Re: [openstack-dev] Reminder: Oslo project meeting

2013-07-19 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 22:11 +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote: Hi We're having an IRC meeting on Friday to sync up again on the messaging work going on: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo https://etherpad.openstack.org/HavanaOsloMessaging Feel free to add other topics

Re: [openstack-dev] [Oslo-incubator] Request for meeting

2013-07-18 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi, On Thu, 2013-07-18 at 13:15 -0500, Lance D Bragstad wrote: Hey all, Just wanted to throw a word out to see if we could get an Oslo meeting scheduled, or if anyone else has some topics that would be relevant to discuss pertaining to recent Oslo work. I have a change in Oslo that I

Re: [openstack-dev] olso-config dev requirement

2013-07-16 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 13:37 -0400, Monty Taylor wrote: On 07/16/2013 11:42 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com mailto:mar...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 14:28 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Mon, Jul

Re: [openstack-dev] [OSLO] Comments/Questions on Messaging Wiki

2013-07-16 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi William, I think Doug has done a good job of answering all these, but here's another set of answers to make sure there's no confusion :) On Fri, 2013-07-12 at 17:40 -0400, William Henry wrote: Hi all, I've been reading through the Messaging Wiki and have some comments. The docs

Re: [openstack-dev] Program Proposal: Trove

2013-07-16 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hey, On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 10:37 -0700, Michael Basnight wrote: Official Title: OpenStack Database as a Service Initial PTL: Michael Basnight mbasni...@gmail.com Mission Statement: To provide scalable and reliable Cloud Database as a Service functionality for both relational and

Re: [openstack-dev] Work around DB in OpenStack (Oslo, Nova, Cinder, Glance)

2013-07-11 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 14:14 -0600, John Griffith wrote: Given that Cinder doesn't have anybody actively engaged in this other than what's being proposed and worked on by Boris and folks, we'd be a willing candidate for most of these changes, particularly if they're accepted in Nova

Re: [openstack-dev] [Review] Use of exception for non-exceptional cases

2013-07-11 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 21:14 +0200, Thomas Hervé wrote: On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 8:32 PM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 11:01 -0700, Nachi Ueno wrote: Personally, I prefer not to use exception for such cases. The key

Re: [openstack-dev] Blueprint: Separate translation domain for log messages

2013-07-11 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2013-07-11 at 09:56 +0100, Joe Gordon wrote: On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote: Hi Daisy, On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 21:48 +0800, Ying Chun Guo wrote: Hi, Mark I think there is a blueprint we

Re: [openstack-dev] [Review] Use of exception for non-exceptional cases

2013-07-11 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 19:49 -0400, Monty Taylor wrote: I'd like top-post and hijack this thread for another exception related thing: a) Anyone writing code such as: try: blah() except SomeException: raise SomeOtherExceptionLeavingOutStackContextFromSomeException should be mocked

Re: [openstack-dev] Current biggest OpenStack gate fail culprit - neutron bug #1194026

2013-07-11 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2013-07-11 at 09:28 -0600, John Griffith wrote: On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Dan Smith d...@danplanet.com wrote: In the corner to my left, our current largest gate reset culprit appears to be neutron bug #1194026 - weighing in with 62 rechecks since June 24th

Re: [openstack-dev] [Review] Use of exception for non-exceptional cases

2013-07-10 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 11:01 -0700, Nachi Ueno wrote: HI folks I would like to ask the review criteria in the community. Should we use exception for non-exceptional cases when we can use parameter checking? Example1: Default value for array index try: value = list[5] except

Re: [openstack-dev] Draft Mission statement for tripleo

2013-07-09 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2013-07-09 at 20:21 +1200, Robert Collins wrote: On 9 July 2013 20:12, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Robert Collins wrote: I thought I would get some input on a draft statement before submitting one for the TC to vote on. We're very focused on using OpenStack

Re: [openstack-dev] Program description for Oslo

2013-07-09 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2013-07-09 at 11:21 +0100, Martyn Taylor wrote: On 09/07/13 11:11, Mark McLoughlin wrote: Hey The mission statement is what we've been using for a while. The official title is new. Official Title: OpenStack Common Libraries PTL: Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com

Re: [openstack-dev] Work around DB in OpenStack (Oslo, Nova, Cinder, Glance)

2013-07-09 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2013-07-08 at 14:15 +0200, Nikola Đipanov wrote: On 05/07/13 14:26, Boris Pavlovic wrote: Hi all, I would like to explain very high level steps of our work: 1) Sync work with DB in all projects (We have what we have, let it be in one place) 2) Refactor work with DB in one

Re: [openstack-dev] Program Proposal: refstack

2013-07-09 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hey, On Tue, 2013-07-09 at 11:01 -0400, Monty Taylor wrote: Hey all, I'd like to propose an official program to the TC - refstack, a program for verifying interoperability between implementations via FITS testing. Official Title: OpenStack Interoperability Initial PTL: Monty Taylor

Re: [openstack-dev] sqlalchemy 0.8 and Grizzly

2013-07-08 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2013-07-08 at 15:53 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: Hi, Since python-sqlalchemy 0.8.2 has been uploaded to Sid, Quantum is uninstallable there right now (see #715294). I am wondering: what's wrong with sqlalchemy = 0.8, so that it is written explicitly in the requirements that we

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.config] Config files overriding CLI: The path of most surprise.

