Re: [openstack-dev] Nominating Fei Long Wang for glance core

2013-10-04 Thread Monty Taylor
+1 On 10/03/2013 12:28 AM, Iccha Sethi wrote: Hey, I would like to nominate Fei Long Wang(flwang) for glance core. I think Fei has been an active reviewer/contributor to the glance community [1] and has always been on top of reviews. Thanks for the good work Fei! Iccha [1]

Re: [openstack-dev] Nominating Zhi Yan Liu for glance-core

2013-10-04 Thread Monty Taylor
+1 On 10/03/2013 12:25 AM, Iccha Sethi wrote: Hey, I would like to nominate Zhi Yan Liu(lzydev) for glance core. I think Zhi has been an active reviewer/contributor to the glance community [1] and has always been on top of reviews. Thanks for the good work Zhi! Iccha [1]

[openstack-dev] Requirements syncing job is live

2013-10-01 Thread Monty Taylor
Hey all! The job to automatically propose syncs from the openstack/requirements repo went live today - as I'm sure you all noticed, since pretty much everyone got a patch of at least some size. The job works the same way as the translations job - it will propose a patch any time the global repo

Re: [openstack-dev] trove is already a source package in Debian and a Python module in PyPi

2013-10-01 Thread Monty Taylor
the risks. Thank you! On 10/02/2013 12:02 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: On 10/01/2013 11:45 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 10/01/2013 10:02 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 09:45:17PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: Since I have already uploaded python-troveclient (currently waiting

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Tuskar and releases

2013-10-01 Thread Monty Taylor
On 10/01/2013 08:08 PM, Robert Collins wrote: We'd like to get tuskar projects doing releases sooner rather than later. For python-tuskarclient, this is pretty much a no-brainer : we just need to start doing it. Yup. Just do it. However, for tuskar-ui and tuskar it's more complex. #

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [scheduler] blueprint for host/hypervisor location information

2013-09-29 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/29/2013 01:02 PM, Mike Spreitzer wrote: Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote on 09/29/2013 02:21:28 AM: Host not hypervisor I think; consider nova baremetal, where hypervisor == machine that runs tftpd and makes IPMI calls, and host == place where the user workload will

[openstack-dev] [oslo] Please add oslo.version to your project watches

2013-09-28 Thread Monty Taylor
Hey all, oslo.version is in gerrit now, which is a split out of the version code from pbr. I'd love if if you'd add oslo.version to your project watches so that patches get love. oslo.sphinx could probably use the same treatment. Monty ___

Re: [openstack-dev] Gate issues - what you can do to help

2013-09-27 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/28/2013 12:08 AM, Gareth wrote: On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net mailto:s...@dague.net wrote: Right now the gate is extremely full, there are a number of reasons for that. What's more important right now is to try not to make it worse

[openstack-dev] gerrit URL queries I've been finding useful

2013-09-26 Thread Monty Taylor
Just in case these help anyone, I've make a couple of bookmarks to a couple of queries that have really been helping me deal with both my patches, and things I need to review. First of all:

Re: [openstack-dev] On the usage of pip vs. setup.py install

2013-09-24 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/24/2013 12:11 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: Hi Monty, On 09/24/2013 09:44 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: Instead of: python setup.py install Run: pip install . No way that this happens on the packaging side. Buildd have no network access (on purpose), and we must not do any network

Re: [openstack-dev] unable to run tox due to the '--pre' argument

2013-09-23 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/23/2013 12:14 AM, Zhongyue Luo wrote: Looks like this problem happens in systems that use pip1.4 but upgraded tox to 1.6.1 http://tox.readthedocs.org/en/latest/config.html#confval-install_command=ARGV Yes. We have been rolling out tox.ini changes to projects. I'll push one up for

Re: [openstack-dev] Is python setup.py intsall recommended way to install Neutron Server in dev environment?

2013-09-23 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/23/2013 01:20 PM, Vijay Venkatachalam wrote: Hi, I am new to openstack, please pardon if the questions are dumb. Attempting to run a neutron dev setup with openvswitch plugin with VLAN isolation and 2 hosts. _DISCLAIMER: _I am not using devstack.

