-20 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 11:18:24AM +0800, Wangpan wrote: Hi Daniel, Thanks for your help in advance. I have read your wiki page and it explains this issue very clearly. But I have a question about the 'technical design', you give us a prototype method as below: def

Re: [openstack-dev] RFC: Potential to increase min required libvirt version to 0.9.8 ?

2013-11-20 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 02:50:03PM +1100, Tom Fifield wrote: On 20/11/13 14:33, Robert Collins wrote: On 20 November 2013 08:02, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: Currently the Nova libvirt driver is declaring that it wants a minimum of libvirt 0.9.6. ... If there are other

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic][Ceilometer] get IPMI data for ceilometer

2013-11-20 Thread Ladislav Smola
Ok, I'll try to summarize what will be done in the near future for Undercloud monitoring. 1. There will be Central agent running on the same host(hosts once the central agent horizontal scaling is finished) as Ironic 2. It will have SNMP pollster, SNMP pollster will be able to get list of

Re: [openstack-dev] Search Project - summit follow up

2013-11-20 Thread Thierry Carrez
Dmitri Zimin(e) | StackStorm wrote: Hi Stackers, The project Search is a service providing fast full-text search for resources across OpenStack services. [...] At first glance this looks slightly scary from a security / tenant isolation perspective. Most search results would be extremely

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions

2013-11-20 Thread Thomas Spatzier
Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com wrote on 20.11.2013 09:51:34: From: Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org, Date: 20.11.2013 09:55 Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions On 11/20/2013 09:29 PM, Clint

Re: [openstack-dev] [Climate] How we agree to determine that an user has admin rights ?

2013-11-20 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Le 20/11/2013 11:18, Julien Danjou a écrit : It depends on how fine grained you want your ACL to be, Then, that's policy matter to let you know if you can trust the user or not. I'm digging into http://adam.younglogic.com/2013/11/policy-enforcement-in-openstack/,great value for knowing how

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] When is a blueprint unnecessary?

2013-11-20 Thread John Garbutt
On 20 November 2013 10:21, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Russell Bryant wrote: One of the bits of feedback that came from the Nova Project Structure and Process session at the design summit was that it would be nice to skip having blueprints for smaller items. In an effort to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] When is a blueprint unnecessary?

2013-11-20 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 11:21:14AM +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: Russell Bryant wrote: One of the bits of feedback that came from the Nova Project Structure and Process session at the design summit was that it would be nice to skip having blueprints for smaller items. In an effort to

Re: [openstack-dev] [UX] Automatically post new threads from AskBot to the list

2013-11-20 Thread Thierry Carrez
Julie Pichon wrote: Hi folks, I've been thinking about the AskBot UX website [0] and its lack of visibility, particularly for new community members. I think it would be valuable to have the first post from new conversation threads be posted to the -dev list with the appropriate [UX] tag,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Blueprint: standard specification of guest CPU topology

2013-11-20 Thread John Garbutt
On 20 November 2013 10:19, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 11:18:24AM +0800, Wangpan wrote: Hi Daniel, Thanks for your help in advance. I have read your wiki page and it explains this issue very clearly. But I have a question about the 'technical

Re: [openstack-dev] [Climate] How we agree to determine that an user has admin rights ?

2013-11-20 Thread Yuriy Taraday
Looking at implementations in Keystone and Nova, I found the only use for is_admin but it is essential. Whenever in code you need to run a piece of code with admin privileges, you can create a new context with is_admin=True keeping all other parameters as is, run code requiring admin access and

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL Termination write-up

2013-11-20 Thread Vijay Venkatachalam
Hi, Replies Inline! -Original Message- From: Stephen Gran [mailto:stephen.g...@guardian.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 2:59 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL Termination write-up

Re: [openstack-dev] [Climate] How we agree to determine that an user has admin rights ?