2013-07-02 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2013-07-02 at 00:24 -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Mark McLoughlin's message of 2013-07-01 15:12:51 -0700: On Mon, 2013-07-01 at 14:52 -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: Last week I went to use oslo.config in a utility I am writing called os-collect-config[1]... While

Re: [openstack-dev] RFC: Basic definition of OpenStack Programs and first batch

2013-07-01 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hey Thierry I actually didn't notice this go by last week, the other thread got all the attention. On Wed, 2013-06-26 at 14:51 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi everyone, Yesterday at the TC meeting we agreed that as a first step to establishing programs, we should have a basic definition of

Re: [openstack-dev] RFC: Basic definition of OpenStack Programs and first batch

2013-07-01 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2013-07-01 at 18:46 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: Mark McLoughlin wrote: 'OpenStack Programs' are efforts which are essential to the completion of our mission, but which do not produce deliverables included in the common release of OpenStack 'integrated' projects every 6 months

Re: [openstack-dev] OpenStack Programs

2013-06-26 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Wed, 2013-06-26 at 14:15 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: 4. Be potentially able to define a set of projects that are the OpenStack product (markmc) Random thought on this ... If one of the release deliverables was e.g. a openstack.org/havana page which included links to the tarballs of the

Re: [openstack-dev] OpenStack Programs

2013-06-25 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hey, On Mon, 2013-06-24 at 11:50 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: The TC would bless the *mission statement* of the program rather than the specific set of projects implemented to reach that goal. This is a really nice way of putting it and you've captured a bunch of other stuff very well too.

Re: [openstack-dev] OpenStack Programs

2013-06-25 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2013-06-24 at 13:14 -0400, Monty Taylor wrote: * Where would openstack/requirements fall ? I think openstack/requirements sits under oslo - although right now it's a joint-venture between oslo and infra. If you look at the Oslo mission statement(s):

[openstack-dev] Termination of the title line of commit messages

2013-06-24 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hey, Pulling this out of gerrit for discussion. Background is one of my patches to diskimage-builder was -1ed because I terminated the title line of the commit message with a period: https://review.openstack.org/33262 This is actually the exact opposite to what I consider normal practice for

Re: [openstack-dev] Termination of the title line of commit messages

2013-06-24 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2013-06-24 at 22:50 +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote: Hey, Pulling this out of gerrit for discussion. Background is one of my patches to diskimage-builder was -1ed because I terminated the title line of the commit message with a period: https://review.openstack.org/33262

Re: [openstack-dev] Cells design issue

2013-06-21 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 09:30 -0700, Chris Behrens wrote: On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 2:14 AM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote: I don't know whether I like it yet or not, but here's how it might look: [cells] parents = parent1 children = child1, child2 [cell:parent1

Re: [openstack-dev] Defining API Success in OpenStack APIs (specifically Swift)

2013-06-20 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2013-06-20 at 07:21 -0400, Sean Dague wrote: The following patch review came into Tempest yesterday to stop checking for specific 20x codes on a number of Swift API - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33689/ The official documentation for these APIs says the following -

[openstack-dev] [RFC] Remove nova plugins framework

2013-06-19 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi We merged a plugins framework[1] into Nova[2] and oslo-incubator[3] almost a year ago and AFAICT hasn't seen use beyond the two initial wikimedia extensions[4][5] for Nova. The framework basically allows a way for a single plugin to register API extensions and notification hooks. Both of

Re: [openstack-dev] [RFC] Remove nova plugins framework

2013-06-19 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Wed, 2013-06-19 at 10:20 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: Mark McLoughlin wrote: We merged a plugins framework[1] into Nova[2] and oslo-incubator[3] almost a year ago and AFAICT hasn't seen use beyond the two initial wikimedia extensions[4][5] for Nova. I'd suggest to be a bit careful

Re: [openstack-dev] multiple message backends

2013-06-17 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi Paul On Mon, 2013-06-17 at 15:18 -0600, Paul Mathews wrote: Mark, As mentioned at the summit, we've been looking into migrating from qpid to zmq. We have gone through the process of migrating nodes from one set of controllers to another, but that brought about it's own set of

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