[openstack-dev] On the usage of pip vs. setup.py install

2013-09-23 Thread Monty Taylor
tl;dr - easy_install sucks, so use pip It is common practice in python to run: python setup.py install or python setup.py develop So much so that we spend a giant amount of effort to make sure that those always work. Fortunately for us, the underlying mechanism, setuptools, can often be a pile

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: [Openstack-devel] PGP key signing party during the HK summit

2013-09-21 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/20/2013 02:33 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: Hi, Has anyone thought about having a PGP key signing party during the summit? Guys from the Linux kernel thought it was useless, but after the hack of kernel.org, they started to understand it was useful, and now they do have a web of

Re: [openstack-dev] stalled bug fixes for vmware driver

2013-09-20 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/20/2013 01:24 PM, Dan Wendlandt wrote: On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail..com mailto:joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com mailto:rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/20/2013

Re: [openstack-dev] Client and Policy

2013-09-20 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/19/2013 01:30 PM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Thu, 2013-09-19 at 15:22 -0500, Dolph Mathews wrote: On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Adam Young ayo...@redhat.com wrote: I can submit a summit proposal. I was thinking of making it more general than just the Policy piece.

Re: [openstack-dev] Client and Policy

2013-09-20 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/20/2013 02:55 PM, Ben Nemec wrote: On 2013-09-20 03:16, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 19/09/13 17:10 -0400, Adam Young wrote: On 09/19/2013 04:30 PM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: To take the specific example of the policy API, if someone actively wanted to help the process of moving it into a

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][libvirt] Should file injection work for boot from volume images?

2013-09-20 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/20/2013 02:47 PM, Michael Still wrote: Before https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46867/ if file injection of a mandatory file fails, nova just silently ignores the failure, which is clearly wrong. However, that review now can't land because its revealed another failure in the file

Re: [openstack-dev] python-simplejson 2.0.0 errors

2013-09-17 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/17/2013 08:06 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 09/17/2013 06:52 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 09/16/2013 10:41 PM, Bhuvan Arumugam wrote: It's fun out of inter dependencies. Nova depends on python-glanceclient; python-glanceclient depends on warlock=1.0.1,2. warlock depends on

Re: [OpenStack-Infra] Log storage/serving

2013-09-17 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/16/2013 07:22 PM, Joshua Hesketh wrote: So if zuul dictates where a log goes and we place the objects in swift with that path (change / patchset / pipeline / job / run) then zuul could also handle placing indexes as it should know which objects to expect. That said, if the path is

Re: [openstack-dev] When will we stop adding new Python modules to requirements

2013-09-15 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/15/2013 01:47 PM, Alex Gaynor wrote: Falcon was included as a result of Marconi moving from stackforge to being incubated. sphinxcontrib-programoutput doesn't appear to have been added at all, it's still under review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46325/ I agree with Alex and

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer][IceHouse] Ceilometer + Kibana + ElasticSearch Integration

2013-09-13 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/12/2013 07:06 PM, Nachi Ueno wrote: Hi Folks Is anyone interested in Kibana + ElasticSearch Integration with ceilometer? # Note: This discussion is not for Havana. I, for one, welcome our new ElasticSearch overlords. I have registered BP. (for IceHouse)

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Questions about plans for heat wadls moving forward

2013-09-12 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/12/2013 04:33 PM, Steve Baker wrote: On 09/13/2013 08:28 AM, Mike Asthalter wrote: Hello, Can someone please explain the plans for our 2 wadls moving forward: * wadl in original heat repo:

[openstack-dev] Cookiecutter repo for ease in making new projects

2013-09-12 Thread Monty Taylor
Hey everybody! You know how, when you want to make a new project, you basically take an existing one, like nova, copy files, and then start deleting? Nobody likes that. Recently, cookiecutter came to my attention, so we put together a cookiecutter repo for openstack projects to make creating a

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][oslo] mysql, sqlalchemy and sql_mode

2013-09-11 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/11/2013 11:09 AM, David Ripton wrote: On 09/11/2013 06:37 AM, Steven Hardy wrote: I'm investigating some issues, where data stored to a text column in mysql is silently truncated if it's too big. It appears that the default configuration of mysql, and the sessions established via

[openstack-dev] FFE Request-ish: oslo.version split

2013-09-06 Thread Monty Taylor
Hey all, One of the things we were working on this cycle was splitting the version handling code out of pbr into its own library - oslo.version. This work did not make Feature Freeze. I wanted to check in with folks to take temperature about whether it's worth attempting to get it done by the

Re: [openstack-dev] FFE Request-ish: oslo.version split

2013-09-06 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/06/2013 10:51 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Monty Taylor wrote: Hey all, One of the things we were working on this cycle was splitting the version handling code out of pbr into its own library - oslo.version. This work did not make Feature Freeze. I wanted to check in with folks to take

Re: [openstack-dev] upgrade tox - now with less slowness!