2013-11-20 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Hi Yuriy, Le 20/11/2013 11:56, Yuriy Taraday a écrit : Looking at implementations in Keystone and Nova, I found the only use for is_admin but it is essential. Whenever in code you need to run a piece of code with admin privileges, you can create a new context with is_admin=True keeping all

Re: [openstack-dev] Propose project story wiki idea

2013-11-20 Thread Thierry Carrez
Boris Pavlovic wrote: The idea of this proposal is that every OpenStack project should have story wiki page. It means to publish every week one short message that contains most interesting updates for the last week, and high level road map for future week. So reading this for 10-15 minutes you

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL Termination write-up

2013-11-20 Thread Vijay Venkatachalam
-Original Message- From: Stephen Gran [mailto:stephen.g...@guardian.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:01 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL Termination write-up Hi, On Wed, 2013-11-20

[openstack-dev] [Swift] Server Side Encryption

2013-11-20 Thread David Hadas
Hi all, We created a wiki page discussing the addition of software side encryption to Swift: The general scheme is to create a swift proxy middleware that will encrypt and sign the object data during PUT and check the signature + decrypt it during GET. The target is to create two domains - the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Climate] How we agree to determine that an user has admin rights ?

2013-11-20 Thread Dina Belova
I suppose it's ok - just rebase from Swann's commit to have is_admin param to use. On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Sylvain Bauza sylvain.ba...@bull.netwrote: Hi Yuriy, Le 20/11/2013 11:56, Yuriy Taraday a écrit : Looking at implementations in Keystone and Nova, I found the only use for

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder][Glance] OSLO update

2013-11-20 Thread Roman Bogorodskiy
I know it was brought up on the list a number of times, but... If we're talking about storing commit ids for each module and writing some shell scripts for that, isn't it a chance to reconsider using git submodules? On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Elena Ezhova eezh...@mirantis.com wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL Termination write-up

2013-11-20 Thread Samuel Bercovici
HI, Besides a forward looking model do you see other differences? -Sam. -Original Message- From: Vijay Venkatachalam [mailto:vijay.venkatacha...@citrix.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:22 PM To: stephen.g...@guardian.co.uk; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] - Vendor specific erros

2013-11-20 Thread Avishay Balderman
Hi We need to take into account that the tenant is well aware to the LBaaS provider (driver) that he is working with. After all when the tenant create Pool he needs to select a provider. Can you please change the bug status? https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1248423 The current status is

[openstack-dev] [Solum]: Etherpad notes for today's workshop

2013-11-20 Thread Roshan Agrawal
https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/SolumWorkshopTrack1Notes I also took a stab at documenting the minimal set of features Solum should implement for the first milestone at the etherpad page above Thanks Regards, Roshan Agrawal Direct:    512.874.1278 Mobile:  512.354.5253

Re: [openstack-dev] FOSDEM 2014 devroom CFP

2013-11-20 Thread Thierry Carrez
Only 10 days left -- and there aren't that many OpenStack talks submitted yet. If you plan to be around and you have a topic to discuss that may be interesting for a developers audience, please consider submitting a talk ! Thierry Carrez wrote: There will be a two-day Virtualisation and IaaS

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Race condition between DB layer and plugin back-end implementation

2013-11-20 Thread Isaku Yamahata
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 08:59:38AM -0800, Edgar Magana emag...@plumgrid.com wrote: Do you have in mind any implementation, any BP? We could actually work on this together, all plugins will get the benefits of a better implementation. Yes, let's work together. Here is my blueprint (it's

Re: [openstack-dev] [Climate] How we agree to determine that an user has admin rights ?

2013-11-20 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Well, I'm guessing the best way is the contrary, Swann needing to rebase from the change I proposed about policies. The latter is still as draft, committing myself to finish it by today. -Sylvain Le 20/11/2013 12:42, Dina Belova a écrit : I suppose it's ok - just rebase from Swann's commit to

[openstack-dev] [Nova] VNC issue with multi compute node with openstack havana

2013-11-20 Thread Vikash Kumar
Hi, I used devstack Multi-Node + VLANs to install openstack-havana recently. Installation was successful and i verified basic things like vm launch, ping between vm's. I have two nodes: 1. Ctrl+Compute 2. Compute The VM which gets launched on second compute node (here 2, see above)

[openstack-dev] [Diagnostic] Diagnostic API: summit follow-up

2013-11-20 Thread Oleg Gelbukh
Hi, fellow stackers, There was a conversation during 'Enhance debugability' session at the summit about Diagnostic API which allows gate to get 'state of world' of OpenStack installation. 'State of world' includes hardware- and operating system-level configurations of servers in cluster. This

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Race condition between DB layer and plugin back-end implementation

2013-11-20 Thread john casey
Hi guys, New to the discussion, so please correct if I'm off base. if I understand correctly, the controllers handle the state/race-condition in a controller specify way. So what we are talking about is a new state-flow for inside of the openstack db to describe the state of the network as

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL Termination write-up

2013-11-20 Thread Vijay Venkatachalam
Yes. The following can be added 1. Certificate Chain as you already observed 2. Backend certificates for trust, basically CA certs. These certificates will be used by loadbalancer to validate the certificate presented by the backend services. Thanks, Vijay V. -Original Message-

Re: [openstack-dev] Top Gate Bugs

2013-11-20 Thread Anita Kuno
Thanks for posting this, Joe. It really helps to create focus so we can address these bugs. We are chatting in #openstack-neutron about 1251784, 1249065, and 1251448. We are looking for someone to work on 1251784 - I had mentioned it at Monday's Neutron team meeting and am trying to shop it

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] VNC issue with multi compute node with openstack havana

2013-11-20 Thread Matt Riedemann
On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 7:49:50 AM, Vikash Kumar wrote: Hi, I used devstack Multi-Node + VLANs to install openstack-havana recently. Installation was successful and i verified basic things like vm launch, ping between vm's. I have two nodes: 1. Ctrl+Compute 2. Compute The VM

Re: [openstack-dev] [Diagnostic] Diagnostic API: summit follow-up

2013-11-20 Thread Matt Riedemann
On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 7:52:39 AM, Oleg Gelbukh wrote: Hi, fellow stackers, There was a conversation during 'Enhance debugability' session at the summit about Diagnostic API which allows gate to get 'state of world' of OpenStack installation. 'State of world' includes hardware- and

Re: [openstack-dev] RFC: Potential to increase min required libvirt version to 0.9.8 ?

2013-11-20 Thread Ralf Haferkamp
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 04:33:22PM +1300, Robert Collins wrote: On 20 November 2013 08:02, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: Currently the Nova libvirt driver is declaring that it wants a minimum of libvirt 0.9.6. ... If there are other distros I've missed which expect to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] rough draft of Heat autoscaling API

2013-11-20 Thread Christopher Armstrong
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 19/11/13 19:14, Christopher Armstrong wrote: [snip] It'd be interesting to see some examples, I think. I'll provide some examples of my proposals, with the following caveats: Excellent idea, thanks :) - I'm

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] When is a blueprint unnecessary?

2013-11-20 Thread Russell Bryant
On 11/20/2013 05:37 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 11:21:14AM +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: Russell Bryant wrote: One of the bits of feedback that came from the Nova Project Structure and Process session at the design summit was that it would be nice to skip having

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [ipv6] IPv6 meeting - Thursdays 21:00UTC - #openstack-meeting-alt

2013-11-20 Thread Collins, Sean (Contractor)
I've put up a preliminary agenda for tomorrow's meeting. Please feel free to add anything that comes to mind. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-IPv6-Subteam#Agenda_for_Nov._21_2013 -- Sean M. Collins ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Race condition between DB layer and plugin back-end implementation

2013-11-20 Thread Isaku Yamahata
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 11:22:46PM +0100, Salvatore Orlando sorla...@nicira.com wrote: For what is worth we have considered this aspect from the perspective of the Neutron plugin my team maintains (NVP) during the past release cycle. The synchronous model that most plugins with a controller