2013-09-04 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/04/2013 01:22 PM, Dolph Mathews wrote: On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com mailto:mord...@inaugust.com wrote: Hey all! https://review.openstack.org/#/c/42178/2 has landed in nova, which means that nova now requires tox 1.6 or higher

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] PEP8 public and internal interfaces for keystoneclient

2013-08-20 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/20/2013 09:26 PM, Brant Knudson wrote: We've been too lax about delineating public and internal interfaces in python-keystoneclient. This makes changes and reviews difficult because we don't know what we can change without breaking applications. For example, we thought we could

Re: [openstack-dev] proposing Alex Gaynor for core on openstack/requirements

2013-08-16 Thread Monty Taylor
+1 On 08/16/2013 11:04 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: I'd like to propose Alex Gaynor for core status on the requirements project. Alex is a core Python and PyPy developer, has strong ties throughout the wider Python community, and has been watching and reviewing requirements changes for a little

Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal oslo.db lib

2013-08-16 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/16/2013 09:52 AM, Boris Pavlovic wrote: Hi all, We (OpenStack contributors) done a really huge and great work around DB code in Grizzly and Havana to unify it, put all common parts into oslo-incubator, fix bugs, improve handling of sqla exceptions, provide unique keys, and to use

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] Replacing Glance DB code to Oslo DB code.

2013-08-16 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/16/2013 09:31 AM, Victor Sergeyev wrote: Hello All. Glance cores (Mark Washenberger, Flavio Percoco, Iccha Sethi) have some questions about Oslo DB code, and why is it so important to use it instead of custom implementation and so on. As there were a lot of questions it was really

Re: [openstack-dev] Gate breakage process - Let's fix! (related but not specific to neutron)

2013-08-16 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/16/2013 02:25 PM, Maru Newby wrote: Neutron has been in and out of the gate for the better part of the past month, and it didn't slow the pace of development one bit. Most Neutron developers kept on working as if nothing was wrong, blithely merging changes with no guarantees that they

[openstack-dev] Issues with devstack

2013-08-12 Thread Monty Taylor
Hey all! You may have noticed recently that there are issues running devstack on brand new machines - and if you have noticed that, you may have been asking: - what's the problem? - how the heck did this make it past the gate since we run devstack so often? Well - this is a fun one, and it's

Re: [openstack-dev] Osl and dangerous code merging

2013-08-08 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/08/2013 09:04 AM, Sean Dague wrote: On 08/08/2013 07:33 AM, Boris Pavlovic wrote: Hi Mark, Sounds good. Just needs someone willing to implement it. This is very interesting for us. What do you think if we create a fake project that use submodules as an example, and then just

Re: [openstack-dev] Motion to start using Gerrit for TC votes

2013-08-08 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/08/2013 09:30 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Mark McLoughlin wrote: I think what Monty might be getting at is that TC decisions would no longer happen by default with people voting at a particular TC meeting. Rather a discussion would happen on the mailing list with people casting their

Re: [openstack-dev] [DevStack] Python dependencies: PyPI vs distro packages

2013-08-08 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/05/2013 02:03 PM, Dean Troyer wrote: [Moving a discussion from https://review.openstack.org/40019 to the ML to get a wider audience] We've been around this block more than once so let's get it all documented in one place and see where to go next. Skip down to # for more

Re: [openstack-dev] [DevStack] Python dependencies: PyPI vs distro packages

2013-08-07 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/06/2013 11:39 PM, Robert Collins wrote: On 7 August 2013 14:36, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com wrote: On 08/06/2013 11:14 PM, Robert Collins wrote: On 7 August 2013 11:22, Jay Buffington m...@jaybuff.com wrote: ln -s /usr/lib64/python2.6/site-packages/libvirtmod_qemu.so

Re: [openstack-dev] Motion to start using Gerrit for TC votes

2013-08-07 Thread Monty Taylor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/07/2013 04:51 AM, Julien Danjou wrote: On Tue, Aug 06 2013, Monty Taylor wrote: This would allow for clear voting by both the TC and others - is consistent with tooling we ALL know how to use, and has the benefit of producing a clear

Re: [openstack-dev] Motion to start using Gerrit for TC votes

2013-08-07 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/07/2013 05:58 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Monty Taylor wrote: What if instead we had a repo with a bunch of ReStructureText in it - perhaps a copy of the TC charter and then a dir for additional things the TC has decided. That repo would be autopublished to a non-wiki website

Re: [openstack-dev] [DevStack] Python dependencies: PyPI vs distro packages

2013-08-07 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/07/2013 12:53 PM, Joshua Harlow wrote: I agree triple-o will help a lot here although I would disagree that package rollback is an illusion. I would call it more of a hard problem instead since nothing is really impossible :) illusion with current packaging systems yum/rpm and

[openstack-dev] Requirements updates

2013-08-07 Thread Monty Taylor
You may have just noticed a bunch of requirements updates patches. These are mostly not urgent - although once jenkins comes back +1 on them, they're safe to merge, because they will have been gated. Right now I'm testing the script that we'll use. Moving forward, patches will be proposed

Re: [openstack-dev] devstack modifying git repository

2013-08-06 Thread Monty Taylor
Hey Chmouel! Good point. I think we could add a check to see if there are any changes in the repo and skip the update if there are not. Or, we could protect that action in a variable and have devstack-gate set that variable... what do you guys think? On 08/06/2013 12:56 AM, Chmouel Boudjnah

[openstack-dev] Please release new client library releases

2013-08-06 Thread Monty Taylor
Hey all! As you know, we're been battling the effects of the setuptools/distribute re-merge and upgrade for about a month now. It's mostly settled down, but there are still cases where transitive dependencies on things that depend on things that depend on distribute can screw us. At the moment,

Re: [openstack-dev] [DevStack] Python dependencies: PyPI vs distro packages

2013-08-06 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/06/2013 02:44 PM, Mate Lakat wrote: Hi, I would say, use a separated virtual environment in devstack - without the --system-site-packages switch, of course, and set it up as a user. Install the packages that are needed in order to be able to pip install them (like libxslt-dev). It's

Re: [openstack-dev] Blueprint for Nova native image building

2013-08-06 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/06/2013 03:46 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/06/2013 12:20 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/06/2013 11:53 AM, Ian Mcleod wrote: Hello, A blueprint has been registered regarding API additions to Nova to enable the creation of base images from external OS install sources. This

Re: [openstack-dev] [DevStack] Python dependencies: PyPI vs distro packages

2013-08-06 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/06/2013 11:14 PM, Robert Collins wrote: On 7 August 2013 11:22, Jay Buffington m...@jaybuff.com wrote: ln -s /usr/lib64/python2.6/site-packages/libvirtmod_qemu.so $(VENV)/lib/python2.6/site-packages/ Why isn't libvirt-python on pypi? AFAICT, nothing is stopping us from

Re: [openstack-dev] Dropping or weakening the 'only import modules' style guideline - H302

2013-08-05 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/05/2013 11:26 PM, Robert Collins wrote: I wanted to get a temperature reading from everyone on this style guideline. My view on it is that it's a useful heuristic but shouldn't be a golden rule applied everywhere. Things like matches are designed to be used as a dsl:

[openstack-dev] [Oslo] oslo.version and pbr

2013-08-04 Thread Monty Taylor
Hey all! Currently, there is runtime version handling code in pbr. It's been a cause of concern for some folks because it means that pbr becomes a runtime rather than just a build time dependency - so the suggestion has come across that we split it out into its own library. This becomes even

[openstack-dev] New release of pbr - 0.5.21

2013-08-04 Thread Monty Taylor
Normally I don't announce pbr releases, because you should really never notice them (unless they're fixing a bug you happen to be hitting) BUT - this one fixes a long-standing request that I think should make people happy, and there are some flags that folks can take advantage of should they want.