Re: [openstack-dev] How to best make User Experience a priority in every project

2013-11-20 Thread Dolph Mathews
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.orgwrote: Hi everyone, How should we proceed to make sure UX (user experience) is properly taken into account into OpenStack development ? Historically it was hard for UX sessions (especially the ones that affect multiple

Re: [openstack-dev] How to best make User Experience a priority in every project

2013-11-20 Thread Anne Gentle
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.orgwrote: Hi everyone, How should we proceed to make sure UX (user experience) is properly taken into account into OpenStack development ? Historically it was hard for UX sessions (especially the ones that affect multiple

Re: [openstack-dev] How to best make User Experience a priority in every project

2013-11-20 Thread Lorin Hochstein
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Dolph Mathews dolph.math...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.orgwrote: Hi everyone, How should we proceed to make sure UX (user experience) is properly taken into account into OpenStack development ?

Re: [openstack-dev] [Swift] Server Side Encryption

2013-11-20 Thread Gregory Holt
On Nov 20, 2013, at 5:26 AM, David Hadas dav...@il.ibm.com wrote: Hi all, We created a wiki page discussing the addition of software side encryption to Swift: The general scheme is to create a swift proxy middleware that will encrypt and sign the object data during PUT and check the

Re: [openstack-dev] Top Gate Bugs

2013-11-20 Thread Derek Higgins
On 20/11/13 14:21, Anita Kuno wrote: Thanks for posting this, Joe. It really helps to create focus so we can address these bugs. We are chatting in #openstack-neutron about 1251784, 1249065, and 1251448. We are looking for someone to work on 1251784 - I had mentioned it at Monday's

[openstack-dev] [horizon] Javascript development improvement

2013-11-20 Thread Maxime Vidori
Hi all, I know it is pretty annoying but I have to resurrect this subject. With the integration of Angularjs into Horizon we will encounter a lot of issues with javascript. I ask you to reconsider to bring back Nodejs as a development platform. I am not talking about production, we are all

[openstack-dev] OpenStack Alarms

2013-11-20 Thread Waines, Greg
I have a general question about alarming in OpenStack. Service 'ceilometer-alarm-singleton' generates 'Threshold' Alarms based on threshold crossings of the meters it is monitoring. And service 'ceilometer-alarm-notifier' listens to the RPC bus for Alarm Notification events and executes the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Does Nova really need an SQL database?

2013-11-20 Thread Soren Hansen
2013/11/18 Mike Spreitzer mspre...@us.ibm.com: There were some concerns expressed at the summit about scheduler scalability in Nova, and a little recollection of Boris' proposal to keep the needed state in memory. I also heard one guy say that he thinks Nova does not really need a general

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Does Nova really need an SQL database?

2013-11-20 Thread Chris Friesen
On 11/20/2013 10:06 AM, Soren Hansen wrote: 2013/11/18 Mike Spreitzer mspre...@us.ibm.com: There were some concerns expressed at the summit about scheduler scalability in Nova, and a little recollection of Boris' proposal to keep the needed state in memory. I also heard one guy say that he

Re: [openstack-dev] [Climate] How we agree to determine that an user has admin rights ?

2013-11-20 Thread Yuriy Taraday
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Sylvain Bauza sylvain.ba...@bull.netwrote: Yes indeed, that's something coming into my mind. Looking at Nova, I found a context_is_admin policy in policy.json allowing you to say which role is admin or not [1] and is matched in policy.py [2], which itself is

Re: [openstack-dev] How to best make User Experience a priority in every project

2013-11-20 Thread Thierry Carrez
Anne Gentle wrote: It's nigh-impossible with the UX resources there now (four core) for them to attend all the project meetings with an eye to UX. Docs are in a similar situation. We also want docs to be present in every project. Docs as a program makes sense, and to me, UX as a program makes

Re: [openstack-dev] [Climate] How we agree to determine that an user has admin rights ?