[openstack-dev] Bad hash error

2013-08-04 Thread Monty Taylor
If you hit an error like this: Bad md5 hash for package https://pypi.python.org/packages/source/c/colorama/colorama-0.2.5.tar.gz#md5=c76f67ead9dc7c83700c57695ebb741e (from https://pypi.python.org/simple/colorama/) It means that our friends at colorama have decided to re-release something with

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] devstack + neutron fails on firewall_driver

2013-08-02 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/02/2013 01:06 PM, James Kyle wrote: Following up on my own thread, the fix can be integrated into ../stack.sh by adding this to the localrc: # FIXES: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1206013 OSLOCFG_REPO=https://github.com/openstack/oslo.config.git OSLOCFG_BRANCH=1.2.0a3

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][glance] Future of nova's image API

2013-08-02 Thread Monty Taylor
On 08/02/2013 05:23 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: Hi All, even though Glance, has been pulled out of Nova years ago, Nova still has a images API that proxies back to Glance. Since Nova is in the process of creating a new, V3, API, we know have a chance to re-evaluate this API. * Do we still

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-dev] how to make a lxc image?

2013-07-31 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/31/2013 03:36 AM, hzguanqiang wrote: Hey Guys, I want to make a lxc image for openstack applying, What should I do? Is there any documents about this? Have you looked at the TripleO program's diskimage-builder? It's right here: https://github.com/stackforge/diskimage-builder

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] how to add unmerged dependency to test-requirements

2013-07-31 Thread Monty Taylor
Hi! Not really. We don't support OpenStack projects having dependencies on unreleased software. What does fwaas come from? Is this part of neutron? On 08/01/2013 01:24 AM, Kuang-Ching Wang wrote: Hi, I am working on fwaas Horizon support, which requires fwaas CLI to work. Since fwaas CLI has

Re: [openstack-dev] Openstack Service requirement

2013-07-31 Thread Monty Taylor
Also, if you're wanting to buld services on top of OpenStack that want to respond to events - you probably want to look in to ceilometer, which has an interface to export such events to you. On 08/01/2013 01:02 AM, Addepalli Srini-B22160 wrote: RPC will send the notifications to the queues that

[openstack-dev] Grenade issues

2013-07-28 Thread Monty Taylor
Hey all! There is currently an issue with which is causing a very high failure rate in the gate. From IRC: 18:32:19 clarkb | the grenade failures seem to get very consistent in the gate at 2013-0-27 1552UTC 18:32:27 clarkb | before that the success rate is much higher 18:34:53

Re: [openstack-dev] Discussing Amazon API compatibility [Nova][Swift]

2013-07-24 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/24/2013 08:51 AM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: Hello I have seen lots of discussions on blogs and twitter heating up around Amazon API compatibility and OpenStack. This seems like a recurring topic, often raised by pundits and recently joined by members of the community. I think it's

Re: [openstack-dev] Python 3

2013-07-24 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/23/2013 03:02 PM, Brian Curtin wrote: On Jul 23, 2013, at 3:51 PM, Eric Windisch e...@cloudscaling.com mailto:e...@cloudscaling.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Logan McNaughton lo...@bacoosta.com mailto:lo...@bacoosta.com wrote: I'm sure this has been asked

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack] [cinder] Proposal for Ollie Leahy to join cinder-core

2013-07-17 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/17/2013 11:41 AM, Sean Dague wrote: On 07/17/2013 02:35 PM, John Griffith wrote: snip Just to point out a few things here, first off there is no guideline that states a company affiliation should have anything to do with the decision on voting somebody as core. I have ABSOLUTELY NO

Re: [openstack-dev] headsup - transient test failures on py26 ' cannot import name OrderedDict'

2013-07-17 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/17/2013 02:11 AM, Robert Collins wrote: Python 2.6 isn't one of the official supported Pythons for testrepository, and I managed to break that when I fixed tests on Python3.3 (which has more random dicts). So Testrepository 0.0.16 breaks on 2.6, 0.0.17 is fixed. However until the

Re: [openstack-dev] headsup - transient test failures on py26 ' cannot import name OrderedDict'

2013-07-17 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/17/2013 08:54 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: What do you mean in (b) about upstream python not supporting python 2.6? From what I understand here, it's the version of testrepository being used that doesn't support py26, not python itself or openstack. I believe he means that upstream

Re: [openstack-dev] headsup - transient test failures on py26 ' cannot import name OrderedDict'

2013-07-17 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/17/2013 07:20 AM, Joshua Harlow wrote: Well that's no fun, RedhatEL and centos need python 2.6 support so it amazes/frustrates me that 2.6 can be broke. I think we need to depend on those that are supporting 2.6 to put pressure on upstream dependencies to ensure 2.6 compat. Or

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] Proposal for Ollie Leahy to join cinder-core

2013-07-17 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/17/2013 12:44 PM, Avishay Traeger wrote: Dan Smith d...@danplanet.com wrote on 07/17/2013 09:40:02 PM: The affiliation of core team members should not come into a decision like this. It is assumed that all core team members are wearing their upstream hat and aren't there merely to

Re: [openstack-dev] olso-config dev requirement

2013-07-16 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/16/2013 11:42 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com mailto:mar...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 14:28 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com

Re: [openstack-dev] SQLAlchemy-migrate needs a new maintainer

2013-07-12 Thread Monty Taylor
) and to publish packages to PyPI on tags just like our other projects. Have fun everyone. Best regards, Boris Pavlovic On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net mailto:s...@dague.net wrote: On 07/12/2013 04:29 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Monty Taylor wrote

Re: [openstack-dev] [Review] Use of exception for non-exceptional cases

2013-07-12 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/11/2013 05:20 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 19:49 -0400, Monty Taylor wrote: I'd like top-post and hijack this thread for another exception related thing: a) Anyone writing code such as: try: blah() except SomeException: raise

Re: [openstack-dev] [Review] Use of exception for non-exceptional cases

2013-07-12 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/11/2013 05:43 AM, Thomas Hervé wrote: On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 1:49 AM, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com mailto:mord...@inaugust.com wrote: I'd like top-post and hijack this thread for another exception related thing: a) Anyone writing code such as: try

Re: [openstack-dev] [Review] Use of exception for non-exceptional cases

2013-07-12 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/11/2013 05:43 AM, Thomas Hervé wrote: On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 1:49 AM, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com mailto:mord...@inaugust.com wrote: I'd like top-post and hijack this thread for another exception related thing: a) Anyone writing code such as: try

Re: [openstack-dev] [Review] Use of exception for non-exceptional cases

2013-07-12 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/11/2013 06:22 AM, Sean Dague wrote: On 07/11/2013 05:43 AM, Thomas Hervé wrote: On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 1:49 AM, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com mailto:mord...@inaugust.com wrote: I'd like top-post and hijack this thread for another exception related thing

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] sqlite doesn't support migrations

2013-07-12 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/11/2013 01:12 PM, Dolph Mathews wrote: Just as a general statement, outside the scope of openstack, I don't think sqlite is intended to support schema evolution. From the sqlite docs [1]: SQLite supports a limited subset of ALTER TABLE. [...] It is not possible to rename a column,

Re: [openstack-dev] SQLAlchemy-migrate needs a new maintainer

2013-07-11 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/11/2013 02:40 PM, David Ripton wrote: OpenStack is currently divided. Older projects like Nova use sqlalchemy-migrate. Some newer projects like Neutron use alembic. I'd personally like to see everything in Alembic, but migrating all the Nova scripts in a way that didn't break

Re: [openstack-dev] SQLAlchemy-migrate needs a new maintainer

2013-07-11 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/11/2013 03:12 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: On 07/11/2013 02:40 PM, David Ripton wrote: OpenStack is currently divided. Older projects like Nova use sqlalchemy-migrate. Some newer projects like Neutron use alembic. I'd personally like to see everything in Alembic, but migrating all

Re: [openstack-dev] SQLAlchemy-migrate needs a new maintainer

2013-07-11 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/11/2013 08:01 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 07/12/2013 07:29 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: We've got the upstream pypi and rtfd credentials now, the project should be moved in to openstack systems soon enough. I also went through and cleaned up build and test stuff work work like our stuff

Re: [openstack-dev] The danger of capping python-*clients in core projects, and forbidding it in the future

2013-07-11 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/11/2013 11:38 PM, Gareth wrote: I heard there's a talk about this issue in #openstack-infra last night (china standard time), what's the conclusion of that? BTW, how to find meeting log of #openstack-infra? I didn't find it in http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/ We don't log it