2013-11-20 Thread Dolph Mathews
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Yuriy Taraday yorik@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Sylvain Bauza sylvain.ba...@bull.netwrote: Yes indeed, that's something coming into my mind. Looking at Nova, I found a context_is_admin policy in policy.json allowing you to say which

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] TaskFlow 0.1 integration

2013-11-20 Thread Joshua Harlow
Howdy! My guess is there is very much enough work to go around and it might be useful to jump on irc to discuss where u want to help out. I have some ideas and I'm sure the cinder folks do also, did u just want to work with cinder? Glance I think also could be an interesting taskflow

Re: [openstack-dev] [Climate] How we agree to determine that an user has admin rights ?

2013-11-20 Thread Yuriy Taraday
Hello, Dolph. On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Dolph Mathews dolph.math...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Yuriy Taraday yorik@gmail.comwrote: context.is_admin should not be checked directly from code, only through policy rules. It should be set only if we need to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Race condition between DB layer and plugin back-end implementation

2013-11-20 Thread Edgar Magana
Let me take a look and circle back to you in a bit. This is a very sensitive part of the code, so we need to Handle properly any change. Thanks, Edgar On 11/20/13 5:46 AM, Isaku Yamahata isaku.yamah...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 08:59:38AM -0800, Edgar Magana emag...@plumgrid.com

Re: [openstack-dev] How to best make User Experience a priority in every project

2013-11-20 Thread Dean Troyer
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.orgwrote: However, as was apparent in the Technical Committee meeting discussion about it yesterday, most of us are not convinced that establishing and blessing a separate team is the most efficient way to give UX the attention

Re: [openstack-dev] Top Gate Bugs

2013-11-20 Thread Roman Podoliaka
Hey all, I think I found a serious bug in our usage of eventlet thread local storage. Please check out this snippet [1]. This is how we use eventlet TLS in Nova and common Oslo code [2]. This could explain how [3] actually breaks TripleO devtest story and our gates. Am I right? Or I am missing

Re: [openstack-dev] Top Gate Bugs

2013-11-20 Thread Alex Gaynor
Nope, you're totally right, corolocal.local is a class, whose instances are the actual coroutine local storage. Alex On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Roman Podoliaka rpodoly...@mirantis.comwrote: Hey all, I think I found a serious bug in our usage of eventlet thread local storage. Please

Re: [openstack-dev] Top Gate Bugs

2013-11-20 Thread Russell Bryant
On 11/20/2013 12:21 PM, Alex Gaynor wrote: Nope, you're totally right, corolocal.local is a class, whose instances are the actual coroutine local storage. But I don't think his example is what is being used. Here is an example using the openstack.common.local module, which is what nova uses

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][Tempest] Tempest API test for Neutron LBaaS

2013-11-20 Thread David Kranz
On 11/19/2013 09:40 PM, Sean Dague wrote: On 11/17/2013 09:55 PM, Eugene Nikanorov wrote: Hi folks, I'm working on major change to Neutron LBaaS API, obviously it will break existing tempest API tests for LBaaS. What would be the right process to deal with this? I guess I can't just push fixed

Re: [openstack-dev] [Climate] How we agree to determine that an user has admin rights ?

2013-11-20 Thread Dolph Mathews
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Yuriy Taraday yorik@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Dolph. On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Dolph Mathews dolph.math...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Yuriy Taraday yorik@gmail.comwrote: context.is_admin should not be checked directly

[openstack-dev] How to stage client major releases in Gerrit?

2013-11-20 Thread Mark Washenberger
Hi folks, The project python-glanceclient is getting close to needing a major release in order to finally remove some long-deprecated features, and to make some minor adjustments that are technically backwards-incompatible. Normally, our release process works great. When we cut a release (say

Re: [openstack-dev] Top Gate Bugs

2013-11-20 Thread Robert Collins
We settled on 1251920. https://review.openstack.org/57509 is the fix for that bug. Note that Oslo was fixed on Jun 28th, nova hasn't synced since then. If we were using oslo as a library we would have had the fix as soon as olso did a release. These are the references to strong_store - and thus

[openstack-dev] [Swift] Goals for Icehouse

2013-11-20 Thread John Dickinson
During the past month, Swift contributors have gathered in Austin, Hong Kong, and online to discuss projects underway. There are some major efforts underway, and I hope to lay them out and tie them together here, so that we all know what the goals for the next six months are. The biggest feature

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Continue discussing multi-region orchestration

2013-11-20 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote on 11/15/2013 05:59:06 PM: On 15/11/13 22:17, Keith Bray wrote: The way I view 2 vs. 4 is that 2 is more complicated and you don't gain any benefit of availability. If, in 2, your global heat endpoint is down, you can't update the whole stack. You

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack][qa][Tempest][Network] Test for external connectivity

2013-11-20 Thread Rochelle.Grober
For External connectivity beyond the network gateway, rather than pinging google.com, configuring the vm for an external DNS server and pinging it by IPaddress would be a good initial test of external connectivity. --Rocky From: Tomoe Sugihara [mailto:to...@midokura.com] Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] Interested in a mid-Icehouse Glance mini-summit?

2013-11-20 Thread Mark Washenberger
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Mark Washenberger mark.washenber...@markwash.net wrote: Hi folks, There's been some talk about copying Nova for a mid-cycle meetup to reorganize around our development priorities in Glance. So far, the plan is still tentative, but we're focusing on late

Re: [openstack-dev] Propose project story wiki idea

2013-11-20 Thread Rochelle.Grober
+1 I'd also love to see a tag or keyword associated with items that (affects {project x,y,z}) or (possibly affects {project x,y,z} to highlight areas in need of collaboration between teams. There is so much going on cross-project these days, that if the project team thinks the change has side

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] The three API server multi-worker process patches.

2013-11-20 Thread Carl Baldwin
Hi, sorry for the delay in response. I'm glad to look at it. Can you be more specific about the error? Maybe paste the error your seeing in paste.openstack.org? I don't find any reference to 2006. Maybe I'm missing something. Also, is the patch that you applied the most recent? With the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] A question about getting IPMI data

2013-11-20 Thread Jarrod B Johnson
pyghmi is growing SDR, SEL, FRU, and other stuff. I can add in-band so long as there is always python in there, however out-of-band does not need to be too bad. In the case of a baremetal guest, for example, gathering such data in-band would require more cooperation of the tenant image, whereas

Re: [openstack-dev] Propose project story wiki idea

2013-11-20 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/20/2013 12:33 AM, Boris Pavlovic wrote: Hi stackers, Currently what I see is growing amount of interesting projects, that at least I would like to track. But reading all mailing lists, and reviewing all patches in all interesting projects to get high level understanding of what is

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] rough draft of Heat autoscaling API

2013-11-20 Thread Zane Bitter
On 20/11/13 16:07, Christopher Armstrong wrote: On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com mailto:zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 19/11/13 19:14, Christopher Armstrong wrote: [snip] There are a number of advantages to including the whole template, rather

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] Meeting Tuesday November 19th at 19:00 UTC

2013-11-20 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph l...@princessleia.com wrote: The OpenStack Infrastructure (Infra) team is hosting our weekly meeting tomorrow, Tuesday November 19th, at 19:00 UTC in #openstack-meeting Meeting notes and minutes from our meeting yesterday available

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Does Nova really need an SQL database?