[openstack-dev] Program Proposal: refstack

2013-07-09 Thread Monty Taylor
Hey all, I'd like to propose an official program to the TC - refstack, a program for verifying interoperability between implementations via FITS testing. Official Title: OpenStack Interoperability Initial PTL: Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com Mission Statement: Develop and maintain FITS

Re: [openstack-dev] Program Proposal: refstack

2013-07-09 Thread Monty Taylor
. On Jul 9, 2013 8:03 AM, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com mailto:mord...@inaugust.com wrote: Hey all, I'd like to propose an official program to the TC - refstack, a program for verifying interoperability between implementations via FITS testing. Official Title: OpenStack

Re: [openstack-dev] HACKING and new-style relative imports

2013-07-09 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/09/2013 10:55 AM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Kieran Spear kisp...@gmail.com mailto:kisp...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, There's a review up to make Horizon pass H304 (no relative imports): https://review.openstack.org/#/c/35664/ Old-style

Re: [openstack-dev] Openstack/Devstack + nginx + scalability

2013-07-09 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/09/2013 02:05 PM, Geronimo Orozco wrote: Hi, I am very interested in scalabity and HA with horizon is there any effort to provide nginx to devstack(for start) ? I'm not sure that devstack is going to be the best place to poke at scaling concerns or HA concerns for horizon. (the best way

[openstack-dev] Program Description for OpenStack Infrastructure

2013-07-08 Thread Monty Taylor
As per the recent TC decision around programs, the existing programs need to provide a name, acting PTL and Mission Statement. Enjoy: Official Title: OpenStack Infrastructure PTL: Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com Mission Statement: Develop and maintain the tooling and infrastructure needed

Re: [openstack-dev] [Metrics][Nova] Using Bicho database to get stats about code review

2013-07-07 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/04/2013 06:49 AM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: On 07/03/2013 06:14 PM, Jesus M. Gonzalez-Barahona wrote: Bicho [1] now has a Gerrit backend, which has been tested with OpenStack's Gerrit. We have used it to produce the MySQL database dump available at [2] ( gerrit.mysql.7z ). You can use it

[openstack-dev] heads up - upstream pip/virtualenv/setuptools upgrades may cause some hiccups

2013-07-05 Thread Monty Taylor
Hey all! A few things are happening in the world of python that are have an impact on us. The end story is good, and things are getting both simpler and better (and in a few weeks - MUCH faster for many of us) ... in the mean time, there may be some evil bunny rabbits. tl;dr - your virtualenv

Re: [openstack-dev] Work around DB in OpenStack (Oslo, Nova, Cinder, Glance)

2013-07-03 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/03/2013 07:26 AM, Johannes Erdfelt wrote: On Wed, Jul 03, 2013, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 3:50 AM, Boris Pavlovic bo...@pavlovic.me wrote: Question: Why we should put in oslo slqlalchemy-migrate monkey patches, when we are planing to switch to

Re: [openstack-dev] Work around DB in OpenStack (Oslo, Nova, Cinder, Glance)

2013-07-03 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/02/2013 10:50 AM, Boris Pavlovic wrote: ### Goal ### We should fix

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon] Removing the .mo files from Horizon git

2013-07-02 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/02/2013 01:13 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Tue, 2013-07-02 at 09:58 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: Thomas Goirand wrote: So, shouldn't the .mo files be generated at build time only, and be kept out of the Git? +1 Yep, agree too. Interestingly, last time I checked, devstack

Re: [openstack-dev] RFC: Basic definition of OpenStack Programs and first batch

2013-07-02 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/02/2013 05:46 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net mailto:robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: On 2 July 2013 21:32, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org mailto:thie...@openstack.org wrote: Thierry Carrez

Re: [openstack-dev] OpenStack Programs

2013-06-30 Thread Monty Taylor
On 06/27/2013 12:54 PM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: On 06/27/2013 05:04 PM, Anne Gentle wrote: Let's do it! (On Thierry's timetable so that we get valuable practice talking about onboarding programs.) Sounds good to me as long as we all agree that Localization/Translations are a technical

Re: [openstack-dev] Build-time unit tests failing when building glance 2013.2.b1

2013-06-29 Thread Monty Taylor
On 06/29/2013 02:14 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 06/30/2013 12:16 AM, Mark Washenberger wrote: Hi Thomas, We switched to using entrypoints for creating our binaries. Can you explain this a bit more? Unfortunately, this means you need to have the glance version installed in some sense in

Re: [openstack-dev] Build-time unit tests failing when building glance 2013.2.b1

2013-06-29 Thread Monty Taylor
On 06/29/2013 08:02 PM, John Bresnahan wrote: I believe we should fix the unittests to not shell out to glance-manage in that manner. One of the nice things about moving the code from bin/ to glance.cmd is that it's available inside of the source tree for unittests! :) What we want to do is

Re: [openstack-dev] OpenStack Programs

2013-06-25 Thread Monty Taylor
On 06/25/2013 12:42 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Anne Gentle wrote: Dare I ask, what about TryStack? Infra seems to get a ton under it but that's where I'd place it if I had to state a preference. I'd see TryStack as a separate program, with the goal of maintaining an infrastructure that

Re: [openstack-dev] OpenStack Programs

2013-06-24 Thread Monty Taylor
On 06/24/2013 05:50 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi everyone, Official OpenStack projects are those under the oversight of the Technical Committee, and contributing to one grants you ATC status (which in turn you use to elect the Technical Committee members). The list of official projects

Re: [openstack-dev] Termination of the title line of commit messages

2013-06-24 Thread Monty Taylor
On 06/24/2013 05:56 PM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Mon, 2013-06-24 at 22:50 +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote: Hey, Pulling this out of gerrit for discussion. Background is one of my patches to diskimage-builder was -1ed because I terminated the title line of the commit message with a period:

Re: [openstack-dev] Termination of the title line of commit messages

2013-06-24 Thread Monty Taylor
On 06/24/2013 06:19 PM, Sean Dague wrote: On 06/24/2013 06:15 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: On 06/24/2013 05:56 PM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Mon, 2013-06-24 at 22:50 +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote: Hey, Pulling this out of gerrit for discussion. Background is one of my patches to diskimage

Re: [openstack-dev] defaults: making OpenStack work out of the box.

2013-06-24 Thread Monty Taylor
On 05/29/2013 08:48 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 6:12 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org mailto:thie...@openstack.org wrote: Robert Collins wrote: On the other hand, we're finding a large chunk of the work we're doing is changing defaults.

Re: [openstack-dev] The future of run_tests.sh

2013-06-21 Thread Monty Taylor
/#/c/33456/) but keep run_test.sh for the time being as there are things it does that we don't have simple ways of doing yet. Since run_tests.sh will be around for a while it does make sense to move it into oslo. best, Joe On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Monty Taylor mord

Re: [openstack-dev] tags to deleted branches

2013-06-17 Thread Monty Taylor
On 06/18/2013 12:09 AM, Pádraig Brady wrote: I notice on some projects like nova and quantum (I presume with milestone proposed commits) that the 2013.2.b1 tag was created on the now removed milestone-proposed branch. Therefore `git describe` and `git log --decorate` etc. on master,

[OpenStack-Infra] Running databases in the cloud

2013-06-15 Thread Monty Taylor
Hey all! I've done a bit of investigation of cloud databases, and have put up a couple of changes to migrate databases we care about (gerrit, wiki, paste, etherpad) to be cloud databases. Basically this just comes down to passing in hostname to the puppet modules and not having puppet create the

[OpenStack-Infra] swift functional tests

2013-06-07 Thread Monty Taylor
Chmouel and I had a chat about running the swift functional tests today. As it stands now, they need a v1 swift, although chmouel is interested in running them against v2 as well. In any case, I proposed the following: Add a job that is triggered by swift commits for running functional tests.

Re: [OpenStack-Infra] Talking is the first step.

2013-04-24 Thread Monty Taylor
On 04/24/2013 11:07 AM, Brian Lamar wrote: On Apr 24, 2013, at 10:50 AM, Dan Prince dpri...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Brian Lamar brian.la...@rackspace.com So the question again becomes how can we get XenServer into the gate. Hi Lamar, I understand

Re: [OpenStack-Infra] Talking is the first step.

2013-04-24 Thread Monty Taylor
, Monty Taylor wrote: On 04/24/2013 11:07 AM, Brian Lamar wrote: On Apr 24, 2013, at 10:50 AM, Dan Prince dpri...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Brian Lamar brian.la...@rackspace.com So the question again becomes how can we get XenServer into the gate. Hi Lamar, I

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