2013-11-20 Thread Mike Wilson
I agree heartily with the availability and resiliency aspect. For me, that is the biggest reason to consider a NOSQL backend. The other potential performance benefits are attractive to me also. -Mike On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Soren Hansen so...@linux2go.dk wrote: 2013/11/18 Mike

[openstack-dev] The recent gate performance and how it affects you

2013-11-20 Thread Clark Boylan
Joe Gordon has been doing great working tracking test failures and how often they affect us. Post Havana release the failure rate has increased dramatically, negatively affecting the gate and forcing it to run in a near worst case scenario. That is changes are being tested in parallel but the head

[openstack-dev] What's Up Doc? Nov 20 2013

2013-11-20 Thread Anne Gentle
1. In review and merged this past week: Wow, I see about 30 fixes backported to the Havana install guides in the last week, great work Andreas! I appreciate the focus on the install guides since the Summit, thank you. 2. High priority doc work: I'm very excited to have Lana offer to do a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][Tempest] Tempest API test for Neutron LBaaS

2013-11-20 Thread Eugene Nikanorov
Sean, David, Thanks for your reply and useful links. Neutron LBaaS API had experimental status, so i think the guidelines might be relaxed for this case, but now I just tend to workaround this and preserve API compatibility. Thanks, Eugene. On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 9:57 PM, David Kranz

[openstack-dev] [keystone][py3] Usage of httpretty

2013-11-20 Thread Chuck Short
Hi, I was wondering for the reason behind the usage httpretty in python-keystoneclient. It seems to me like a total overkill for a test. It also has some problems with python3 support that is currently blocking python3 porting as well. Regards chuck

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions

2013-11-20 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com wrote on 11/19/2013 03:40:54 PM: ... How to define and deliver this agent is the challenge. Some options are: 1) install it as part of the image customization/bootstrapping (golden images or cloud-init) 2) define a (mustache?) template in the SoftwareConfig which

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon] Javascript development improvement

2013-11-20 Thread Jordan OMara
On 20/11/13 17:01 +0100, Maxime Vidori wrote: Hi all, I know it is pretty annoying but I have to resurrect this subject. With the integration of Angularjs into Horizon we will encounter a lot of issues with javascript. I ask you to reconsider to bring back Nodejs as a development platform. I am

Re: [openstack-dev] The recent gate performance and how it affects you

2013-11-20 Thread Matt Riedemann
On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 2:44:52 PM, Clark Boylan wrote: Joe Gordon has been doing great working tracking test failures and how often they affect us. Post Havana release the failure rate has increased dramatically, negatively affecting the gate and forcing it to run in a near worst case

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions

2013-11-20 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote on 11/19/2013 04:28:31 PM: From: Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com To: openstack-dev openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org, Date: 11/19/2013 04:30 PM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions Excerpts

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack][qa][Tempest][Network] Test for external connectivity

2013-11-20 Thread Sean Dague
On 11/18/2013 02:41 AM, Yair Fried wrote: I'm editing tempest/scenario/test_network_basic_ops.py for external connectivity as the TODO listed in its docstring. the test cases are for pinging against external ip and url to test connectivity and dns respectivly. since default deployement

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone][py3] Usage of httpretty

2013-11-20 Thread Dolph Mathews
I don't have a great answer -- do any projects depend on it other than python-keystoneclient? I'm happy to see it removed -- I see the immediate benefit but it's obviously not significant relative to python 3 support. BTW, this exact issue is being tracked here-

Re: [openstack-dev] The recent gate performance and how it affects you

2013-11-20 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:44 AM, Clark Boylan clark.boy...@gmail.com wrote: How do we avoid this in the future? Step one is reviewers that are approving changes (or reverifying them) should keep an eye on the gate queue. Talking on the -infra IRC channel just now, it has become clear to me

Re: [openstack-dev] Search Project - summit follow up

2013-11-20 Thread Dolph Mathews
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Dmitri Zimin(e) | StackStorm d...@stackstorm.com wrote: Thanks Terry for highlighting this: Yes, tenant isolation is the must. It's not reflected in the prototype - it queries Solr directly; but the proper implementation will go through the query API

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions

2013-11-20 Thread Steve Baker
On 11/21/2013 10:46 AM, Mike Spreitzer wrote: Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote on 11/19/2013 04:28:31 PM: From: Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com To: openstack-dev openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org, Date: 11/19/2013 04:30 PM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration

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